high price, availability issues, no games…
11 years after launch, 49M people still use their PS4s, matching the PS5
Submitted 11 months ago by Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/05/the-aging-ps4-still-has-as-many-active-users-as-the-ps5
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umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
kratoz29@lemm.ee 11 months ago
And a disappointing slim model too… (I was waiting for the slim one).
applepie@kbin.social 11 months ago
as other's have said, console makes pretty good all purpose media center unless you are a high end electronic waste snob.
wirelesswire@kbin.run 11 months ago
The article states that the PS5 is responsible for significantly more gaming hours, so a large number of PS4 users are likely mainly using their device for streaming or similar. Hell, I still have my PS2 and 3 in my closet since they're my only dvd and blu ray players.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
the PS5 also has reletively low game ownership rate, so the hours on PS5 are either games given for free/part of subscription, or free to play.
makyo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No wonder either, there are strangely few games meant just for the new system, and it’s been out for several years.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have yet to buy a PS5 because there isn’t a game I want yet. Also, Sony tends to release improved consoles with lower price points and smaller footprints after a few years.
stardust@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
For some reason that doesn’t surprise me. When I got a PS4 there were like at least 10 exclusives I wanted. This gen seems it’s mostly remasters and remakes. So ignoring that Sony games come to PC now it doesn’t even meet my criteria of number of exclusives to justify picking one up.
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
If any of you guys have a PS4 lying around gathering dust, consider jailbreaking it. Depending on the firmware, it is pretty easy to do and opens up a lot of possibilities. Surely better than being neglected :)
ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What kind of possibilities?
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.
Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Best uses of a jailbroken one?
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Well, obviously piracy if you’re into that. Apart from that, using cheats for games, dumping your physical games and having a permanent copy you can use without the CD and an active license (probably possible with a digital game too I assume? not sure), applying patches like a 60fps patch for Bloodborne, emulation of PS1, PS2, PSP and a bunch of other consoles etc etc.
Running Linux if you’re that kind of person :P
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I requires an old-as-hell 9.0 firmware or below, right?
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Actually not anymore. There’s been a recent breakthrough that led to a new exploit up to 11.00 being possible now. 11.00 is from, like, late 2022 I think? Obviously not an option if your PS4 has been in regular use recently, but I lucked out and got an 11.00 console from a friend of mine who hadn’t been using the PS4 for a while.
If you’re on a newer firmware, there is no way of reverting back to 11.00, unfortunately, unless you’re up for some soldering.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 months ago
It feels weird to phrase it like this. I didn’t buy my PS4 11 years ago. I bought it 5 years ago.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I use mine to stream TV shows 🤣
scripthook@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just recently bought a PS4 for $150. So being able to play most modern games (with the exception of any new games 2025 or later) is a pretty good deal :)
timo_timboo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, I’m planning to get a PS4 or maybe PS4 Pro as well. It’s a great deal considering the large library of games, many of which can be bought physically for relatively cheap.
TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There’s only a handful of games who really need the PS5, no surprise.
tonyn@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I use both. I have the PS5 upstairs, and the PS4 down in the family room. I can remote play the PS5 from downstairs, which is nice. And the PS Portal is nice when I’m taking a sh…
Yokozuna@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Me in the corner enjoying the metal gear collection on my PS3
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
Why oh why is MGS4 the only one not on any other system? It can’t even be streamed on PS4 or 5. 😩
iagomago@feddit.it 11 months ago
iirc it’s a “fault” of the PS3 architecture which makes it practically impossible to emulate. We’ll have to see if the second part of the remastered MSG collection will eventually port it.
Pirky@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Something to keep in mind: Official support for the PS2 was only 12 years. The PS4 is now at 11 years.
It will most likely have a longer officially supported life than the PS2.Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s definitely easier to have that degree of support when you’ve got a common architecture now. There has never been a console generation before this where you had literal years of overlap with games releasing on previous and current gen, because it didn’t require much extra work to maintain additional versions.
Hell, PS4 players are still going to get the highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC for Elden Ring in a few weeks.
SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t support a company that decided to increase price instead of reducing it. Also PS games are expensive. Then there was also non available and you had to put yourself on a year long waiting list, when at then end I said “nah, I don’t need it”. It’s Sony’s own fault I don’t have a PS5 yet.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 11 months ago
To be fair on the price increase thing, this is the first time in the history of video games that the cost to produce the hardware went up over time.
lud@lemm.ee 11 months ago
And inflation is insane nowadays.
Personally I’m gonna stick with my desktop and Deck
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Yeah and don’t forget that even with the inflated price, a ps5 is cheap compared to a pc as powerful.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I really don’t regret buying my ps5, but I could totally still be on ps4 as I’m mostly playing games from the previous generation or available on it.
But at one point, there’ll be quite a few games which wouldn’t be able to run on ps4. The question is when.
I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2, so I hope one day we’ll stop focusing so much on better looking games.
deafboy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I also feel like we don’t need to have more beautiful games than Last of Us 2
Remember when FarCry was released, and people were compairing the ingame screenshots with real photos? We all thought “Man, this is it. It can’t get any better than this”.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Well I’m not against games becoming more impressive visually per se, but against the fact that because of this games are becoming way more expensive to produce and companies are now risk averse.
But yeah I might have said « this is it » in front of quite a few games 😅
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 11 months ago
I certainly did that with Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3
candid@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
GTA 6 is looking to be the first title that will need the newer hardware. That’s all I can think of off top.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Yeah probably. Cyberpunk was another example even if it came way earlier in the lifecycle.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Been horsing around in rdr2 for the last couple years here. No real need to up it
brsrklf@jlai.lu 11 months ago
I sure do. A lot of it is Beat Saber, but it is quite a lot.
I’ll get a PS5 in like, 4 years. Maybe. If I find something I absolutely need on it.
TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
PS2 and PS3 get use. PS4 had nothing that interested me. PS5, same. Maybe when something good comes out ill get a PS17
Zatore@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I have a PC for all my games except one, Bloodborne. I have a PS4 and that’s the only thing I’ve used it for.
billwashere@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a PS5 and I still do because I can’t afford $500 for the PSVR2 upgrade and I like playing Beat Saber.
over_clox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hey, if it ain’t broke…
slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is the new CFB game going to be released on PS4? I still have mine, but I’ve switched to PC gaming the last couple of years. But NCAA 25 isn’t going to be released on PC right away, and I heard GTA6 was going to be the same. Those games are probably what get me to finally upgrade to the PS5
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My buddy is a big CFB guy and was complaining he’d have to buy a new gen console to play it