Anyone got a link to the paper? I kinda want to read it
Autism
Submitted 11 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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dhtseany@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Turun@feddit.de 11 months ago
hushable@lemmy.world 11 months ago
thanks, the paper won’t be sad anymore!
Omniraptor@hexbear.net 11 months ago
I hear sci hub is a pretty cool website
Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 months ago
The DOI number is nowhere in this post so 🤷
readthemessage@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
This comment will be very sad if you don’t interact with it
mcforest@feddit.de 11 months ago
Downvoting so comment is happy
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The comment has a degradation kink.
dogsnest@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m confused, but happy.
TheDoctor@hexbear.net 11 months ago
Goddammit you got me
rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 months ago
🫂
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
Wait, other people don’t do that? Well, that explains a lot… Since a kid, I never understood how people treated their stuff so badly and trow stuff away without a second thought. I take care of my stuff for as long as I can, and almost never trow anything way. They’re like companions who walk with me in my life, and I’m never giving up on an old friend.
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 11 months ago
I’m not autistic and I feel the same way. It makes me sad to throw something away if it’s still got some use in it.
chimasterflex@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t think that’s exactly the same situation though. Your comment reads as utilitarian, is that your reasoning for it? The object personification lends to an association of empathy for the object itself
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I apologize to my things when I accidentally bang them against something.
Fungah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sometimes objects im using have like, a personality and desire? Like they won’t want to get thrown out or there’s some kind of relationship between two forks.
Its kind of subconscious - I’m only somewhat aware of it. Its weird.
Also when in recalling things Ive learned recently I’ll sometimes recall a place I’ve been to as well. This happens most frequently with code for some reason. Programs I’ve written or functions will be strongly tied to places in some way? I don’t get it.
JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thats probably just an accidental association/linking by your brain. When we learn new things our brain creates neural pathways and these become ‘memory’. If there is something that you learn and at the same time it happened to be when you moved to a new house, were on holiday at a different place or perhaps when you met a new person, your brain may go 'you learned this new thing and that place/person/smell/emotion was also there so i will ‘save this’ together as part of the same memory.
Its like playing a game from your childhood reminding you of the music you were listening to at the time you played it, or a skill you learned reminding you of that awesome dinner you grandma cooked because she was staying with your family at the time.
Hagdos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Other people also do that
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
True. Only the frequency of occurrence that is different.
shikogo@pawb.social 11 months ago
That’s part of why I love this song. Same vibes, to me.
keiichii12@ani.social 11 months ago
When I was a kid, every letter and number seemed to have a gender to me.
Male: a, c, d, e, g, h, j, l, m, n, o, p, x, z, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9 Female: b, f, i, k, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, y, 3, 7, 8 NB: 0
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
T is male. M is female and dating N.
keiichii12@ani.social 11 months ago
T is a strong, amazonian woman. t is a tomboy skater who likes competitive street boxing.
Num10ck@lemmy.world 11 months ago
back in the olden times, straight lines were masculine and curved lines were feminine.
A7thStone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same for me except my number genders are different. 1,3,5,6,9 are male and 2,4,7,8 are female. 0 is still nb. I’d have to really think about the letters since they are more nuanced. Numbers definitely have hard gender though.
keiichii12@ani.social 11 months ago
It’s one of those things I didn’t really think hard about. It’s more like, just the “feeling” I got from them XD.
Not even sure what causes it tbh
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That sounds like a very unusual form of synesthesia.
match@pawb.social 11 months ago
o uses he/they
SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 months ago
/kicks -1hp
TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 11 months ago
As a child I would hide newspapers under the couch so my mommy wouldn’t use them in the fireplace.
TheDoctor@hexbear.net 11 months ago
Oh no the poor newspapers
7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 months ago
My dad had to mow the lawn when I was away or heavily distracted because I’d cry about the dandelions and daisies being cut down lol
Still irks me to this day when I have to do it.
Binette@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
It’s the opposite for me. As a child, I had an irrational fear of dandelions. When my dad had to mown the lawn, I cheered from the window, as I could finally go outside again.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
lemme guess, this paper is probably pay walled also?
God i love modern science, it’s so much fun.
Risk@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Yes.
sci-hub.se/
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
incredible, what a fucking shitpost this is.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
I hope i don’t make the paper sad by saying this but the are kinda off.
The only real difference is for below age 24. Then its pretty much the same if not less prevalent for autists.
They point to some other factors about the types of questions that indicate that the differences are underestimated but evidently that didn’t translate in hard numbers.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think you are misreading this. The age sections at the top are just a demographic breakdown of the two groups. Note rhat all the different percentages for age sum to 100. The results are just the bottom section of your screenshot (“anthromorphic questionnaire”). Does seem to be statistically significant.
ArcticPrincess@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
The actual results are in the text. 56% personifiers among autists vs 33% among not autists, p<0.05. Self report is p=0.06.
doctordevice@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’m pretty sure the age and gender in that table is just showing the frequency of the ages in the sample, not a crosstab of age or gender with personification/anthropomorphism.
So that’s saying their autistic population skewed younger than their non-autistic population. Which isn’t unsurprising, it’s a lot easier to get a diagnosis as a child, and generally easier to get diagnosed now compared to a few decades ago. So people over 35 or so are going to just be less likely to have had the opportunity for diagnosis. The authors do address differences in gender representation between the samples but I don’t see age addresses specifically. It could just be that younger people tend to personify/anthropomorphize more, so since the sample of people with autism skewed pretty heavily towards the 16-24 group the results could instead be displaying differences by age. I don’t think they quite have the sample size to delve into age too much. I think they’d only be able to get away with doing two groups at 34 & under and 35+. That would be a good start though.
This is also a heavily self-selected population, apparently largely from social media. I’m always automatically skeptical of social media sampling.
I would’ve liked to see a little more detail about exactly which tests and assumptions they were using. The gender difference looks like they did a t-test, but it’s left to the reader to assume they ran a two-tailed t-test. They could easily have bolstered their numbers by reporting the one-tailed test.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The only real difference is for below age 24. Then its pretty much the same if not less prevalent for autists.
By 24 we learn that people find it weird and stop doing it
dumbass@leminal.space 11 months ago
We stop doing it publicly, at home we’re always complimenting our inanimate friends.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
As doctor whatshisorherface said, the first percentage is just showing participant age group, as both lists add up to 100%.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Mother fucker…
I personified numbers all the time, 8 and 9 were based off of Smithers and Burns, 4 and 7 were female 4 was more the girl next door, and 7 was more the “Good bad girl”
akakunai@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
TIL that Japanese people are all autistic.
Poik@pawb.social 11 months ago
I’ve noticed a lot of things that are considered autistic in the states specifically may be normal practice in various cultures, having worked with people in Germany, and from a large swath of Asia.
It interests me a bit, but I think the takeaway is that autism tends to manifest in a number of quirks, and the ones that don’t align with the current culture the autistic person is in are the ones that are paid attention to. That and there tends to be a bit more obsession over said quirks than in those cultures, sometimes to the detriment of the autistic person or their social life.
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m a screw and the system just keeps whacking me with a hammer.
Kayel@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I came here looking for a discussion about a link between Autism and animism (as being the oldest known spiritual practice).
I think your just talking about animism and confusing the relation
akakunai@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Oh I agree there’s probably no relation. Reading this I just found the overlap between autistic tendencies and Japanese cultural tendencies to be interesting, not indicative of anything else.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I genuinely got separation anxiety after taking my last CRT to the tip.
nikaaa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
match@pawb.social 11 months ago
I misread autism as one of the coauthors, so
lugal@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Albert “Al” Autism. Most famous scientist in his field
theneverfox@pawb.social 11 months ago
That title is amazing
SavedKriss@lemmy.world 11 months ago
MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Let me sum up the concept for you. People who are on the spectrum see the entire world around them as alive. Many often feel a connection to much of their environment. Now as to how the paper see’s that ether a positive or a negative I couldn’t say because I certainly don’t care.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 11 months ago
That generalization is not necessarily true, from personal experience, I for sure don’t think of everything as “alive”.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You can feel about it however you want but I see it the way I see it. My son who also has the tisms see’s it much the same way I do. We are all different and I know people who don’t have that connection at all who are also autistic. If you don’t have that feeling you wont get it.
exocrinous@startrek.website 11 months ago
The world of matter is an illusion created by the mind. The true reality of the world is a network of conscious agents. Everything really is alive.
Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 months ago
Gotta say this is one ASD trait that I very much don’t have and is kind of hard to relate to.
StaySquared@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Can someone explain like I’m 5?
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 11 months ago
So Brave Little Toaster’s writer probably was ASD?
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Another day, another autism I have…
Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 months ago
OK, I’ve been cured of autism
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Now I have to read the rest
olafurp@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Clickbait for autistic people
embed_me@programming.dev 11 months ago
I had to grit my teeth to restrain myself from looking this up