I read this book, Reincarnation Blues, where this society rehabs people by hugging them and reminding them of how to be a good person. Seems better than lethal injection
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Submitted 9 hours ago by titty_wizard@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 1 hour ago
I would kill so many more people.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 43 minutes ago
24th Century Social Scientist: Class, what we have here is a perfect example of humanas aggresitoris. People of this time period were so indoctrinated into death and destruction that even a mention of a hug results in a death threat.
Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
“I need a hug today.”
“Oh yeah? Prove it.”
djdarren@piefed.social 5 hours ago
After reading the news about Christa Pike, I found an article on Wikipedia listing a bunch of botched executions.
Since 2000, 5% of lethal injections have gone wrong in one way or another. That’s 17 botched injections in 26 years. That’s an unreasonably high failure rate for something that they have no intention of stopping.
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 2 minutes ago
Never heard a complaint from the guillotine. That thing can chop all day every day for weeks. The French had a go at maxing it out. Didn’t even brake a sweat.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
How don’t they have a backup method? There must be someone around with a gun? Double tap just in case, even if the chemical method seems to work.
If you must execute people, at least have the decency to do it properly.
Supercrunchy@programming.dev 55 minutes ago
IMHO the entire injection procedure is to keep it “clean” and socially accepted. Very few people would be happy to see somebody being shot in the head, but seeing somebody “falling asleep” is much more “ok”. It looks less violent even though the end result is the same. Surviving a lethal injection and waking up again in that nightmare must be horrible.
The reality is that death penalty is cruel and more costly than keeping someone in prison for life, and this doesn’t even consider the human cost of executing an innocent. It just doesn’t make sense.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
And she’s now at the hospital where they are trying to keep her alive. Like can’t they decide? Do you want her to die or not?
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
The hospital staff are obligated to keep her alive. They won’t take part in the execution by letting her die.
Most lethal injections aren’t administered by doctors because it would violate the Hippocratic oath, and in some places can get their medical license revoked.
So she’s going to bounce back and forth between the people trying to kill her and the people trying to keep her alive, because that’s how our system is designed and it doesn’t offer a better alternative to this situation…
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
I dunno. She received the full punishment. It just didn’t take.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Full sentence is death. She ain’t dead.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Can she claim she served her sentence, and they should release her?
Serinus@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
They also didn’t tell the hospital when they brought her in.
Agent641@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
How do you fuck up an execution? It’s really not that hard to kill a person. Just ask her.
Ibisalt@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I heard in a podcast that she suffers from a blood disease which could affect the lethal injection. She and her lawyers have repeatedly tried to request that the death penalty be carried out by hanging or firing squad instead, but this was rejected by the judges.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Wow wtf. So a reasonable judge could’ve prevented this but they were too focused on sanitizing the image of what they’re calling “justice”. If they hung or shot her it would look as brutal as it is. But if you make someone “sleep forever” that’s not terrible right? Or at least that is their thinking.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Non medical people making execution drugs because medical professionals took an oath to do no harm
LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
I mean… Still, it’s not hard to put something in someone that would kill them. Pretty sure you can get non medical arsenic or cyanide or something. Honestly, I’m kinda against the death penalty in general, but if it’s going to happen, they should fucking do it right. I’d much rather get shot than injected
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Seems, once again, none of you read beyond the headline. Do any of you actually know what she did to be sentenced to death? There’s no fucking way she deserves to be released.
On Jan. 12, 1995, 18-year-old Pike, her boyfriend Tadaryl Shipp, and her friend Shadolla Peterson lured Slemmer to the woods in Knoxville, Tennessee.
There, Pike and Shipp tortured Slemmer and bludgeoned her to death. Pike believed Slemmer was interested in her boyfriend, according to court documents.
“When Slemmer tried to flee, Pike sliced her stomach with the box cutter. … As Slemmer begged for her life, Pike repeatedly kicked her in the face. Pike then cut Slemmer’s throat as she begged for mercy,” the Tennessee Attorney General’s Office wrote in court documents.
After Slemmer made one final attempt to escape, Pike smashed the back of her head with a rock, they wrote. Shipp also carved a pentagram into Slemmer’s chest, and Pike later showed off a piece of Slemmer’s skull to a friend.
Fuck this woman. She doesn’t deserve freedom. Finish the sentence humanely if they’re going to do it or put her back in prison for life. But do not release this psychopath.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
No one talks about releasing her. Also, read about her backstory and tell me you are sure you wouldn’t snap after being exposed to that kind of abuse.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Given her backstory and decades in prison, I doubt her mental state has improved
rsky@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Why the fuck are you being downvoted? Do people legitimately think that she should get a reduced sentence?
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
She legitimately deserves to die in the most horrible way.
dismay3915@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Straight up medival torture
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Worse, arguably. In medieval times they wouldn’t (be able to) save them from the brink of death only to execute them when they have recovered.
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
The murder sounds like a satanic panic story. She was carrying around a piece of skull afterwards. The boy pled and got life +25 while she fought it and originally got the death by chair. Personally, while I’m morally ok with just being done with certain people, the death penalty in the US is too screwed up to keep. This one definitely was a good candidate for it and needs to not get back into society, however that works.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
They should just let her free at this point. She won.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Personal opinion. I do not agree with the death penalty. Also a personal opinion, if the death penalty is applied, it cannot be barbaric and inhuman. Personal self-awareness. If a loved one was harmed horribly,… this is why we have a jury of our peers. No person could be unbiased.
mtpender@piefed.world 8 hours ago
How TF did they screw that up TWICE?!
NathanDerWeise@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Of course the state is being withholding on details, but there’s a few things that could have happened, possibly simultaneously (Note: my source is listening to NPR):
- The injections took an awfully long time compared to normal. The medical staff performing the injections have been accused of not being properly trained/qualified. Perhaps not all of it was actually injected into the veins? Witnesses reported that she was singing after the first injection.
- The older, more reliable sources of the drug used (phenolbarbital) now refuse to sell it to Tennessee prisons. The source of the drug may have been unreliable. Perhaps it wasn’t as potent as advertised.
- The drug can apparently expire/get old, reducing the efficacy to some degree. There is no guarantee they had a fresh supply.
It’s worth noting that as of yesterday, she was reported as being on a ventilator at the hospital.
Also I just wanna add that the wrestling character in the picture is (I believe) The Undertaker. The actor is now the mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee. This is a very Tennessee post.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 hours ago
I had to look it up, Kane was the mayor of Knox county, TN, not the undertaker. (Wikipedia, Knoxville TN website)
scytale@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
The medical staff performing the injections have been accused of not being properly trained/qualified
They’re not actually medical professionals right? I think the hippocratic oath basically prevents actual doctors and medical professionals from taking that job, so it’s essentially non-medical staff performing the injections.
Elting@piefed.social 6 hours ago
I heard (also on NPR) that she has a rare vein condition which makes it incredibly difficult to administer anything by IV.
popekingjoe@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
From what I understand, she has some sort of blood disorder that can interfere with the chemicals. They were told this by her lawyers and went through with it anyway. Twice. And she survived. Both times. So yeah. That’s fun.
lemonhead2@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
she’s got two lethal doses of the drug in her body now. if she recovers it’s going to be slow and painful…
lime@feddit.nu 7 hours ago
wait til future serial killers realize you can become immune to lethal injections
lolrightythen@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Thats so fucked up. Does she walk free after this? They already handed out the punishment twice.
Lol, who am I kidding. I know how the US legal system works
KernelTale@programming.dev 5 hours ago
One would have thought that we would have some kind of automated procedure to add a lot more waiting time and re-asses the form of execution if not life sentence based on doctors, not judges, instead but I guess not.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 hours ago
Doctors don’t want to be involved with the death penalty. I goes against their whole saving lives thing.
KernelTale@programming.dev 29 minutes ago
carrylex@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Well the Guillotine never failed
nofoxtrot@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Reverend Mother Pike.
iocase@lemmy.zip 3 minutes ago
She’s the 0.1% of germs exposed to lysol