Enshittiflation

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• jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Built-in obsolescence should be illegal. It’s so wasteful

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hmm, there are some products that should have a defined “end of life”. For instance, computer networking hardware which will eventually be outdated and no longer get security updates. The trick is, the EOL date should be clearly marked on the product at the point of sale so that the buyer can make an informed decision.

    This is built-in obsolescence, but it’s better than the current situation where Cisco will sell you a firewall at full price and then decide 6 months later that they aren’t supporting that model anymore and you have to buy a new one.

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    • jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I get that. I just feel like the general EOL of 2 years also works perfectly well with 15 years for most products.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      computer networking hardware which will eventually be outdated and no longer get security updates

      I don’t think that means that the correct approach is for the manufacturer to build in obsolescence. Sometimes the security threats don’t matter to some users, so they should be allowed to accept the risk and keep using the item. Or, there could be a rule in place that if the company no longer wants to maintain something, it is required to release the source to maintain it.

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  • PixeIOrange@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In europe it is illegal. Guess what, it destroys everything nonetheless. Seems like laws apply only to workers…

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• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am never again buying a post 2010 car. I’ve driven a few modern cars, and they have truly gone to shit. STOP BEEPING.

  Why does it say keep my eyes on the road? I can only read that by taking my eyes off the road.

  2024 car window button broke before it was a year old… the car was not even commuted in. Less than 10K miles in a year. The button was used maybe a dozen times? At most. This was a >“high-quality” vehicle, the best reviewed of kind. Resets with updates, all settings lost. I have to go through menus to use radio, three menus? It beeps and dings constantly. I am enraged every time I drive it.

  I hate you so much. I wait for death

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  • EddoWagt@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My mom bought a 2024 Toyota Aygo X, and it will constantly beep at you if you go 2kph over the limit. You can turn it off by going into the menus but it’ll just turn on again on the next start

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    • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Particular annoying when it constantly gets it wrong. Like it read the traffic sign of the side street.

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would drive it directly off a cliff. That sounds like something they make you do in Hell Lite.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right to repair laws would help things so much. If you didn’t like the firmware that came with the car, you could install alternative firmware. If the dealer sold a car that was known to have some terrible components, there would be a business opportunity for a car modder who would buy factory vehicles from the dealer and replace the most trouble-prone parts, then re-sell the car with a slight mark-up.

    It used to be that when it came to high performance cars, there were groups like Alpine, AMG, Abarth, Shelby, Saleen, etc. They were often race teams, or associated with race teams. Sometimes they would buy stock cars and modify them for racing, or at least modify them for high performance. But, most of those have now been brought into the company most associated with them. Mercedes owns AMG, Alpine is part of Renault, etc. I would bet one reason that this is not as common anymore is that cars are heavily computerized, and the computers can use DRM to restrict anybody but the original manufacturer from modifying them.

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  • gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Keeping my '03 running as long as I possibly can. Does the radio work? No. Do I need the dome light to see my speed at night because the dash lights burnt out? Yes. Is the seat disintegrating more and more each day? Yep. Does it leak when it rains really hard? I do get a little spritz every now and then.

    But that fucker’s been paid off for two decades, and I can think of exactly one time when it was incapacitated due to a cracked radiator after 20 years on the road. 20 years of reliable service. It doesn’t even whine at you for not wearing your seatbelt, it’s so old. All you get is a little reminder light. It makes a bigger deal out of you leaving the headlights on.

    I REFUSE to buy the enshittified touch screen trash that passes for a car today. Give me a fuel efficient, safe vehicle with physical buttons and a basic ass stereo and I might reconsider.

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  • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My 2010 Jeep Wrangler is built out of Lego. There’s a million companies that make parts and I can customize everything on it 12 times over.

    Unfortunately, it’s less aerodynamic than a cow and you feel every bit of variance on the road, but it’s still a fun ride in every season.

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• DigDoug@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not only that, but you can’t even use price as a proxy for quality anymore. Choosing to splash out on something you want to last just means you’re going to be more disappointed when it eventually breaks.

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is what got me. I started a really well paying job so me and the wife decided to splurge on some better, name brand appliances. I’ve replaced every single one in less than 5 years. Fuck GE, fuck LG, and definitely fuck Samsung.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But you got all those sweet touchscreens and stuff right?

      I wonder if there are good brands still. Bosch? Miele?

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    • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My rule is if they’ve ever made a TV or a Cell Phone I’ll NEVER buy their appliance.

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only bosch

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  • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The boots theory is dead

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• slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • balderdash9@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why’d you cut off the qr code at the bottom?

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    WTF happened in 1971‽

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In 1974, Congress re-wrote the tax code, and baked in Trickle Down Economics, and the permanent financial landscape improved greatly for the wealthy. The rest of us were dealing with high inflation (Remember Ford’s WIN buttons - Whip Inflation Now?), gas lines caused by the OPEC oil embargo, interest rates over 20%, etc., and didn’t recognize what was happening.

      So when Reagan came along and pushed Trickle Down Economics, it was already in place, and ramping up, he was just introducing it, and selling it to the American people, and it became standard dogma for a long time.

      The result has been a decades long re-distribution of wealth to the upper incomes, at the direct detriment of the working and middle-class.

      That’s why it appears to start before Reagan - because it did.

      New York Mag: nymag.com/…/rand-study-how-high-is-inequality-us.…

      Fast Money: fastcompany.com/…/we-were-shocked-rand-study-unco…

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    • T4V0@lemmy.pt ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reagan

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      wtfhappenedin1971.com

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That can’t be accurate. The reality is way worse. The top 1% wouldn’t even be visible on the chart at that scale. What am I missing?

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That it only goes up to 2021

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      this must be of only the working class

      I’d believe that the top end of the working class has a net worth of 15 million at the start of retirement

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Rate of change in 2021 (last data point on this graph) is nearly vertical. Five years of that would put a lot of zeros at the end of that figure, which is exactly what happened.

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• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And includes ads. And needs an internet connection and only works if you agree if your data can be used “to improve their products and service”. And you need their app to control it, or it won’t work. A free app, with in app purchases. And more ads. And it has a camera and microphone for no reason which can’t be turned off. And 2 weeks after the warrenty, the fridge dies or they stop supporting the app basically bricking the device. While all you want is a damn fridge, washing machine, bike, oven, etc. which only does what it’s supposed to, longer than just 3 years.

  Back in the days you were the product if something was for free. But now at least you need to pay to have your data stolen.

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  • Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow, no AI. I would be a pleasure to have such stupid device.

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    • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh yeah, forgot about that. Friend of mine has a new commutity washing machine which has AI. Everything comes out half clean. So he uses the other one next to it, a 20 year old one which only has washing functions. It’s far superior, everything comes out clean.

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• inari@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The term is skimpflation

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  • Javi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know it as shrinkflation.

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    • inari@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s when they make products smaller for the same price. When they lower the quality of the ingredients/materials for the same price, it’s skimpflation

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• PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What a jagged pill

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• mootny@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Life is short but unfair

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• YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hope the protest non voters feel good about themselves.

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s weird, it’s almost as if every time you ignore your own voters, you lose them. And, uncannily, if you ignore them for decades, it gets worse! It’s crazy!

    70% of Ds are done supporting Israel. Hope you’re happy with Israel’s murder machine.

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    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are a bad person.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you blaming enshittification on just this current administration?

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    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Absolutely not.

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• lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not if you look outside China for your products. West Taiwan does export some quality but they’re unicorns

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  • bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It doesn’t matter where it’s produced, what matters is who designed it and for what market. Things tailored for the mass US market are usually designed to minimize the cost of manufacturing above all else. Things tailored for Europe are a little earlier in the enshittification process.

    There are tons of high quality products manufactured in China, the only difference is that the specs for those asked for high quality, while the things you associate with Chinese manufacturing are when they were asked to make trash.

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    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good point, with a caveat. The vast majority of aforementioned demand on China is terrible quality. That doesn’t mean that the only reason Chinese trash manufacture exists is because of foreign contracts. In fact, I believe very few of them were actually ‘asked to make trash’.

      I am willing to stake that nobody, not even American businessmen, paid those manufacturers to create ten thousand seller pages on Amazon and the like with randomly generated six character names.

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  • _chris@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    China’s got better shit than the US now, you just gotta look for it.

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    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PFF I didnt know the US exported anything good. I never mentioned the US.

      EU, on the other hand… There are more than two countries in the world

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• heartpunk25@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  no literally

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• garbage_world@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Actually, everything (at least everything including in CPI) is cheaper.

  In fact, during current Trump’s term median wages grew, by all measures.

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  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It appears that the CPI has also been enshittified. Only explanation.

    CPI site says you are lying. Just a head’s up, even the website has been enshittified.

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    • garbage_world@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even independent researchers say that wages grew.

      Maybe your perception has something to do with the lifestyle inflation?

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  • shiftymccool@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow! You’re a treasure trove of bad opinions…

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  • shiftymccool@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anybody can use tricky math and crow about the results. So, even though you are most likely wrong, it doesn’t matter. I couldn’t care less if every American tripled their wages under Trump because that tiny-handed, mushroom-dicked, orange pedophile rapes kids. Your achievements cease to matter once you put your dick in a kid. Your opinion ceases to matter once you defend someone who puts their dick in a kid.

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    • garbage_world@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So I can’t state objective facts that are favorable for somebody, because that somebody is a bad person?

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• popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well thank the gods for that!

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• sik0fewl@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  On the bright side, you will have to replace it in a few years.

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• DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We all suffer together!

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• heartpunk25@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yess, I am so happy for this.

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