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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    there was this german books on cooking with mushrooms, with some parts actually written by a fungi expert and they were finishing up the project and the editorial went on to the glorious idea to save money on the illustrations, and decided to go AI against the will of the author and the expertise of everyone else and go ahead on the print.

    well… they had to destroy the whole edition. who could have known?

    https://www.stern.de/kultur/buecher/warum-ein-pilz-kochbuch-nun-vom-markt-genommen-werden-musste-36100284.html

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    • e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When AI is involved in creating books, errors can occur. And if the subject is edible mushrooms, the danger can even be life‑threatening. In Hut ab! – Das Pilz‑Kochbuch from Callwey Verlag, author Martin H. Lorenz gathered recipes from renowned chefs such as Eckart Witzigmann, Franck Giovannini, Johann Lafer, and Vincent Klink. The publisher also provided exclusive photographs by Julia Schmidt, Nikolas Hagele, and Caroline Wimmer. The result is a product that would have been of genuine interest to many hobby cooks, especially in autumn. Nevertheless, the cookbook cannot be purchased for now. Besides the photos and recipes, the book also contains illustrations that have caused problems—because, apparently, artificial intelligence (AI) was at least partly involved in their creation. On the Reddit platform, users expressed confusion over the book’s images, noting that several mushroom species were depicted incorrectly. Laypeople could have confused edible mushrooms with similarly looking poisonous ones based on those illustrations. Mushroom expert speaks out The mushroom specialist involved in the production, Dennis Regul, has now publicly commented on the incident: “It concerns the book ‘Hut ab! Das Pilz‑Kochbuch’. I was involved, reviewed the content and gave feedback on errors. I received no fee, only five copies of the book. During the collaboration I discovered AI‑generated pictures and reported that they were completely unsuitable. Unfortunately, I have since found that they were still used,” he wrote on Instagram and Facebook. “I consider the AI‑generated images dangerous. I want to point this out because beginners could be led to collect the wrong mushrooms.” The publisher disputes this. According to a spokesperson, the graphics are not fully AI‑generated; they were created by in‑house illustrators and then visually harmonised with AI. The errors slipped in during that process—errors that the mushroom expert did not manage to spot in time. Although Regul provided critical feedback on some illustrations, those were corrected before publication. At Callwey, an intensive investigation is now underway to determine how the mistakes arose. The publisher has acted quickly: the book has been withdrawn from the market. Whether it will be reissued with corrected illustrations has not yet been decided; according to the spokesperson, this will not happen before 2026. AI becomes a problem for illustrators Earlier, the professional association of illustrators (Illustratoren‑Organisation, IO) had already criticised the use of AI in the industry. “When asked about the biggest future challenge, ‘Artificial Intelligence’ was by far the top answer. Moreover, reports are increasing about missing commissions, changed requests and price collapses,” the statement reads.

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      • Small_Quasar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, you’ve got to admit getting us to poison ourselves with mushrooms is a bit more subtle than Skynet’s plan.

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At this point in my life, I don’t understand why we need to continuously publish new cookbooks. Unless there are 50 million new types of mushrooms, what’s the value?

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  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I will trust AI 100% the minute any of the AI tech bros eat a mystery mushroom based purely on the output of AI content.

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    • e0qdk@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not good enough for me knowing there are Thomas Midgley Juniors out there:

      On October 30, 1924, Midgley participated in a press conference to demonstrate the apparent safety of TEL, in which he poured TEL over his hands, placed a bottle of the chemical under his nose, and inhaled its vapor for sixty seconds, declaring that he could do this every day without succumbing to any problems. […] Midgley later took a leave of absence from work after being diagnosed with lead poisoning.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

      He was the jackass who invented both leaded gasoline and CFCs and inflicted them on the world.

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      • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, but a mystery mushroom would likely have much quicker-acting effects and it would be glorious to watch a bunch of these goobers keep over or absolutely trip balls on live television.

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      • other_cat@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh that reminds me of when Patrick Moore said he’d drink roundup then absolutely refused to do that when called on it.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I guess you’re forgetting the time Elon Musk smashed his cybertruck window while demonstrating how indestructible it is?

      Or the time that guy who was told his submarine design was stupid because fibreglass is strong under tension but still took it down to the bottom of the Atlantic multiple times until it crushed him along with some idiots that must have thought it was fine because it had been down and back before?

      Didn’t some politicians drink Flint water to try to “prove” it was safe?

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      • Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A chemist who drank a gasoline additive to prove it was safe knowing it wasn’t

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    • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Humans kinda are the trippy mushrooms they ate causing them to hallucinate.

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All mushrooms are edible.
    Once at least.

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    • Zron@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Everything is edible once.

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      • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Right, but the 20 billion calories in yellow cake uranium goes straight to my thighs.

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  • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    x.com/gnostrils/status/2039561643844415724

    why’d you erase the first line of the second name

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    • TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably because it contains the r-word slur.

      Here’s the original image (mods, feel free to remove if it breaks any rules):

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can you pls just mark NSFW.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lmao jesus christ

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  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know the false one is toxic and fatal… But is it also delicious? We need to know.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Generally speaking poisonous things taste bad but not always! Add it to the data

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      • the_artic_one@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is very much not the case with mushrooms, most people who’ve accidentally eaten a deathcap (Amanita phalloides) have reported that they’re delicious. Flu agaric (Amanita muscaria) which can be detoxified by boiling it and changing the water multiple times, is pretty darn good. I think it’s better than the average grisette (the non-toxic Amanita sect. vaginatae spp.).

        Ok the other other hand, the destroying angel (Amanita ocreata) is said to taste pretty bad.

        For a non-amanita example, I’ve spit-tested the toxic Agaricus deardorffensis and I thought it tasted pretty good. That one is an odd case though since some people are unaffected by its poison and it’s possible that’s correlated with not being able to detect the unpleasant sharpie-like odor it’s said to have, but I wasn’t willing to give myself the shits for science so it remains a mystery.

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      • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s how we know! Just put it in your mouth and let us know.

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    • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The poisonous death caps and destroying Angels taste good like an edible mushroom yes. Then they liquefy your liver over 2 days.

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  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I never heard of any mushroom like the one pictured in the meme, looking so similar and even growing on the same soil/medium, It’s actually more like this:

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Penny bun (yummy):
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      Bitter bolete (extremely bitter+bad time on the toilet):
      1000138276

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      • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        1000138278

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      • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The bottom one is not toxic, just tastes bad.

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    • the_artic_one@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve occasionally seen some false chanterelles do a pretty good chanterelle impression but they’re not toxic, just bland and not well-tolerated.

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  • KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You are absolutely right! I’m sorry I misidentified the deadly mushroom before. The horrible taste and tingling sensation you described matches with the description of a poisonous mushroom 💀 instead of the delicious, edible one 🍄. What you just ate was deadly-basilocarpus also known as the death mushroom. Thankfully you can survive if you receive medical assistance in the next 30 seconds, would you like me to find the nearest hospital in BumFuck Nowhere? 🚑

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    • icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes please. Also what’s the emergency phone number that I should dial?

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  • amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AI has previously recommended people eat death caps.

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  • bss03@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AI app: Great picture! That a “fls Brown cup”; it is delicious and fatal!

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  • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You haven’t checked the gills or the spores

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  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AI is not LLM by the way.

    I’m sure that there could be a classifier ML model that classifies this more reliably than any human, when trained by the best institutes.

    There are also cancer classifiers based on images of skin that are more reliable than any human.

    But yeah, I wouldn’t ask an LLM…

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why the spore prints matter.

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  • radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    LBM (little brown mushrooms): consider it dangerous unless you really are a true expert.

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  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most edible mushrooms are easy to identify. At least I think so.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, one could argue that it is the other way around. We consider most mushrooms as feasibly edible when it is easy enough to distinguish them from non-edible ones. There are thousands of mushroom species out there that are probably edible but that are just not worth anyone’s time. And we also focus more on certain groups of mushrooms that contain a higher percentage of edible ones, like boletes (and also champignons).

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s fair. Few people dare to eat the edible Amanitas, although they’re said to be quite tasty. If the deadly species didn’t exist, they would probably be much more popular.

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    • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All mushrooms are edible. At least once.

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    • the_artic_one@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There are edible mushrooms which are really hard to ID, but you just don’t try to eat those.

      Most people don’t go after the tasty Sheathed woodtuft (Kuhernomyces mutablis) because the risk of confusing it with the deadly funeral bell (Galerina marginata) Image

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    • RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Check out the wikipedia page for destroying angels. Members of this family can look very similar to button mushrooms or puffballs when they’re in the early stages of growth.

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Only if you are a moron or totally ignorant.

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  • Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I grew up foraging mushrooms in Michigan, but ever since moving to Alberta I’ve never felt comfortable hunting mushrooms here. I need to go with someone confident who has done it their entire lives. But I did rebently learn that a different species of morel actually grows out here. I’m going to try hunting those this year.

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  • nieceandtows@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Delectable tea, or deadly poison?

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    • kalpol@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A tea so delicious, it’s heartbreaking!

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  • ekZepp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Ghostie@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sometimes I think about the trial and error that had to occur to determine which mushrooms are edible, which aren’t, and which make you trip.

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    • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a whole process for it. First, you smell it. Then rub it on skin. Then taste a tiny piece. Then swallow a tiny piece. Then you eat it.

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      • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ofc, since many mushrooms take hours or days to kill you, this process fuck-all.

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How dare you insinuate an AI app could replace Uncle Iroh?

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