Equally controversial fact:
I am not obliged by law or morality to follow what is written in your fucking book either way.
Just a few
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mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 hours ago
My version: I don’t fucking care what your dumb book says.
elbiter@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
What should be controversial is pretending a goat shepherds religious book from the bronze age should have any kind of authority in the 21st century.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I mean, if the goat shepherds have some strong moral positions, I don’t see why they’d be disqualified. Ethics isn’t something we invented in the 21st century, ffs. Bronze Age humans had as much a claim to it as anyone. Just ask Socrates or Confucius or Nezahualcóyotl.
Given the current state of the 21st century political scene, I’m not bending over to give modern day philosophers extra credit. Say what you will about Thomas Aquinas, he doesn’t appear anywhere in the Epstein flight logs. That’s more than Noam Chomsky or Steven Pinker can claim.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Didn’t Mary and Joseph live together before they were married?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It was acceptable because Mary could do sick ollies at the half pipe
lauha@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, they just had a baby in a cave together and claimed it was a virgin birth.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I feel like if they were married it would have been expected that mary wasn’t a virgin
wieson@feddit.org 1 day ago
I did a quick look, but tbh I would need to know more about ancient judaic wedding practices.
Here goes: in Gospel by Luke, when Mary gets the announcement, they are betrothed (fiancée).
In Gospel by Matthew, Joseph hears of this and wants to cancel the betrothement, but gets an explanation by an angel and “takes her in” but doesn’t sleep with her until after Jesus is born.
In Gospel by Luke, when they arrive in Bethlehem, they’re called betrothed. So I don’t know how official and extensive the “taking in” is to be seen.Anyways, look what I found in the Song of Mary:
He performs mighty deeds with his arm; he scatters those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
He brings down rulers from their thrones but lifts up the humble.
He fills the hungry with good things but sends the rich away empty.ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
That’s right and then the virgin Jesus rose from the dead in a manger and they rolled away the lamb of god
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Did God marry Mary, before he knocked her up?
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
No, but in his defense, neither did he live with her.
D_C@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Incorrect. He lives inside all of us! HE’S INSIDE OF YOU RIGHT NOW!!
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Some really unfortunate power dynamics in that relationship.
Hoimo@ani.social 19 hours ago
Society changed a lot since Biblical times. They didn’t “live together” in the same house, but these people certainly “lived together” in the same street or village before getting married. People didn’t really have a lot of “home life” like we do now, they’d be out in the fields, or cooking in front of their home. So they’d see each other’s home life and it’s more “getting a house for themselves” than a big change in privacy or contact hours.
Hapankaali@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
It isn’t accurate anyway, the Bible certainly supports living together with people while not married in certain situations, for example with (sex) slaves.
sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
Every time I hear the word bible and fact in the same sentence the church bells start ringing in my head.
altphoto@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
They usually had a communal bed back then where everyone slepped on the same family bed together… Kids, gramma, sister and her boyfriend going at it, the wife and the husband going at it.
Very biblical.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Stanzi is fucking hilarious.
SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 1 day ago
Outside the Ten Commandments (supposedly), the Bible was written entirely by fallible humans - these assholes keep forgetting that part & act like it’s 100% perfect (which we know it’s not simply by its own self-contradictions).
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It is also important to not forget about how the Bible was formed.
What we know as the Bible is a collection of books, selected by a committee during a conclave centuries ago.
Any decision made by humans in power and influence will inevitably be favoring their own goals and politics.
There are plenty of other Christian texts that were excluded, how would they have changed Christianity if they were included?
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 18 hours ago
Also an awful lot of it is about being submissive and letting people take advantage of you. At least based off what I see getting quoted all the time. Weird how it’s always people who’re trying to control you quoting it.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They left out the good shit. The Apocalypse of Peter preaching universal salvation and the Enoch books with all the cool stuff in them.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Also somehow the King James version is authoritative, after who knows how many links if translation phone games?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Excuse me but Elisha successfully cast summon shebear swarm and I posit any being able to summon and command not just a shebear but a swarm of shebears just might be infallible
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 hours ago
That’s a movie script right there.
Ava@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
The Ten Commandments, famous for being identical and consistent across varying versions of religious scripture and sections within the same!
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Thou shalt boof but not before 3 days after the sabbath
_Nico198X_@europe.pub 1 day ago
jimonthony@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
There are so many books. It is strange that this one gets so much attention.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Controversial fact: Gondor does in fact call for aid.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
We mustn’t answer the call!
feannag@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
But it’s a Good Book don’t ya know! If you just read one book it should be a Good Book.
TIN@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Unexpected Tim Minchin
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The Bible is very contradictory because it’s a collection of books written throughout millennia, usually with prophets saying A and judges and scholars saying B (and people usually following B).
And I see Stanzi is on her Madonna-styled Trinitarian rebellion, lol. I love her content, hopefully she’s not doing too many bumps!
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I can’t read
agingelderly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What does it say about women speaking again?
TunaLobster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Paul probably didn’t write that paragraph of verses. It was most likely added by someone else along the way.
To your point of people wanting to take only portions of the Bible literally and ignore others, there are TONS of things that the old testament says to do that we don’t do every day.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That sounds like a very feminine opinion
Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Christians on old testament laws:
prohibition on eating pork: god actually didn’t mean we should stop eating pork. It was an accident bro.
prohibition on vaguely sexual acts without clear translation: this is the word of god, how dare these people exist
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nah, I can see Paul saying that, I just cannot see Jesus (who was openly kissing women like men kissed men and basically publicly recognising them as equals! The horror, lol) saying that. 🤷