What is the best way to drop 50lbs in two months without spending alot and no fad diets?

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That sentence makes no sense. Figure out the amount you would need to eat and work out to MAINTAIN your desired weight and start doing that. Let it take however long it takes, then keep doing that to maintain, or tweak it to improve.

  50lb in 2 months sounds dangerous as fuck. You could stop eating and probably lose that much, fuck up your metabolism, and immediately gain it back without even eating as much as you did before.

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• ODGreen@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  1-2 lbs a week is the MAXIMUM you should be losing.

  Find a TDEE calculator (total daily energy expenditure). It’ll give you a rough idea of how many calories you need to maintain your current weight.

  Eat less than that. Weighing your food is critical or else you’re lying to yourself.

  It’s near impossible to exercise yourself out of a calorie surplus unless you already do endurance sports and if you’re looking for drastic weight loss chances are you can’t handle that much cardio right away without dying.

  All fad diets are a way to trick you into eating less than maintenance. Keto? You won’t be able to get enough calories - so you lose weight - although rarely some people manage to maintain on a keto diet. Vegan? Lose weight due to reduced fat intake and fat is calorie-dense. Intermittent fasting? Just hard to eat 3000+ calories in one meal per day.

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• fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It takes a deficit of about 3500 calories to lose 1lb. Let’s say you stop eating at all for those 60 days. Assuming you burn 2500 calories a day idle, then after 60 days you’d have burned 150,000 calories, which would lose you ~43 lbs. Also your metabolism would slow down if you stopped eating and would make you lose less.

  I don’t think it’s possible without some kind of surgery, but that violates your requirement of not spending a lot.

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• bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Chop an arm?

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• ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unless you’re a huge person to start or have massive water weight you don’t. A pound of fat is approximately 3,000 calories, so you would need an almost 3K deficit every day to drop that, and since most people eat around that much as their normal intake that’s an extreme amount that could be deemed starvation.

  Now if you happen to be huge where the normal body functioning uses well past that then maybe, but if you’re anywhere below 300 lbs that would be a crazy amount for 2 months.

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve heard it said that a healthy target is around 1 lb per week. Maybe 2 if you’re very obese, but at that point you really should be doing it under medical guidance.

    In any case, the best way I’ve heard (outside of drugs) is to get an app that helps count calories, set a realistic daily caloric target and exercise schedule, and stay on it.

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    • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Consistency is key. For many the problem is they think of it as something you need to do for a while and then go back to ’normal’ when really you should be looking for a new normal.

      Apps can help, the best one is the one you actually use honestly and routinely.

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    • tortina_original@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are there any apps you would recommend?

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• abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  50lbs is an unhealthy goal. Both for your mentality and for your body. Health recommendations put about 2lbs a week as the upper limit on weight loss without health issues. Even people who are on weight loss programs and injections are told to stick to this amount as best they can.

  As someone who lost 50lbs last year I get the urge to just “get it done” trust me. But it won’t help long term. Pick a routine, watch your calories, and stick with it. Success comes from progress, not quick fixes.

  And if you want my secret tip, you’re gonna be hungry, but when you do eat, shrink your serving sizes, and wait. If you’re eating don’t make a whole meal (ex. Two pb&js, chips, and fruit) make a serving (one sandwich, or just the fruit, or a measured serving of chips, don’t just eat out of the bag), eat that and some water, and give it time. You won’t be “full” but the hunger will go away and you can keep going.

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• BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I lost 40lbs in 7 weeks. Would not recommend. It was from chemo and radiation making so that I vomited any food, and needed a liquid food pump inserted. Your body will be wrecked at that calorie loss.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t. For most part, weight loss and diet culture is bullshit at best and deadly at worst.

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• Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nothing, it’s just a bad idea

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    1. Yes

    2. Calories in, calories out is basic thermodynamics.

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  • BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well scientifically it is exactly calories in to your metabolism vs calories burned out.

    Whether your body is absorbing those, or too depressed of a system to burn at a normal rate would be the doctor’s investigation.

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  • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What is the “calories in calories out” shit?

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    • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ignoring metabolism and focusing solely on food calories consumed and exercise calories burned.

      While calories are basic physics/chemistry/biology, they say nothing about the health of the individual. Not eating anything for a month to burn through your fat reserves isn’t going to leave you thin and trim.

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• CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  50 pounds in 8 weeks is 6 pounds per week which is well beyond a safe level of fat loss (without medical supervision and extenuating circumstances or surgery).

  You’ll be left with a lot of flappy skin too.

  “Not spending a lot” wouldn’t be worrying about that, you’re not going to be eating.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Severe illness or a gulag.

  50 lb over 8 weeks is pretty insane. 1 lb/week is pretty good. 2 a week is pushing it.

  50 isn’t going to happen without consequences.

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You could cut off your legs but I wouldn’t recommend it.

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• ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You don’t. If you’re serious about weight loss you need to commit long term.

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• Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you stop eating entirely for 2 months you might just barely make it.

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  • Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    What is Alone? A tv show or somethiing?

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Turns out, there are people who practice that sort of extreme fasting. BTW going back to normal eating doesn’t happen in a day.

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    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m aware of one case where a man lost a ton of weight by fasting for several months and maybe taking some supplements but that was done under medical supervision. It can definitely be done but it’s dangerous.

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• radix@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I did a pretty extreme weight loss a few years back, and in two months, I lost 20 pounds.

  Even that was a bit more than is recommended without strict medical supervision. Two pounds per week is kind of the upper bound of “normal” weight loss. Don’t attempt more without a very, very good reason, and an even better doctor.

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• fubarx@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Outside of necessary amputations or liposuction, there’s no healthy way to do that. Especially in a way that’s sustainable.

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• Zier@fedia.io ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Losing that much weight in that amount of time means you have a critical medical condition.
  However in two months you can easily learn better, healthy nutrition and become more active, even have a lightweight exercise program. This will serve you better in the long run.
  There is never an easy way to become more healthy in a short term, except death.

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  • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Death, the ultimate health program.

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ask for cremation for the fastest weight loss.

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• ace_garp@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Intermittent fasting, only eat from 10am-6pm.

  Early morning exercise, 1hr of walking or cycling. Start 5am or 6am. Medium intensity.

  Generally healthy meals. No calorie blowout days.

  Plenty of water, minimal fizzy drinks. Soda water is OK.

  For added benefit, afternoon HIIT.

  Worked for me.

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• harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A tapeworm infection.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This would kill you.

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• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Napkin math: There are roughly 3,500 calories in 1 lb of fat. To lose 50lbs of fat, that’s 175000 calories.

  Let’s get an upper bound of 31 days per month, for 2 months, that’s 62 days. 175000 / 62 approximately 2822.5 calorie deficit per day required. The actual number would be higher.

  The other aspect of this is that, generally speaking, the majority of “quick” weight loss is pretty much always in the form of water loss. Water weighs around 8lbs a gallon. So, you’d need to drop about 6 gallons of water to achieve that kind of weight loss.

  Neither of these are safe, reasonable, or practical in that time frame, for the average person without medical supervision and/or other professionals supporting you.

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• SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I had weight loss surgery ~2yrs ago. Started out at ~335lbs and have lost ~100lbs. Most of that was lost slowly over the course of the first year after the surgery.

  So, even with weight loss surgery you are unlikely to loose 50lbs in two months. Unless you are starting at a very very high inital weight.

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• JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s technically possible by water fasting for 2 months, but that is pretty dangerous for so long and you would need a strict vitamin and salt intake to even have a chance of doing it safely.

  Definitely not a good idea, certainly not without doctor supervision.

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• YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You lose about a pound a day water fasting, but its hard mentally and physically. As in if you’ve never fasted before, its gonna be hard to keep going the first 24hrs. If you’re obese you have a good chance to come out just fine. You can look up the electrolytes y o u need to do an extended water fast. You should be getting checked out by a doc frequently while doing it. Things can go bad really quickly. Read, read, read everything you can before doing this.

  A Protein Sparing Modified Fast(PSMF) is where you eat about 600 to 800 calories a day with about 120 to 150g of protein (chicken breast) with leafy greens( broccoli, spinach, kale) the veg is so low calorie it doesnt really matter the amount as long as its at least a cup( you need the vitamins, minerals, and fiber). the protein so filling you basically are gonna be “full”. you wont be satisfied, but you will be able to eat and never be looking for more. the point is to have enough protein intake to keep your muscle loss to a minimum. You have to do a basic weight training or calisthenics regimen to keep the muscle loss down.

  • Take a multivitamin
  • if your having trouble shitting, more veg
  • lightheaded: pinch of salt in a glass of water, broth, or buy what is called lite salt here( its a mix of sodium and potassium salt; you need both types anyway)

  Go to your doc and tell them your plan. They will take blood exams, probably EKG, and check ins every 2 or 3 weeks to make sure everything is OK. I’ve done PSMF because my sleep apnea was literally killing me. I lost 25 lbs the first month and 20 the next. It sucked, but it fixed my apnea and all my cardiovascular and metabolic problems. I then gradually raised my calories to 1800 and kept losing weight until I got to a normal weight.

  You will have loose skin, lift weights and fill out with muscle to help with it. If something feels off, wrong, hurts, etc. Stop and go get checked out.

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  • killabeezio@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is about the only right answer here. I am currently doing something very similar to this, but with some days where I eat more. But even going to this extreme, you probably won’t be losing 50lbs in 2 months.

    I am also exercising. Zone 2 walking and weight lifting to maintain and build muscle.

    You could try a 3 day fast as well. A full 72 hours. Only water, coffee, or tea. No cream. No sugar. No nothing. See how well you can get through that.

    Even with my modified diet, it can be very difficult at times. I am also being monitored by a doctor where I check in every 2 weeks or reach out if I have issues with anything. So, I am being heavily monitored right and would not recommend this method without a doctor present.

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• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Meth is cheap

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  • seathru@quokk.au ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or for a legal option, you can walk in to most weight loss clinics and they’ll give you all the robin eggs (phentermine) you want. They’re also great for long road trips.

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    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean sure, but think of all the hardworking meth dealers who could use that money. Have some empathy

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• ulterno@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Pick up a 1lb bottle of water and drop it once a day, every day, for 50 days.
  You might be able to take a few days off, since you have more time remaining.

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• eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Daily exercise counts a lot too. Get a heart rate monitor and get into zone 2 for 150 minutes a week, it’s hard to describe how much of a difference it makes through your entire body.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Daily exercise only counts if it’s cardio and not muscle building. Otherwise the fat gets converted to muscle, which weighs more than fat.

    Of course, weight loss shouldn’t ever be considered the end goal, and building muscle and having your weight go up/stay the same is perfectly fine to become healthier.

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    • fujiwood@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Daily exercise only counts if it’s cardio and not muscle building. Otherwise the fat gets converted to muscle, which weighs more than fat.

      That’s entirely wrong because there’s no way you can gain muscle mass as fast as you can lose fat.

      A person can easily lose a pound of fat a weak and will have a difficult time, unless on PEDs, to gain a pound of muscle mass in the same time.

      menshealth.com/…/how-much-muscle-gain-per-month/

      So yes, muscle building aka hypertrophy via lifting weights will absolutely make you lose fat. In fact the heavier you lift the more fat your body will use in order to do work. Which will make you lose weight even faster.

      www.menshealth.com/uk/…/hypertrophy/

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    • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is so wrong it hurts. Your body cannot synthesize muscle from fat.

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  • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Working out has a lot of positive health benefits but it plays just a tiny role in weight loss. It’s virtually all about diet.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Yep. You can’t outrun your fork.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can’t speak for anyone else, but physical activity acts as a mild appetite suppressant for me. So it reduces calories in while increasing calories out, with the former being more significant for weight loss.

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• betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A casual stroll through your local anti-personnel minefield should do it. Bring tourniquets.

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• Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Amputate a leg?

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