DDG has the ai summary too
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BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 13 hours ago
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 54 minutes ago
lite.duckduckgo.com is my default search engine. I have other more specific searches for stuff like Wikipedia and sepiasearch, and I use duckduckgo regular for shopping.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Its easy to disabled. Also, check noai.duckduckgo.com
festnt@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
yeah idk what theyre talking about
idogoodjob@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
DDG at least has a setting to disable it and I believe a separate URL if you don’t wanna use an account or cookies to save the setting
wander1236@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Google’s been getting worse, but it’s not like Bing has been getting better. Maybe it’s just the way I search for things, but I can never get Bing to work.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The problem is you have so many SEO slip makers gaming the algorithm that no one can keep up.
And most of the decent content is gated behind walled gardens now.
CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
I use DDG, which works for about 90% of my searches, but when it doesn’t work, I go back to Google, often in a private window. I do agree that Google is still just, I dunno, better?
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Just use the !s bang in your ddg search. It forwards your search to startpage, a google proxy. Same results but more protection.
Damage@feddit.it 11 hours ago
When I used DDG, the !g bang to search on Google became wired in my brain to “get me better results, please”, so much that I sometimes tried using it in Google search too.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Idk what I’m doing wrong, but any time I can’t find something in DDG and turn to Google, I get exact same results.
Exceptions are:
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localized search (obviously), however I don’t use that in Google either and just do ‘searchterm cityname’ or use the local map service instead.
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searching on Reddit: Google has an agreement with Reddit for vacuuming all new content immediately.
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looking for a meme image by its description or caption. This definitely works in Google and pretty much doesn’t in Bing/DDG.
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DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Looking over their Wikipedia page, DDG looks like they’re reasonably independent.
Why is everyone saying they’re just Bing?
rtxn@lemmy.world 1 day ago
DDG gets its results from other search engines. Bing is one of them.
There was also a big thing about DDG allegedly selling user data to Microsoft, which the 4chan primates probably interpreted as DDG being a different front-end to Bing.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
I have heard about them selling search data to bing. While concerning, I don’t think that’s quite the same thing. I get how 4Chan could blow that out of proportion.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 hours ago
It wasn’t exactly selling, but it also wasn’t alleged. They made an exception for Microsoft’s tracking scripts in their tracking script blocking settings on their phone apps and extensions in exchange for utilizing bing as a backend. Here is the blog post where they walked it back after backlash.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
There are really only two usable search engines actually indexing the entire Internet: Google and Bing. Yandex also does but I’ve never seen it recommended for anything other than Russian language content (the company itself seems to be falling down a mineshaft at the moment). Baidu also does some although every Chinese exchange student I talked to about it (admittedly not many) advised only using it when Google is blocked. Every other engine is just wrapping Google or Bing (yes that includes Yahoo and DDG)
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
Can you link any sources on this?
I think that’s my big hesitance to believe it, there just doesn’t seem evidence (besides other commenter mentioning an anecdotal tank man reference).
Unleaded8163@fedia.io 1 day ago
My understanding is that they outsource the search part to bing's search back-end. Saying DDG is just Bing is like saying two butchers are the same because they get their meat from the same supplier.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
I can’t find any sources to corroborate this claim. Can you link some sources?
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
With all due respect, I don’t enough enough about butchering but it sounds far less complicated than what we’re talking about
excess0680@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Nobody else has mentioned this but there have been several times that Bing censored something and it propagated to DDG, most notably when Microsoft censored Tank Man (intended for China, probably) but then Tank Man also was censored on DDG.
Partly because of these incidents, I could never consider DDG reliable.
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
The whole tank man stuff is fucking stupid
timestatic@feddit.org 12 hours ago
Thats honestly why I use Qwant. They’re from europe (France) and even tho they still rely on Bing they are working with Ecosia to build their own independent european search index
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Vague… they’re going to gouge their eyes out or they’re going to become oedipus and fuck their own mom?
new_guy@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I use DDG just because they have !bangs and it saves me so much time.
!yt <keyword> searches YouTube !imdb <keyword> searches IMDb
And so on.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
I just have that in my browser. If I type
y search termI get a YouTube Search page for “search term”.kender242@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
If bangs are used for positive searching how do I search for things without the name. I thought !youtube filters out YouTube.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 13 hours ago
-YouTube.com should filter it out. !yt actually takes you to YouTube and then searches the keyword(s).
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
you can do this with most other search engines i think by prefixing your search with the URL of the website
festnt@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
no, bangs take you to the website and searches it in there
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 hours ago
I use Ecosia. There’s just a regular setting to turn the AI thing off. It’s like 1 of 5 settings they have in total.
zeezee@slrpnk.net 15 hours ago
[which is also bing…](“Search results and related ads on Ecosia come from our partners Microsoft Bing” …ecosia.org/…/579-search-results-providers#%3A~%3…)
timestatic@feddit.org 12 hours ago
No they’re building their own search index currently with Qwant
Marinos@feddit.nl 14 hours ago
It’s not just bing. It’s results from bing, Google and eusp.
ICastFist@programming.dev 8 hours ago
I only use ddg to watch youtube from their video search tab
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
There are other options, qwant, ecosia…
UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip 17 hours ago
DuckDuckGo has ai btw
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 16 hours ago
UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip 4 hours ago
I’m aware. To be clear, I use DuckDuckGo. But I think it’s disingenuous to recommend it to people who are looking for a browser without ai without also warning them that you need to type in the special codephrase to remove its ai as well
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
Bing, the porn search engine of your dreams.
Staden_@pawb.social 7 hours ago
On DuckDuckGo there’s this weird phenomena where if my query includes words that are even slightly related to porn themes all my results will be porn. Does this happen on Bing as well?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
I don’t know, if I’m not looking for porn I don’t use bing.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Ah, a fellow Bing Boy
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
God I love searx
Hupf@feddit.org 7 hours ago
God I love ar
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Does Bing not work? Because DDG gets results for me
yata@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
At least as good as google. The belief that google is a better search engine is antiquated, based on a situation that no longer exists. Google has long since fallen to ad algorithms and bloat.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
People have this weird fetish for “Microsoft Bad”. If it comes from Microsoft, it’s bad by default. Reality doesn’t matter.
The fact that Edge is just objectively a better browser than Chrome is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Bing now provides just as good, if not better, results as Google, because Google enshittified its own product is irrelevant, because “Microsoft Bad”.
The fact that Copilot runs on the exact same models as ChatGPT and gives practically identical results is irrelevant because “Microsoft Bad”.
Etc., etc.
festnt@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
microsoft is bad. google is too. and so is openai.
edge used to be internet explorer, which used to be known as the worst browser ever. and if you care at all about privacy, the chrome-based microsoft browser isn’t a good idea.
bing used to be really bad.
copilot gets shoved down every window user’s throats.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
in bings credit, it gave me the archive links to rock band 4s removed content for uhh… file existance purposes that google outirght scrubs out.
slothrop@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
ddg has always been bing, but it’s always been pointless pointing. They laugh at maga, though, and wonder about sheep.
halvar@lemy.lol 1 day ago
They could use Google as far as I’m concerned. From a privacy perspective if 1 million people are proxied through DDG, Google won’t be able to collect any personal data as long as DDG can be trusted with their security. And as far as I’m concerned they can be.
festnt@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
startpage does that
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Didnt DDG get in trouble for selling user data without telling anyone? Or was that Brave Browser? Maybe it was both, I don’t remember…
massi1008@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
What’s even the point of writing the comment when you don’t remember? Just stirring drama for the sake of it isn’t helping anyone.
SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 1 day ago
Ok fine, point me to where I should be searching?
yakko@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I mostly try to find something on Wikipedia first whenever I can (surprisingly often) and go from there.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 hour ago
Fuck everything, I’m going back to Ask Jeeves.