Esports ruined gaming, change my mind (impossible)
Michael
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Heavybell@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 hours ago
I’ll bite. If you want to pick a singular thing to point at and say it’s ruined gaming you should be more upset about micro transactions, especially those in mobile gaming. We live in an era where so many people have a device that is physically more capable than the handheld gaming devices of the past but the entire mobile gaming market is just slop meant to be addictive and extract as much money from you as possible. Imagine a world where Nintendo was making mainline Pokémon games for phones. What if X, Y, Sun, and Moon weren’t made for the 3ds but for phones (or both).
Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
You’re not wrong. Microtransactions ruined gaming, too. :P
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
I think you’re right, but I’d say it goes wider. Things like Steam sales and Game Pass subscriptions also has favored a bunch of shovelware indie titles and AAAA games: either a game is cheap enough to make the cut/be catalog fodder or it has to be monstrous in scope
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I think they’re valid not because I think video games are as meaningful as physical sports, but because I think physical sports are as meaningless as video games. It’s all playing with toys.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 39 minutes ago
Stache_@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
I did a paper on this in college and if the Olympic committee deems chess as a “mental sport” then I sure and shit think esports can be considered a real sport too
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Ok then mental sports need to have their own separate Olympics.
Because Olympics originated as a competitive showcase of the world’s peak physical prowess.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
There’s a lot of grey area in that distinction though. There’s a handful of Olympic sports that showcase fine motor control in ways that aren’t that different from esports. Fencing and shooting are in the same realm as an RTS or FPS.
Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 23 hours ago
My name is not Micheal 🤔
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
It would be weird if it were, I’ve never met a Micheal before.
wjrii@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
You provide physical inputs, which are sensitive to timing and agility, to a rule-based competition. It’s at least as much a sport as golf or curling or bowling. And I say that as someone who doesn’t find eSports particularly compelling. It requires a sophisticated technal infrastructure and doesn’t require superhuman levels of strength or endurance (though the latter in particular could be helpful), but those are merely “sliders on the configuration screen” for whether a certain sport is to your interest.
P1k1e@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Clearly you are a Gamer
wjrii@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Huh. Not much a part of my identity these days, but in a yes/no sense, yeah I guess so, LOL. Of course, these days most gym bros are doing some gaming too.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Are they being targeted?
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
Counterexample: Chess
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 hours ago
Counterpoint, you can categorize chess as a game and not a sport while still acknowledging it’s difficult and worthwhile.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
My name is also Michael. Hi Michael. Nice name.
spongebollocks@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
hi michael. i’m also michael. wanna get married, adopt a kid and name them michael?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Meta comment: Why would a simple semantic disagreement/misunderstanding cause this much friction? Because it’s not about semantics, but about hurt feelings and pecking order.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
If tennis and riding a bicycle are sports then so is gaming.
So they are not sports
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Im cool with tennis and cycling.
Darts pisses me off.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
As a lifelong gamer and avid cyclist, I completely agree.
CelloMike@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Yeahhhh let’s go Most Common Boy’s Name in the Year I Was Born 🤘
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I agree with the two guys on the right.
Chiarottide@lemmy.world 12 minutes ago
If chess is part of the olympics then videogames should be too