I did a paper on this in college and if the Olympic committee deems chess as a “mental sport” then I sure and shit think esports can be considered a real sport too
Michael
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Stache_@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok then mental sports need to have their own separate Olympics.
Because Olympics originated as a competitive showcase of the world’s peak physical prowess.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
There’s a lot of grey area in that distinction though. There’s a handful of Olympic sports that showcase fine motor control in ways that aren’t that different from esports. Fencing and shooting are in the same realm as an RTS or FPS.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
(tongue-in-cheeck devil’s advocate)
And everyone knows the best way to do things is never change them. Like music, and bigoted voting rights.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If chess can be a mental sport there’s no way in hell that Starcraft isn’t. The mindgames and insane amount of instant control and choice making is crazy. Sure professional chess players attempt to go as quickly as possible but they could take their time if they wanted in Starcraft a fraction of a second can be the difference between winning or losing in a battle that you are controlling hundreds of variables
Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
My name is not Micheal 🤔
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It would be weird if it were, I’ve never met a Micheal before.
Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Esports ruined gaming, change my mind (impossible)
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I’ll bite. If you want to pick a singular thing to point at and say it’s ruined gaming you should be more upset about micro transactions, especially those in mobile gaming. We live in an era where so many people have a device that is physically more capable than the handheld gaming devices of the past but the entire mobile gaming market is just slop meant to be addictive and extract as much money from you as possible. Imagine a world where Nintendo was making mainline Pokémon games for phones. What if X, Y, Sun, and Moon weren’t made for the 3ds but for phones (or both).
Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re not wrong. Microtransactions ruined gaming, too. :P
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly, in a way, (fast) internet ruined gaming. When you had to buy a physical disks, there was no way to continuously monetize a game, studios had to make new good games. Back then, there were good games for phones as well, because most people did not have phone internet to enable microtransactions.
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I think you’re right, but I’d say it goes wider. Things like Steam sales and Game Pass subscriptions also has favored a bunch of shovelware indie titles and AAAA games: either a game is cheap enough to make the cut/be catalog fodder or it has to be monstrous in scope
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wjrii@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You provide physical inputs, which are sensitive to timing and agility, to a rule-based competition. It’s at least as much a sport as golf or curling or bowling. And I say that as someone who doesn’t find eSports particularly compelling. It requires a sophisticated technal infrastructure and doesn’t require superhuman levels of strength or endurance (though the latter in particular could be helpful), but those are merely “sliders on the configuration screen” for whether a certain sport is to your interest.
P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Clearly you are a Gamer
wjrii@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Huh. Not much a part of my identity these days, but in a yes/no sense, yeah I guess so, LOL. Of course, these days most gym bros are doing some gaming too.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are they being targeted?
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Counterexample: Chess
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Counterpoint, you can categorize chess as a game and not a sport while still acknowledging it’s difficult and worthwhile.
Chiarottide@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If chess is part of the olympics then videogames should be too
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Olympics shouldn’t exist as they are now in the first place.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It should go back to the original 5 or 7 events.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
My rule for considering it a sport is: anyone should be able to play it if they have everything needed. It’s impossible to be banned from a sport (banned from tournaments is not the same thing) - if you want to play, you play. If you want to make custom rules just for you and your friends, you make them and then play. Nobody can own the rights to a sport (again, not the same as that sport’s tournament). No company can ever stop others from making money with a specific sport.
If you have any kind of ball you can play soccer. If you have anything that can represent chess pieces, you can play chess. If you have a kart you can have a race…
So can videogames be considered sport? Perhaps some can, but anything that requires access to a specific company’s private servers is out of the question. I’m not even gonna argue that the game should be open source, but at the very least it should have a way for anyone to spin up their own server for it.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t much like the idea because video games are company driven. Like Apex exists only because of EA so its an advertising platform for EA. Unlike spkrts like basketball or tennis a video game like Apex or CS can’t exist independent of the company that owns it.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
My name is also Michael. Hi Michael. Nice name.
spongebollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
hi michael. i’m also michael. wanna get married, adopt a kid and name them michael?
13igTyme@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Hmm. I’m all three.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Gymer Bro Michael
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
THE CHOSEN ONE
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If tennis and riding a bicycle are sports then so is gaming.
So they are not sports
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Im cool with tennis and cycling.
Darts pisses me off.
Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tennis is a pretty sporty sport though.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As a lifelong gamer and avid cyclist, I completely agree.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They would be sport if they were something like Chessboxing.
CelloMike@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeahhhh let’s go Most Common Boy’s Name in the Year I Was Born 🤘
miked@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Right? There is almost always another Michael nearby.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree with the two guys on the right.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meta comment: Why would a simple semantic disagreement/misunderstanding cause this much friction? Because it’s not about semantics, but about hurt feelings and pecking order.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think they’re valid not because I think video games are as meaningful as physical sports, but because I think physical sports are as meaningless as video games. It’s all playing with toys.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
If video games had been invented before football, parents would be horrified that people were actually hitting each other for sport.