*But also do it in your free time after your real job and do it for free
It really is amazing any non-corporate research ever gets this far.
Mary E. Brunkow, one of this year's Nobel Prize winners in Medicine, has only 34 published papers and an H-index of 21.
Submitted 7 hours ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/8d13cc35-81fa-4e25-846b-2a418249918f.jpeg
Comments
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 6 hours ago
Sure, not a bad view and I don’t know much about Brunkow and how she works, to be clear… but: you do need all these things in order to get academic funding so you can work on your ideas. Which I am not saying is a great system, it isn’t, but I don’t think it is easy to say these days to academic reseachers, especially early career ones, to not care too much about publications.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 5 hours ago
Science ranking is one more bullshit to deal nowadays. Like if the discovery of something new in a fiels ia going to care about how many medals you have hanging from your suit.
This is literally the bullshit that science magazines and publication entities love the most.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Don’t worry, that system is currently being completely fucked by AI as well.
whyrat@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
If quantity is the measure instead of quality: AI wins!
Repurposed joke: It’s able to make more mistakes faster than any other invention… with the possible exception of tequila and handguns.
hakase@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
I mean sure, as long as I don’t care about getting tenure or finding a permanent position…
Jhex@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The idea is that if you focus on the work, all of that would/should follow…
I have read a few anecdotes from scholars basically confirming this: they were doing “everything right” and getting nowhere but the moment they decided to just do the work that makes them happy, all the titles and positions followed.
I believe Patricia Ryan Madson is one such story although not in a scientific branch. IIRC, she could not get permanent positions in any university even though she had a “perfect resume” but then decided to follow her passion and her career just took off.
I know this is idealistic, but I still wish this were how the world works
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org 2 hours ago
I sure hope this is how it works, because I haven’t been blessed with the patience to care about any of that. I want to solve mysteries.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
I have a high school friend who owns a paper mill. He was a rich kid who never did the work, and always took credit for others work.
He has an h-index of 90 and 200,000 citations. He is not a professor.
wewbull@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
A paper mill will produce a lot of papers.
errer@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I am not following…how does he have so many papers with a high number of citations if he is not a professor? Just an extremely prolific postdoc/person on soft money?
rf_@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
He owns a paper mill, he games the system
guy@piefed.social 6 hours ago
There’s rankings for scientists?
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 6 hours ago
There absolutely is. Academia is completely fucked.
asbestos@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They should just join the unranked servers
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
yeah, not like Wall Street, government or industry.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
Shut up, #16,793.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
Yes, and if you fall down far enough you won’t get any grants to do any research, and “forced” to go back to teaching/mentoring. Both of those things tell a lot about the state of high-level education and academia in the west.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The analytics are overblown, and coaches need to get back to the big picture. Stanford traded Hollins at the deadline for Wu, but picked up the player option on Candell for the 4th year. The performance bonus if they make the all-star team should provide enough motivation to ensure they don’t get saddled with a mid-career ball hog. Team chemistry will be key, hopefully during the preseason they can get it together and not have any niggling injuries interrupt. There is concern about the defensive strategy on set plays, their specialist Franco just had their contract waived and stretched under the current contract, so the team may look to the transfer market mid season when it opens, or potentially to move up in the spring draft to fill needs. Still can’t believe they traded Simpson and pay 2.7 per year for Johnson.
Universities run by MBAs and academics operating like sports franchises.Meanwhile, they’re arresting students in campus for protesting genocide and fascism.
Seems legit.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
What’s an H-index
fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 hours ago
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
It basically measures how old a scientist is.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
…did you remove the default upvote from your own question? Before I upvoted it, it had 0 upvotes and 0 downvotes.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 hours ago
A rare true neutral one out in the wild.
maudelix@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I will be forever grateful that my PI for my doctorate focused on technical and scientific hands-on skills rather than sitting at a desk and writing papers. It helped me much more in my current industry, especially in the field of small-scale bioreactor work.
Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 6 hours ago
AI slop
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 5 hours ago
This is definitely written by an ai, and it’s pure laziness when people don’t fix the styling, which makes it so obvious.
NuraShiny@hexbear.net 6 hours ago
Okay. Take your own advice and stop posting. Focus on what’s important and shut the fuck up.
Directed at the lib who in the picture of course. No one on this site should ever stop posting.
ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 5 hours ago
No one on this site should ever stop posting.
The reason for this is that posting on Hexbear is the second most important thing in all of existence
Lussy@hexbear.net 5 hours ago
lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 hours ago
filthy casual
carrylex@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Not all heros wear capes
stelelor@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Some wear lab coats and blue nitrile gloves!
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
Capitalism’s perversion on display: incentivizing the wrong thing in every case.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 hours ago
I sometimes see videos of Hossenfelder on my feed and have watched a couple. Would you mind adding some context? What are “anti-science grifters”? Sry if i’m a bit out of the loop here.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
There’s probably more to it but at minimum she loves to opine on things she has no expertise on and gets things very wrong as a result. Often things that aren’t even science related.
sleeperdouge@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
Angela Collier on YT has some good videos about these. I think those videos talks about conspiracy and science crackpots.