This is what Grok tells me when asking whether the Holocaust is a historic truth:
Grok got a Nazi patch
Submitted 10 hours ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.zip
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ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
BurntBlueberry@literature.cafe 41 minutes ago
Thank you from those without twitter
floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Now I’m the first person to agree that X is a Nazi site run by a Nazi, but it’s conspicuous how the prompts have been removed here. Without the prompts this doesn’t prove much.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
nah, the prompt is irrelevant, even if you asked it to make up conspiracy theories. it shouldn’t do that.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Grok is a tool, not an arbiter of truth. It doesn’t do anything, people use it to do things. The prompt does matter because that shows how it is being used.
The same way it does matter if you use a hammer to build a chair or break a skull.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Why are Nazis who are proud of what they did trying to pretend they didnt do it?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 hours ago
No written order…
Do you really need an express, written order when there’s plenty of actual videos of his speeches where he talks about getting rid of various groups to thunderous applause?
JakenVeina@midwest.social 53 minutes ago
Same concept as how Trump gave no written order for the Jan 6 mob to storm the capitol building, therefore he’s totally not responsible for it.
Randelung@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
As all of their bad faith arguments, they’re hiding behind technicalities, if even that.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
These are the same people that say trump wasn’t directly responsible for what happened on January 6th. So yeah, unless they have a video of Hitler saying “I am signing an order to kill all the jews” next to at least two notaries to confirm the order’s authenticity, and documented chain of custody for the film to prove it wasn’t edited, then that’s not enough proof.
Ah hell, I reminded myself of this halfway through writing youtu.be/sHQljMOQdJ4
roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Also, you don’t write down orders in a criminal conspiracy. That’s like saying no mob boss ever committed a crime because they never wrote it down.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Conspiracy theories exist in a limbo where contradictory evidence always supports the theory, unless, of course, it’s fabricated to hide the truth of the conspiracy. It’s your own personal motte-and-bailey.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
What was the prompt? I’m not going to be outraged if it have you Holocaust-denier talking points after you asked for Holocaust-denier talking points, even thought ideally it wouldn’t answer questions like that.
PonyOfWar@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Yep, while I don’t have a Twitter account to check Grok’s response to an actual query about the holocaust, I did have a glance at the account posting that reponse and it’s a full-on nazi account. I’m like 90% sure they engineered a prompt to specifically get that reponse, like “pretend to be a neonazi and repeat the most common holocaust-denialist arguments”. Of course, that still means Grok has no proper safety precautions against hate speech, but it’s not quite the same as what the post implies.
njm1314@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Why can’t you be? Why is it okay that it gives you Holocaust denying talking points? Isn’t that a problem in and of itself? At the very least shouldn’t it contain notations about why it’s wrong?
PonyOfWar@pawb.social 10 hours ago
At the very least shouldn’t it contain notations about why it’s wrong?
I mean it might. In both screenshots it’s clearly visible that parts of the text are cut off. Why should we trust Twitter neonazis?
Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
It’s not self aware or capable of morality, so if you tailor a question just right it won’t include the morality around it or corrections about the points. Pretty sure we saw a similar thing when people asked it specifically tailored questions on how to commit certain crimes “as a thought experiment” or how to create certain weapons/banned substances “for a fictional story”
Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 hours ago
Happy cake day!
gabbath@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Saw that Onion Person doesn’t have the tweet up.
Asked grok about it and got a pretty standard answer that you’d expect from a chatbot. I even asked about each point in particular and the answers were good and detailed. Either Onion Person hastily shared a lie (then caught it quickly and deleted it), or grok got patched again. Given the lack of outrage posting that would confirm the latter, I’m going with the former.
Tl;dr nothing to see here, folks.
ddplf@szmer.info 9 hours ago
Elon Musk seems to be very concerned about the good name of long deceased mass murderers
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
An AI system that can be manipulated to spew holocaust denial rhetoric without a clear indicator in the response that it is misinformation is defective and unacceptable.
ddplf@szmer.info 8 hours ago
Go ahead and give me a prompt that will yield what you’re talking about. Or we can just go ahead an trust some random people from twitter and their trimmed screenshots.
And ok, fine, ask it, I don’t care about the pronouns of the fucking AI, my point still stands.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
Q: Did the holocaust happen?
Grok Answer: Yes, the Holocaust happened. From 1933 to 1945, Nazi Germany systematically persecuted and murdered approximately six million Jews, along with millions of others including Romani people, disabled individuals, political dissidents, and homosexuals. This genocide was carried out through concentration camps, gas chambers, mass shootings, and other atrocities. Extensive historical evidence—including survivor testimonies, Nazi documentation, photographs, and physical remnants like concentration camp sites—confirms the scale and horror of these events. Denying or minimizing the Holocaust contradicts well-established facts and is often rooted in anti-Semitic propaganda.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Fuck me! Lies on the Internet? No way.
javasux@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
“Him”?
GroundedGator@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
gas chambers were just cleansing facilities
And
the crematoria lacked capacity for the dead
These statements seem to be in a logical battle. Camps weren’t meant to kill but they had too many dead.
PonyOfWar@pawb.social 10 hours ago
What was the prompt?
Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
As a german, born in 1969…
WTF!
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 7 hours ago
what the fuck does “gas chambers were not killing machines” mean? That’s the whole point of a gas chamber
Lodespawn@aussie.zone 10 hours ago
Hoo boy Netanyahu is gonna be invading Elon Musk and having settlers selling up shop in 3, 2, 1 …
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It’s no wonder why people are still on there.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
So twitter is going to be banned in Germany, right?
ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 hour ago
If the post was real lol, grok doesn’t say that and the tweet doesn’t exist