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Was a TV show you like ever ruined by the addition of a particular character to the point that you had to quit, or nearly quit?

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  • Preacher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Scrappy Doo

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    • chase_what_matters@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That yappy little fucker ruined things.

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  • DarthKaren@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I know it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. I can see every flaw people are saying as well. It’s kind of my guilty pleasure.

    2 1/2 Men: Multiple stages really.

    Jake getting older and the addition of his friend.

    Alan turned from a down on his luck guy to blundering comic relief. It has its funny moments, but there is a lot of cringe to be had in that change.

    Replacement of Charlie with Ashton. I know the crazy behind it. That said, he makes it completely unwatchable. He doesn’t carry nearly the same energy that Sheen does. The same dynamic doesn’t exist between him and Alan, character wise.

    They dialed Alan’s blundering to 1000% after Charlie left.

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  • coaxil@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Pointless baby/pregnancy every time!

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      this, Dexter season 3 in a nutshell

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    • easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      At least Brooklyn 99 saved it for near the end, thank god.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s when I stopped watching the Office.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    X-Files is kinda shit after Mulder is replaced by Dogget.

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    • Rappe@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Dogget at least has some character development, doesn’t hold a candle to Mulder though, but what really got me was the Agent NoPersonality, Monica Reyes. (I had to look up her name) She doesn’t do anything, she doesn’t have any kind of development, she doesn’t add anything and she’s just so boring and cookiecutter. No chemistry with Dogget either. I had actually forgotten she exists until I rewatched the entire series recently.

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      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The only good scene with her was Scully teaching her to run in heels.

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    • WhatThaFudge@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      X-Files was kinda shit LONG before Dogget comes into the picture.

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    • Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      When it actually happened, I stopped watching it. Never seen bothered with an ep after that.

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    • QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think Doggett was in a handful of good Monster-of-The-Week episodes, but at that point the the series had gotten way too dumb that Mulder couldn’t have really made it much better. I think the series was way too in love with its own mythology, which was, frankly, pretty mediocre. The mytharc had become so diluted and silly that I just can’t watch most of those episodes anymore, even before it got bad

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  • mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not the addition of a character but a complete rewrite of a character on Police Cops. Max Power was such a dashing cool cop for the pilot but soon after they rewrote him to be a fat bumbling oaf…

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wasn’t the cool cop named Homer Simpson in the pilot, who then became an idiot laughing stock, causing people also named Homer Simpson to change their name to Max Power, after a hairdryer?

      And that’s the end of that case.

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      • toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        uh-oh, spaghetti-o’s

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    • Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also wasn’t he originally written as being independently wealthy? I think that aspect was also lost in the character transition.

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      • mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yup, from rich ladies man to slob, and he didn’t even have the excuse of having kids! He had three money no kids!

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  • kinkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Goddamn Felicity in Arrow pissed me off. That show grew to have a lot of problems, but she was an especially terrible part of it.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That reminds me of all the Olibur memes.

      Once I figured out the plot to every season I stopped watching.

      A lies to B to protect them. Something happens to B because they didn’t know the truth. Truth comes out anyway. Reconciliation. Rinse. Repeat.

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      • ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Smallville did what?

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    • philycheeze@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yea, this for me as well. When season 3 started I felt the writing was off and kinda fell off for a while thinking I’d catch up later. Once I finally got around to it, the Arrow subreddit had completely morphed into a Daredevil sub as some kind of protest to just how bad it had gotten so I just never went back.

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      • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Season 4 or something when it turned into Dawson Felicitys Creek with masks is when I jumped ship to the rest of the Arrowverse.

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  • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Connor on Angel. His arc was pretty damn painful to sit though, and lasted nearly two seasons.

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    • harsh3466@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Almost quit when Dawn was introduced into Buffy

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      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m going to disagree with Dawn. I feel like she was the one addition that really worked: the ballsy gaslighting that turned out to be a retcon and her being central to the plot actually sold her for me.

        Plus I grew up on Pete and Pete so I was already a Michelle Trachtenberg fan.

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  • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Near from death note. Man what a fucking downgrade.

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  • 50MYT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I will get hate for this but hear me out.

    Sex education.

    First two seasons were epic.

    The third season they introduced a fully rainbow school that absolutely ruined the show. It turned into a challenge to tick every box at the same time instead of being a good tv show that had those topics as part of the story

    I have no issues with the content, but it didn’t feel like it was part of the show, it felt like a big giant participation award instead.

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    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The cracks were there in the second.

      The goal to string things out with more series just makes things worse. And characters archetypes don’t mesh well with the development as the writers want it all to be archetypal.

      Groff-Eric was the best thing about second series. It made main guy even harder to stand.

      But then I always root for the second girl, so how else could I feel?

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      • 50MYT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You spelt Adam and his dad wrong but all good haha

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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m not going to say “Ruined”, but Farscape was significantly degraded by the introduction of Grazer.

    Scorpius is one of the greatest antagonists ever written for a TV show. I don’t think what they chose to do with him was a terrible idea, it’s good to shake things up. But as a replacement as the primary antagonist, Grazer absolutely sucks. The fact that they literally gave her mind control sex pheromones that she spreads from her boobs genuinely sounds like the sort of thing that belongs in a bad porn parody. Like, that is “Horny fourteen year old” levels of bad writing.

    Thankfully the one season she’s a big deal for is still perfectly enjoyable, and the show sticks the landing pretty decently with Peacekeeper Wars, so don’t let this deter anyone from giving it a look. Like all nineties and noughties TV, it’s got a lot of ups and downs, but all in all its a really fun show.

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  • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Stargate SG-1, Anubis. A very evil, evil-looking evil guy who is evil and did a bamboozle once. That’s all the character depth he has.

    Also Cam Mitchell, who is just a non-brand replacement for O’Neill (no offense to the actor).

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Aw real bummed to see you say this. Cam did the best he could stepping into the shoes he was, and while he’s no O’Neill, he grew on me. And I liked Anubis, too!

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    • fox2263@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They killed off Sokar too early in my opinion and then realised the mistake and made Sokar 2

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      they had a 2-for-1 deal with claudia black since they both came from farscape, im guessing thats why. i think shes the better actor though.

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      • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Browder’s acting was fine. It’s the character I didn’t like. A third “charismatic, witty, sarcastic leader” archetype was just too much after O’Neill and Sheppard. His tragic background also feels tacked-on, rushed, and inconsequential, and doesn’t have the same impact as Cold Lazarus.

        Claudia Black, I actually like, mainly because of her stellar performance in the Uncharted games. Vala showed promise early on as a sort of opportunist anti-hero who may help or hinder SG-1 depending on the circumstances, but her inclusion in the SGC’s personnel was too much, let alone putting her in SG-1. Teal’c proved his loyalty and reliability, Vala did the opposite.

        On the whole, the SGC had turned into a parody of itself. Beau Bridges was fine, but I couldn’t take him seriously as a general. Dr. Lee, an obvious comic relief character, did not help. Without Hammond’s straight man to counter the shenanigans, I just couldn’t take it seriously anymore.

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    • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Farscape actors turning up in SG-1 was a disappointment for me. Whatever Claudia Black does for people, she doesn’t do it for me.

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  • collapse_already@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Neelix made me eventually quit watching Star Trek Voyager. Too much cringe.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      there was a episode, where tuvok was either daydreaming or had a holideck program on , where he was strangling neelix, and everyone was clapping.

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    • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Great show if you skip / fast forward his scenes.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Have you ever seen avenue5? Neelix was apparently supposed to be a lot more like Spike before they went jar jar

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    • dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They realised and made him Tuvix for a bit.

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  • BurningRiver@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The Walking Dead. There was a season premiere where Negan became more prominent and just kills off a main character and there was no point to it. That’s when I shut it off mid episode and never watched it again.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      people on reddit on various post said season 1 was the only good one, and everything was just like a repeat, kinda like what SUPERNATURAL TURNED INTO(there was apparently parasocial fans that were constantly thirsting for a slashfiction between several of the characthers).

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      • imetators@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Pretty much. I was all about zombie craze back in the day and The Walking Dead seated off on an epic first season. Then s2 came and it was… Fine… Then s3 came and it was quite bland and had too much drama for too less actual zombie apocalypse action. I stopped on 3 but my friend begged me to each further. I have finished S4 with a feeling that I’ve lost my free time to this show without any return.

        At least supernatural was kinda interesting up to 10th season for me. But imo by then it overstayed it’s welcome.

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    • Skavau@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well opinions on Negan aside, they were completely following the comics for one of those deaths.

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  • mydoomlessaccount@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    When I was a kid, I don’t think I kept watching Rugrats for very much longer after they added Dil.

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  • MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Parks and Rec. They spend like a whole season trying to convince you that April hated Andy forever and it just didn’t need to go on that long. They are way funnier as a couple for the rest of the show and they could have just gotten there in an episode two instead of wasting a whole season with her dating that Spanish guy that Andy ends up playing music with anyway.

    Even on rewatches those scenes just feel forced and stupid. Still love the show though.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      some people said it was andy that ruined the show, and given who the actor supports irl is not a surprise.

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  • S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Izumi in Gantz he was the problem and also the symptom. That became a shitshow for posterity. What the fuck were those vampires man!
    Sheldon in the Big bang theory I know he comes in episode 1 but how the fuck anyone puts up with his shirt? The show for real should have been Leonard saying “why I have to tolerate you?” And gtfo that apartment. I know Sheldon is used as a device to generate stories but man… Could you not just do a nerd stereotypes list of a character?

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  • Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The lincoln lawyer tv show

    Introduction of Cisco ruined it.

    Guy is supposed to be a big macho hunk biker and was some sweaty mom’s basement dewler… we had to turn it off and never went back.

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  • mediocre_magi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Rory (Lucifer’s daughter) from the future on the TV show Lucifer. The time travel plot line felt pretty forced.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      i watched clips of the show, but what was her role, and since she is a nephilim she would be much more powerful than any angel

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  • andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    so specific genre, shows that have to use “famous” hollywood actors as a shoehorn for the show ruiend the show.

    SPN for example had to shoehorn to less than so-so actors for the shows, kripke dint want in the first 5 season(adam) and later jack in the last few season.

    picard was super problematic from s1-s3, and thier attempt including all the old cast was cringey at best, plus they tried to shoehorn changelings again for some reason.

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  • zabadoh@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Cheers wasn’t the same after Kirstie Alley’s Rebecca replaced Diane…

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