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That's why it's called science fiction duh

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe I am in a different environment (particularly not being American), but the old scientists still exist and are still hard at work. In fact, all scientists I know (and I work in academia) care very little for misinformation on their day to day lives. They’ll make fun of it, but don’t have any more contact with them than anyone else. They still spend most of their time working on their actual projects. The only thing that changed is that now they’re bending over backwards to include AI in their grants to make sure they’re accepted, but having to include the latest buzzwords is nothing new.

    Science communicators, on the other hand, yeah, those probably have their hands full with fixing misinformation.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      all scientists I know (and I work in academia) care very little for misinformation on their day to day lives.

      Well in the US, that misinformation is coming for scientists now. Their funding is no longer a given, especially diverging from orthodoxy. Self-censorship is becoming the norm.

      It can happen elsewhere, too. Use us as a warning.

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      • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        also, please send very well armed help. if you don’t liberate us, america will start invading soon. first it will probably be canada or greenland, but that shit won’t STOP at any point.

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    • optissima@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I bet they do still consume misinformation, just not in their fields. I know enough scientists that believe in great man theory or that a magic hand fixes the market to know that they’re out there.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah op you’re right, people who hate science are definitely liberals with eyed bright hair

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    • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      Agree with your sarcasm, but Poe’s Law applies. Always close your sarcasm HTML tag.

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      lol not all people with dyed hair are lefties

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      • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s still the recognized Internet stereotype.

        People just aren’t noticing that this is protection.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just 99%

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, everyone knows were on the back of a turtle, being held up by elephants

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    • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nice try.

      Everyone knows it’s turtles all the way down.

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      • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No. Everything is tuberculosis.

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    • BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The turtle moves!

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The turtle is named the Great A’Tuin, btw

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      • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Behold, the Turtle! of enormous GIRTH!

        Upon his shell, he holds the EARTH!

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The turtle lives

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    • NahMarcas@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So funny, if atlas hear you will drop the land to the void

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    • nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      (… ya’ll, should we get a community? is there one already?)

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s !discworld@lemmy.ml

        But, being on .ml, not everyone has a guarantee of access, since it gets defederated from a few instances. There’s a couple of others, but they’re really not active at all.

        I’d suggest literature.cafe, if anyone was to start a new one. Kinda their focus

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  • zephorah@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    COVID was somehow the visceral turning point. Variations on visitor restrictions in hospitals still exist since then due to the extraordinary and amazing displays of bad behavior from that time.

    People could always behave badly. Direct care staff, as one example, have been wearing panic buttons linked directly to security and calling a violence code over the announcement system, since around 2015 on the medical side of things.

    But COVID was a severe escalation point. Families screaming in hallways that the diagnoses was “fake news” or part of the hospitals “corporate conspiracy” escalating to the point of pulling medical equipment off their loved ones, who could not breathe without that medical equipment.

    Behaviors that could potentially kill people wrapped up in an inexorable belief that science was lying. No trust of medical personnel who are there to help whatever the system around them contrives to do with care.

    While the behaviors are not like COVID times any more, there’s a residual skepticism of, well, everything since that time. Sadly, one that is preyed upon by politics to keep us fighting one another instead of punching up.

    Forgive me, maybe “punching up” is now a ban-worthy turn of phrase.

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m in a very conservative state and until recently I worked in hospitals around the country. You would not believe the amount of times I’ve heard covid conspiracy shit from actual healthcare workers. The most common one is that it’s just the flu, but when anyone died for any reason at the time they put down covid as cause of death. Why would anyone do this? I guess it doesn’t have to make sense. Just to hazard a guess I’d say more than half of the people in my state believe some form of covid conspiracy or disinformation.

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      • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I used to live in Seattle and while I didn’t work in the medical field… I knew quite a lot of nurses and other, fairly entry level kinds of medical workers.

        Most of these people, again, in Seattle, a supposed bastion of lefties… were vaccine skeptics or outright antivax, when COVID happened.

        A lot of these people came from the more conservative areas outside Seattle, and then worked in Seattle because it was the only area hiring… but yeah, my anecdotal experience was/is that many medical staff themselves succumbed to vaccine conspiracies, and would freely admit and bitch about masking and vaccines when off the job.

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Forgive me, maybe “punching up” is now a ban-worthy turn of phrase.

      This isn’t reddit, you can say whatever you want

      Luigi did nothing wrong and neither did the guy who actually fired the gun

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  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The difference is Galileo produced a highly successful theory with more explanatory power than its predecessor, while people who don’t trust “The Science” nowadays spent exactly 2 seconds thinking about it before saying “nuh uh”.

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  • steal_your_face@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No shit it’s not shaped like an eagle. It’s shaped like a velociraptor.

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    • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      xkcd.com/87/

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  • YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I always think it’s so weird when someone uses the aryan chad guy or whatever it’s called to show the “good old days” or whatever. Additionally in this case I find it curious that the images used for the folks who seem to represent the regressive anti-science crowd are a group of characters with more diverse looks. Care to explain your choices OP? @not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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    • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not disagreeing with you, but we really need to stop letting “Aryan” mean what the Nazis decided it should mean. Aryan is, and always has been, a term for the Indo-Iranian cultures. As scientists, we need to be the first to take it back to its actual meaning.

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      • freethemedia@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly, my opinion as someone of Indian descent is the only people that really care about “reclaiming aryan heritage” from nazis are hindutva “Brahmin piety” type people

        I consider myself Indian, not Aryan

        That’s just my opinion, I don’t claim to represent all indo Iranians but like honestly in my opinion the nazis can keep the aryan name

        “Real” Aryans aren’t even worth being proud of anyways, the Aryans were primarily known for using chariot warfare to subjugate the Indian subcontinent and then spent centuries enforcing and enacting the horrific caste systems.

        Nazis can keep the Aryan culture personally I don’t need it anyways

        • my own opinions ofc
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      • YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thank you for pointing that out, I have changed it to be more accurate.

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      • nestle@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Agreed, as an Indo-Aryan person that always made me feel uneasy

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    • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dude, I’m sick to death of these undying white supremacy memes. There’s billions of cartoon faces out there, why does everyone have to use the one that’s born out of racism and hate?

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Eh… a lot of people were protesting “Frankenfood” when the human genome project was going on.

    People have always been idiots about science, just that the idiots are more organized and more vocal now.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      MSM let them on and gave them a megaphone.

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  • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s mostly the red hat cult that doesn’t trust science.

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    • fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What do you have against redhat.com?

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      • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They shifted to a paid subscription model and fucked over any goodwill they had. Yeah they were major contributors to open source, but we gave them clemency because we didn’t think they’d position themselves to fuck us over so eagerly. Had we known, we wouldn’t have made so many downstream distros from them.

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      • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not that red hat cult, the other one. 😂

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  • HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What do you have against Adam Conover, a certified member of the reality-based community and someone who has spent much of his career fighting on the side of facts against myth and misinformation?

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    • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The problem is that Adam Ruins Everything is guilty of spreading more misinformation than it solves. (The Video Games episode is particularly embarrassing)

      It’s neat entertainment and it does expose some bullshit, but it aint perfect. And to its credit it does have a few “Times we were wrong” episodes

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    • Chemo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was wondering the same. Simply seems like a right-wing meme relabeled. Although notice the cyclist and colored hairs.

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  • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People have started to believe that opinions are the same or better than facts. That’s also the reason why politics is fucked.

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    • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ironic that the Right is the movement associated with the phrase “Facts don’t care about your feelings.”

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      • bufalo1973@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Facts researched by the University of My Brown Balls”

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    • Trollception@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People have also gone from disagreeing with each other to outright despising the other party and all people who are associated. Social media has created an echo chamber that has divided us unfortunately.

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    • peteypete420@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Started? Ooooo sweet summer child.

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The internet is a very big reason for that. It gives everybody a platform to spread utter bullshit.

      Like people thinking the earth is a sphere. Weirdos.

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Science just doesn’t know if this trans stuff is safe, don’t Leftists know their biology? Men are men and women are women!” Is something my trans ass is tired of hearing.

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Science then: if you try to prove that the Earth orbits around the sun, we’ll have you tortured and killed

    Science now: 2x2 is not 6, but go off Terry

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That wasn’t science, that was religion for fucks sake! You know, dogma! Ideology. Fuck off!

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean at the time, religion and science were closely intertwined, with primarily religious scholars studying astronomy and astrology

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    • Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be fair: there are momebts when 2x2 =6 may not be an entirely unreasonable way of looking at things. (It would mean that 2=0, which is an assumtion that both can be made and is sometimes made)

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  • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s always been people doubting science. Nothing new

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  • Zidane@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It took me way too long and finally zooming in to realize the first dude didn’t strap knives to his face…

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  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This memes imagery couldn’t be more reversed from reality even if the message is accurate.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I see that Adam Connover fan. TBH that guy used to seem cool but he’s spread a lot of information the last few years. The end of College Humour must have broken him.

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    • baropithecus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m curious, what’s the issue you have with him? I’ve only seen him vocal about the writer strikes lately and his message was fine.

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He was very critical of the DNC candidates during the election. Saying he wasn’t pro-union and talking about how unfit Biden is for office, etc. He also seemed to be very critical of socialism in the USA. He seems to take a controversial stance on every possible subject, possibly just to promote his podcasts and live shows.

        He comes off as one of those people who doesn’t want anybody on the left to win, but he just doesn’t support the right, either.

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      • sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Go watch a clip from when he went on Joe Rogan and dismally failed at supporting and explaining trans issues.

        He is a moron who acts like he has the moral high ground by default, but can’t actually formulate an argument.

        He’s a smug, overconfident blowhard.

        He is the stereotype of the privileged, limousine liberal know it all.

        His heart may be in the right place, but his mind isn’t up to the task.

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, I really liked “Adam ruins everything”.

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    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      disinformation??? that’s quite a claim

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Literally the only thing I can find is an opinion piece about his electric vehicle video.

        Notably, Electrek offered discount codes for Teslas around the time the article was published, giving them a massive incentive to lie about Conover’s credibility

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    • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Completely disagree. His podcasts are stellar. I understand people might not like his monologues, but other than that, bunching him with the “world is flat” people is far-right moronism.

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  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that the Andy Ruins Everything guy?

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      …Adam?

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  • shiftymccool@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is almost like rampant breeding without any environmental pressures causes a decline in the traits that evolved to deal with those pressures. AKA, Idiocracy has happened because we’re too soft to tell people to stop fucking. “Having babies is a Gawd-given right! You can’t take away muh freedums!” Most people shouldn’t be breeding, the species weeps when ~90% of us give birth.

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  • RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The earth is an island on a turtles back.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    in less than a decade

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  • peteypete420@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I call bs. The crowd calling liar is wearing confederate flags and maga hats. A few in suits are pretending to, but they know the truth and dont care because their grandkids will be able to afford air and water subscriptions

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