We have robots. It’s the future now. We should be retiring at 85 while the robots live in luxurious sky cities.
100, here I cum
Submitted 1 year ago by jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org to [deleted]
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
We should be retiring at 50. This is bullshit.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We should be building a society where the concept of retiring is alien because the entire point of living isn’t to work.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
RIGHT???
electrogamerman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That is almost impossible. Even if we had machines and robots, there will always be the necessity for people to work
blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 1 year ago
You can retire at any age you want lol. Most people didn't live in their means nor did they save for retirement starting at 18/22. This was possible 30 years ago. These days? Not so much.
It doesn't mean you can't leverage it way better than most though. Starting a Roth IRA saves more money than even paying off your house loan in half the time. That's saving an extra $70,000 for most. Putting into retirement early triples that lol.
Compound interest via stock/bonds is a bullshit money generating hack made up by rich people to get richer though. The poors literally get their dregs from riding on their coattails then acting like they invested well.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I just want wages to increase to a point where people with a decent education can afford a home without any major financial stress.
It’s not normal to have professionals with bachelor’s degrees not being able to afford a home.
Librechad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean it depends on what you want to do in life, some people live to flip burgers, others live to goto the moon.
Deca@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Women in China retire at age 50, men at 60
spiderman@ani.social 1 year ago
how are retirement plans in china? are they good?
tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
really? that seems unsustainable, but would explain a few things I suppose.
vsis@feddit.cl 1 year ago
middle aged would be around 36.
I didn’t come here to be insulted.
Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Me: *turns 51 in a few days
Also me: “fuck”
lem_dart@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Spitting truth
RBWells@lemmy.world 1 year ago
According to my kids:
0-30 is young.
31-60 is middle aged.
61-90 is old.
Over 90 is fucking old.
nxfsi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How fucking old are your kids for them to say that? Real kids would definitely say that 25 is approaching retirement age.
RBWells@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Youngest is 17, oldest is 31. But it was the younger ones when they were around 10 - I think they were just mathematically calculating the middle third. I’m almost in their “old” category now and think that because (fit) people are aging more slowly than past generations middle age is stretching out, if you are defining it as able bodied and working. That stretches it to like 75 for some people. I don’t think over 30 is “young” though, so if there are only 3 categories it’s middle aged, and no way is 75 not old, if you are fit, healthy, and working at that age you are a fit old person.
And who can’t rock a bikini at 30? WTF, where do you live?
EvilCartyen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
All kids are real kids. Maybe the kids you know are just dumber than this guys kids 😂
keyez@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same, even when I was in Jr High I thought people about to graduate college were old and may well be middle aged compared to me.
jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 1 year ago
The whole point of calling somebody “middle-aged” is that they’re in that indeterminate space where they definitely aren’t young anymore, but they aren’t like, old, old, yet, basically they’re still able-bodied enough to hold down a job.
Not one. Not the other. Somewhere in the middle. Middle-aged.
30 isn’t so old, but it depends hard on the person in question, some are still in great shape, but many 30-year-olds have been nursing a back problem and/or jacked knees for years by the time the birthday comes, they sure as hell don’t feel young. Some 30s haven’t had kids yet, some of them have kids in middle school. So that averages out, and we onboard you to this shitty party at 30. If you can still rock the swimwear at 30, do it, and don’t take it for granted.
For the record, we don’t care what children think old is. Children are insane.
Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Fuck. I’m really middle aged aren’t I…
jdsquared@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m just about to get old LOL
daFRAKKINpope@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You and me both Obi.
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t disagree, but people get confused by average lifespan because it includes babies that die. If you live to 60, in the USA you’re expected to live another 21.4 years (almost 82). census.gov/…/long-life-does-not-always-mean-a-hea…
And that number is still an average. But I get it, 50 still isn’t the middle.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 year ago
People don’t understand what life expectancy means, specifically because 99% of the time, people are talking about life expectancy at birth. What life expectancy st birth means is that half the babies are going to be dead before X years (in the case of OP picture that mean half are going to die before reaching 73 yo), so yeah, the majority of people is going to be 50 yo at some point of their life.
WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 1 year ago
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
And interestingly 38-39 is when your expected remaining is your age.
tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
eh, you’re free to retire in your mid 30s. it’s easy. i retired in my late 30s, then went back to work again when I ran out of money a few years later. it was nice, i look forward to retiring again.
Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Most people would call that a sabbatical.
TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 1 year ago
Interesting. Is retirement just a sabbatical until death?
tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
yeah, you could call it that. for my mental health I referred to it as a retirement.
Kage520@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Dude it is NOT easy to make enough to retire in your 30s. Congratulations to you for even making it a few years. That’s a huge accomplishment. But saying it’s easy is a bit unfair to those who are not able to make that kind of income.
Saying this as someone who also plans to retire before I turn 40, and I DO have an income advantage. It has been very difficult even still.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What’s your retirement number to retire by 40?
1019throw@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Did you FIRE and calculate wrong or had a bad few economic years?
tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
oh no, my job was offshored by IBM - I decided I wasnt going to work anymore and did that for a few years. then I ran low on funds and found a new job. I could quit now & do the same thing for a few years but I’ve got a different plan this time around, it’ll drastically reduce my monthly expenditures allowing my next “retirement” to much longer - possibly permanent.
protput@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thanks for starting my day with giving me a midlife crisis.
Something_Complex@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Brah, I kinda figure education that was for you didn’t count … If it helps
Nioxic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Avg life span is 80+ in most countries…
Redredme@lemmy.world 1 year ago
obinice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve never heard anybody suggest that 50 is middle aged, usually it’s traditionally been 30, or nowadays with life expectancies being higher, 36 is spot on.
Anyway, we’re all going to work until we’re dead, to keep the rich ruling class fed. There’s no escape.
tigull@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I guess the point is you’re middle aged in regards to your contribution to society. First 15-20 years of your life you pretty much just “take”, while the following 50ish you are expected to chip in. In those terms, 50 sounds about right as being referred to as “middle aged”.
Contend6248@feddit.de 1 year ago
Holy, i never thought about it like that
_sideffect@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Actually, we pay a fuck ton during that time
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 year ago
Uhm, retirement was invented for the elderly who can’t really work on the fields/processing plants anymore. Work changed and people got older since then.
80085@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most people still work manual labor jobs. Cognitive ability also declines with age. Age discrimination during hiring/recruiting is fairly common (witnessed it at nearly every job I’ve ever had, even though it’s illegal, and I’ve had a lot of jobs). There aren’t enough “bullshit jobs” like Walmart greeter for everybody. Aging population can be solved by permissible immigration (which are comparably younger populations), but there are too many racists and politicians worried about demographic shifts.
ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Since when do most people in the US still work manual labor jobs? Have we not been in a service economy since around the 80s or did I miss something
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Work is now driving people to age faster due to stress.
Misconduct@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’re living longer and aging slower than ever before now
solstice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I took a year off work recently to detox and had a zero cortisol policy. Lines on my face faded, hair looks great and stopped thinning, came back nicely, lost weight, almost have a six pack for the first time in my life approaching 40. People know how stressful work is but most don’t understand what it’s like to truly live for yourself stress free. I’m super fortunate and grateful for having the opportunity to do that and highly recommend.
The hardest part about going back to work was reentering that disgusting American corporate culture of toxic optimism. I’m fine with a lot of work and my stress tolerance/management is much better now. But that culture of toxic optimism is hard to handle.
0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social 1 year ago
I thought 50 was the middle of your adult life, 20-80 ish years old
DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 year ago
This was my understanding as well.
monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 1 year ago
Wait, your retirement age is less than the average lifespan?
Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
This average is probably including deaths from accidents and illness.
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sure, but statistically speaking you’re as prone to dying from either as anyone else.
s_s@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Average is a dumb way to track lifespan as many people (still) die in childhood.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Right cuz that’s why people work til 65. Totally just a choice/s
NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’ve always viewed middle aged as 40s
HubertManne@kbin.social 1 year ago
I agree here.
callyral@kbin.social 1 year ago
Since when do people think 50 is middle-aged? To me it's always been 30-something years old
TheDubz87@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Apparently getting pregnant at 35 is considered a geriatric pregnancy, so that’s what I’ve always considered mid life.
alvvayson@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same here. For me, 40 is middle aged, since 80 is the normal age to die. Sure, some die earlier and others later, but once you reach 20, the average woman reaches 81 and the average male 78 or so.
SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The average life expectancy of men in the US is 73 (it was 74 pre-COVID).
notacat@mander.xyz 1 year ago
According to some module I had to take yesterday, 18-44 is “young adult” and 45 to something is “middle aged.”
SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 year ago
I like the energy, but this is still a dumb take, even if it’s common. Where TF did the idea that middle= midpoint come from? So does “middle age” last just an instant?
We have young, and elderly, so what do we can the span in the middle when you’re neither of those?
qyron@lemmy.pt 1 year ago
The problem is that we are living longer and healthier than even before and the trend is to keep on rising.
What the real problem is that allowing a person to actually live is troublesome for the current system in place, as in if you do not produce, you are not valuable.
But you are.
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So, what’s the average life expectancy of people who live past the age of 30?
KTVX94@lemmy.myserv.one 1 year ago
The worst part about this is that it reminds me that I’m close to having lived the statistical half of my life, damn.
spark947@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Y’all get out of here. Middle age starts at 40. Don’t at me.
joyjoy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Some say your life doesn’t begin until your mid 20s.
omey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Awshit. I’m nearly middle-aged then.
howsetheraven@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
My entire life I heard 40 is middle aged because life expectancy is somewhere around 80. 40 is when the mid-life crisis starts happening as well.
MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve removed myself as much as possible from the economic system. I am trapped, but I’m having fun trying to wake up. ⏰️ Maybe when I can’t move much, which will be soon, I’ll have to roll into a ditch or something 🤷
rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net 1 year ago
Nice X
LemmyNameMyself@lemmy.world 1 year ago
37 isn’t middle-aged? I had no idea!
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m scared shitless that I will make to 100.
bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My grandpa died at 93 and would say, “people aren’t meant to live this long.” His wife is now 102, she doesn’t seem too pleased, but has her good days and bad. But she doesn’t remember the good days, so that sucks.
FarFarAway@startrek.website 1 year ago
This. No one realizes that your probably not gonna make it to 100 in perfect health. If your body doesn’t go, it will be your mind. Either way, it does not sound appealing.
If nothing else, the arthritis has gotten so bad, you wanna off yourself anyways.
Hard pass.
Urbanfox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m 37 and already broken.
My back is killing me, the sciatica makes sitting down hard. My ankle is fucked from too many injuries doing shit like tough mudder because when you’re young you’re invincible. Top that off with an immune disorder and asthma and it’ll be a miracle if I make it to 50 with a good quality of life.
Ser_Salty@feddit.de 1 year ago
I don’t wanna get to the point where it seems miserable just to, like, walk or something. I don’t mind taking heart medication, walking with a cane, stuff like that, but I don’t wanna live in near constant agony just trying to get through the day.
freecandy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You should try drugs
dilligasatall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Waaay ahead of you there, partner!
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Which ones? I feel like I’ve tried them all