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America's Smartest Man Finds Something Interesting

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why some of the smartest people can be so very stupid | Psyche Ideas

    Basically many people who have the raw processing power or “IQ” to understand and analyse things can still lack certain “mental infrastructure” or education to understand things. This is especially atrocious for narrow minded people who actively rejected new information that doesn’t fit into their mental comfort zone. Musk is definitely one of them.

    This is the reason why we can’t have nice things.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Musk is definitely one of them.

      I’ve yet to see any evidence that Musk is particularly smart. What I’ve mostly seen is his ability to throw big parties and charm investors with bullshit business speak, while riding a wave of lucky bets and state subsidies to billionaire-hood.

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      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No he’s not. But he’s also far from dumb.

        ‘On Stupidity’ (1937). At its heart was the idea that stupidity was not mere ‘dumbness’, not a brute lack of processing power. Dumbness, for Musil, was ‘straightforward’, indeed almost ‘honourable’. Stupidity was something very different and much more dangerous: dangerous precisely because some of the smartest people, the least dumb, were often the most stupid.

        Musk is far from genius level but above average intelligence. He does have knowledge about rockets on a non-engineering level which you can see e.g. in this video talking about his starfactory.

        But he and others like him focus their thinking narrow mindedly on the pursuit of profit. Every decision is based on gaining wealth. THAT is by far the bigger problem.

        Besides the focus of all education towards profit seeking, technical nerds also seem to “want to” see other fields like sociology or politics or history in a simple and easy to explain way. So they seek principles or the most simplistic social theories that don’t explain anything real. Musk certainly falls into that.

        Except now where he seems to go completely off the rails. Possibly a symptom of narcissism ever since he became unpopular, he’s doubling down to find new validation for his fragile ego. So yeah in that sense he is not the best example.

        My point was not just about Musk but about the idea of “finding the smartest people to rule”. Because to anybody who is above intelligence that sounds smart except - stupidity can be more dangerous in intelligent people.

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    • firadin@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Musk is definitely one of them.

      Musk is a rich trust fund baby whose fortune started off the back of Apartheid. It’s not a shocker that he’s a mask-off racist. He’s done nothing to prove himself a genius, just a skilled grifter and financier.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d say it’s more people who are repeatedly told they are smart can be very stupid.

      Many of then might even be “smart”, but the important part is having unwarranted confidence.

      Complicating things is that society rewards confidence way more than it rewards competence. If I’m honest about a lack of competence in a certain area but someone else lies during the interview, good chance they are going to get the job over me.

      The reality is that everyone can be very very stupid, and so long as each and every one of us is willing to accept and recognize our weakness we aren’t as likely to be assholes.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s also important to recognize that smart people can and do fool themselves into believing whatever’s most comfortable to themselves, unless they actively develop the emotional fortitude to face reality.

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      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah true. But like @jj4211@lemmy.world write it’s also that confident behavior is rewarded. And narrow minded focus on profit is more efficient than being focused on other things. And they need to compete with others on this “game” who pursue the calculus of power. So humility is a really hard sell to them. And media is not looking at politics or politicians in that way at all.

        I sometimes feel this lack of emotional fortitude when thinking about reading a book, because books often break up your worldview and require you to adjust. There is a kind of intellectual pain of disillusionment.

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    • senkora@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Great article, thank you for sharing.

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  • zephr_c@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People who work together can’t really do democracy. The only true democracy is the one where a small number of people order everyone around without the input of most people. Because that’s what democracy means.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Source?

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      • zephr_c@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My source is the obvious sarcasm.

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  • auzy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s funny how I’ve tried to bring some of that most blokey guys I have come across on mountaineering and such, and the vast majority weasal out of it

    And the biggest badasses I know always drive the most basic cars lol

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you’re an actual car guy, you’re probably driving some absolute piece of shit that you’ve been continuously breathing life into for the last ten years.

      The folks with the real high end luxury stuff just end up leaving their vehicles in the shop for half the year.

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      • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As the owner of a Jeep Wrangler, I feel both called out and proud…

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  • Greg@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Holy shit, I assumed this was fake but it’s not x.com/elonmusk/status/1830390502836854925 (link accessible as of 2024-09-02)

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  • Squeezer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Imagine thinking that you’re tougher than context.

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    • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good point.

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  • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hope someone simply linked a wiki definition of the word oligarchy, because that would literally be what this is. One in-group that practices democracy amongst themselves but excludes the rest from political power.

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  • Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m autistic and I’ve never heard the term ‘aneurotypical’ before…

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    • theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Neurotypical exists. Neurodivergent is the more “leftist” or scientific term for what they mean.

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      • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Guess “divergent” is to edgy for today’s people.

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      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Neurotypical is a more broad term, and covers things like ADHD, bipolar, DID, etc.

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    • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They mean neuroatypical, which is the same as neurodivergent. Just decided to spell it weirdly for some reason.

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  • wick@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I assume this is referring to William Reich the psychoanalyst. His books look interesting in the way all kooky psychoanalysis crankery does, but I don’t think he ever wrote about high T alpha males before dying in 1957.

    He did write about about how fascists gain power by sexually repressing the population though. I’m sure Elon would hate his views on that.

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    • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fascists gaining power by sexually repressing the population doesn’t sound kooky at all. It’s sounds like reality.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why would this be in reference to Wilhelm Reich?

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      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is mocking Robert Reich.

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      • wick@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Reich effect” on google is wall to wall Nazi shit. “Reich effect psychology” leads to oldmates Wikipedia page.

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  • Imp3riaLL@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you want ‘the handmaid’s tale’? Cause that is how… You do? Oh

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  • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Inb4 people start taking a Lemmy shitpost seriously and argue with it.

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean its an interesting subject so why not? The whole “what would the tribe think” thing is definitely real. But where they went wrong is thinking that this is a bad thing. Its literally the onlly reason humanity has survived so long. Without cooperation there is no tribe.

      The issue of “bruteforceability” stems from the fact that too many people are terminally online. In fact Musk is the prime example of someone that has fallen victim to this.

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      • crawancon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        interesting observation

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      • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why not? Because this is a shitpost community.

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      • basketugly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good for you to admit that it is true.

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  • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Another use for the Killer T cells, other than fighting cancer?

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So what i’m taking from his word salad is that combat abilities may possibly be a hidden asd perk.

    I mean, we do tend to be biters…

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  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I assume this coming from an autistic person is objective truth then, something that definitely exists and we can definitely know. I’m sure they have plenty of science to back it up in that case. They wouldn’t just hear a bunch of thinly disguised bullshit built on the back of junk science and take it at face value without checking if any of it is at all real, not this person with their special objective truth brain.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So The Handmaid’s Tale then?

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  • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is obviously highly suspicious, but

    The amount of people parroting just whatever is currently in without critically questioning it (or even being open to question it) (looking at you, fascists (maga) and tankies (pro-putin /pro-hamas)) is too high

    I don’t know what makes a person lose interest in politics and just parrot whatever the others parrot, but I’m highly suspicious that T is it. I think that part is just a lie in Elon’s interest to spread.

    BTW I just assumed that T is testosterone

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      tankies (pro-putin /pro-hamas)

      Man, one of these is absolutely not like the other.

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      • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s exactly what I mean!

        Hamas has literaly made it their goal to textbook-definition genocide all Israelis.

        Anyone critically thinking about this for even just 10 seconds would realize that Hamas is just as bad if not worse than Nettanyahu

        But no, parroting the current political trend of “poor suppressed Hamas was forced to kill all those civillians”

        Tell me, why do you support Hamas and not the UN special rapporteur for Palestine?

        www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-palestine

        Or any other organization not advocating for terrorism or at least not advocating for genocide?

        It’s because that’s what everyone else does, not because you think that’s what’s right to do

        At least I hope you didn’t make a conscious decision to support a terror organization wanting to genocide an entire Nation

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      >Isreali flag

      >“Maybe the fascist propaganda has a point!”

      Checks out.

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      • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Exactly what I mean

        You see my flag and automatically discard my opinion, because that’s the trendy thing to do

        Listening to what I have to say and thinking critically? No m

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  • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s like asking the tallest dwarf to reach the top shelf

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If every [Fox] screen says it?

    It’s projection again.

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So to get the right to vote you have to win a trial by combat?

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    With how much he whines about this shit I guarantee he takes tes and feels insecure about it

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This must be the truth engine that enticed him to invest in Dogecoin.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lost me at the “high T alpha”.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dude is immune to irony 🤦‍♂️

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The funny part is that the conservatives are the ones who are, by nature, authoritarian followers.

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  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why all scientists are athletes.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, there’s a joke in here about the brain being the biggest muscle

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  • crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why is nobody finding the “Autist Autocracy” interesting as well?!

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    • finkrat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re too busy cringing at that

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  • Bruhh@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Truly ironic

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  • nickel_for_your_thoughts@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So does this mean the “meathead” stereotype is dead or…

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He saw the word “alpha” and ran with it!

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