Y’all got any of them lockout/tagouts?
Next on the hydraulic press channel!
Submitted 8 months ago by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to [deleted]
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formergijoe@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Triple_B@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Lockouts SMH. Back in my day, we just died. And we were happy to work on energized systems for a bee (which was the style at the time).
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
You got paid? We used to have to pay for the privilege of being crushed to death at work.
Artyom@lemm.ee 8 months ago
We have lockout/tagout at home
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is there a charge for “attempted negligent homicide” or something? You did something so catastrophically stupid that was all but guaranteed to kill someone except you got lucky, but you still should end up getting censured so you don’t roll the dice on someone’s life again
Etterra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Reminds me of an story I heard once. Guy working on a job locks and tags out a circuit so he can work on it. Guy goes up on a ladder to do the work.
Coworker comes along and sees circuit left locked; he decides he needs to activate the circuit. Coworker uses bolt cutters to remove the lock and flips on the circuit.
Guy on ladder gets literally knocked off the ladder, falls 10-20 feet onto grass. Guy is rushed to the ER.
Boss investigates, gives coworker two options: either he can quit immediately, or he can keep working and personally explain himself to guy in a month when he gets out of the hospital.
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Where I live, for that kind of incident the employer would be obligated (as in, $50k worth of fines and likely criminal charges if you don’t) to report it to an independent investigator to determine who was at fault; the person cut the lock would be liable for a fine, and the employer would have to prove that they adequately trained the employee before allowing them to work in a high risk area, or the health and safety officer and company directors could be found criminally liable
Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I worked briefly at a store where the Store Director was clearly still traumatized about an employee death years prior. Didn’t press for details, but it was preventable and they were hyper-vigilant about safety precautions.
The world would be better without Captain Bolt Cutter and their kind spreading misery with their weaponized stupidity.
uranibaba@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I remember reading something similar, with someone responding that they were always two people for these tasks. One doing the job and one guarding the circuit, making sure this does not happen.
makyo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Option three - lock tag and then send coworker up, leaving original guy behind at the circuit with the bolt cutters to do as he sees fit.
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
No, this is a corporation, so unfortunately the best we can do is some tax cuts maybe a massive bailout.
Madison420@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hey at first it said “only hit this button if you really hate Phil, it will kill him.” but they thought better and changed it.
Cerothen@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I think this is what you’re looking for.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can you perhaps relate that information in a format that doesn’t involve me watching a video?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 8 months ago
When preparing/working on a machine, TURN IT OFF. IT IS LITERALLY THE FIRST STEP WHEN REPAIR ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Z4XC@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lock out, tag out
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That too, but Jesus, how dense do you have to be to not even turn the machine off?
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sometimes this isn’t possible if the machine needs to stay up to temp, like with plastic injection molders. In those cases, the operation can usually be stopped by a padlock placed somewhere on the controls. There’s usually training about it for everyone involved to make sure they know what’s up.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
And if there’re multiple people involved each one should have their own pad lock placed on the controls.
teamevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Also ZIPTIE it off
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And unplug it. And lock it out so some dumbass can’t plug it back in and turn it on.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
this is NOT tag out lock out approved holy fuck
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Yeah I came here to say that this is a fucking terrifying LOTO procedure that most likely will eventually kill someone
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
absolutely. I’d almost want to disassemble something like this before cleaning it properly.
That or have a very explicit physical lock out mechanism if it’s something like a stamping press.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
This isn’t proper lock out, tag out procedure.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lockout? Never heard of him
jaybone@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“I thought they said lookout. Like look out for the sign. Geez.”
Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
why aren’t they doing lockout tagout?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Because they’re doing note out hope out. Obviously.
antidote101@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can they not just, unplug it?
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
If a tool or machine can simply be unplugged, and the worker performing the service remains in control of the plug, then lockout procedures aren’t necessary.
SlothMama@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Same thing I thought, unless there isn’t a place for a lock.
Liz@midwest.social 8 months ago
There is always a way to disable a machine. The button has power. At the very least, the power to that button should be locked out. If it has to happen at the breaker, so be it.
bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Breaker feeding the thing power.
yemmly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They’re putting a lot of faith in that tape.
brazos01@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
I actually knew a guy who died this way at a Caterpillar factory near Peoria, IL. Machine wasn’t properly tagged out/locked out. He was inside doing maintenance and someone came along and attempted to put the machine back in service. RIP Troy Bryner
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
What a terrible way to go
triclops6@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
34 too :(
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
uranibaba@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You lock it with 6 pad locks?
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Just one padlock is enough, but you can use up to 6.
You need all the locks removed before it’ll open, so you don’t need to count on someone to carefully count everyone back in. You just make sure that each person uses their own lock
batmaniam@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think it’s so you can create “and” conditions for unlocking. IE: If you’ve got two locks, each with their own key, both person 1 AND person 2 need to unlock it. So you can have multiple people and/or multiple crews working on the machine across different aspects. Maybe one crew is doing electric, the other some kind of plumbing, and they’re working at different times. When one crew finishes their work, they can release their lockout without making it unsafe for the other crew.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
When your life is protected by, and depends on a little scribbled piece of paper…
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Today on hoodroolic press channel, ve haff an intern, a new intern who’s cleaning the press, and he looks prooty dangerous, so ve must deel vif it.
hydration9806@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
The real question is whether this was put up on April 2 or is a really old sign from Feb 4. ISO 8601 saves lives people, but probably not as many as proper lock out/tag out procedures.
Liz@midwest.social 8 months ago
As long as that sign is there, don’t fucking touch it. Go figure out who put it there and ream there ass for writing it instead of locking out the machine.
Bahnd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Greetings fellow ISO-8601 fan club member.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 months ago
maybe they just really like slash-delimited palindromes
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I see they’re following their note-out, scribble-out procedures
sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Well, the button says “pull to start” and the sign says “do not push” so we’re good to start it, right?
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 months ago
they cancel one another out and it’s dealer’s choice
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
LOTO? Never heard of her.
jpreston2005@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lock Out/ Tag Out what? Just post a handmade sign, dude
froh42@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Was hat die Reinigungskraft im Kraftwerk gesagt?
“Schalt jetzt bloß nicht die Turbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…”
SomeBoyo@feddit.de 8 months ago
Maybe just a little push
workerONE@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You could press it but don’t
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Karaatti@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Also the machine seems to be pull to start and push to stop…
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 8 months ago
The machine is keeping them alive. DO NOT PRESS THE AIRLOCK BUTTON UNLESS THEIR SPACESUITS ARE SEALED AND TETHERED. You don’t want the maintenance crew shot into outer space!
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I can’t read, I wonder if this is the button for free candy
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Boeing? (looks like a flight attendant panel)
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Health and safety is going to want to see that.
Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The intrusive thoughts…
Etterra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Should we lock & tag out the circuit?
Nah, this shitty sign should keep us safe.
cerement@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Engineering the future at Boeing!
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes but that cost money. And the company stock buy backs and executive bonuses needs to happen.