In what world is The Office US higher than The Office UK?
According to the New York Times, Game of Thrones is the 6th best TV show of the 21st century
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FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
mantricx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The first few episodes (first entire season maybe) of Office US is worse, but as an entire series there’s little argument that the U.S. version was more engaging, created more diverse and memorable characters, and had much better storylines. Most of this is purely because it ran longer, but it’s really a very different type of show.
NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
The office US is broadly considered the better version. It certainly had a way bigger market success.
KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Absolutely agreed it’s McDonald’s against a good restaurant, sure one serves more customers but it’s nowhere near the quality
sqauffle@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Andor not in the top ten is clown dookie
spacegoat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wonder when the list was created
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’ve haven’t seen the vast majority of these so I can’t speak for their quality.
Some I’ve started but haven’t finished and the quality varies drastically.
I’ve only seen four of these to completion (Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Mare of Easttown and Baby Reindeer) only two of which (Breaking Bad and Mad Men) I would recommend.
But the biggest questions on my mind: why would you compile such a list when there’s still 8 decades left in this century? Will television as a medium still exit in 2101?
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
If you liked Breaking Bad, I think you should give Better Call Saul a chance. It’s slower but well-written and the direction is very high level.
noxypaws@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
arguably Better Call Saul is even better than Breaking Bad.
not through any fault or flaw with Breaking Bad. Both are absolutely masterpieces.
olafurp@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No anime on the list means they’re just uncultured.
FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
I can take it seriously if they have The Americans in the top twenty! Pretty good showing for British shows in a US-based list.
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
I’m surprised to have watched quite some of them! And I am glad to see Andor high up (subjectively, I would put it number 1, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea)
Sales pitch: politics, political activism and action in the Star Wars universe. What happens when you are not a shiny Jedi but just a dude? Absolutely great, perfectly paced, tackling cool problems. Gives meat to the dystopian Empire. I will stop here, you should watch the first episode.
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Thumbs up for Reservation Dogs, but I’d have rated it higher.
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
There’s only one show on that list where I’ve seen every single episode: Chernobyl. And that’s only because it’s a single, short season. I started others from that list and enjoyed them, but finishing them feels like such a big project.
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I recommend Fleabag to basically everyone, and it’s only two six-episode seasons, Chernobyl was probably longer
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Sorry, Chernobyl only has 5 episodes. Also, Fleabag doesn’t sound like it’d be something for me.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No Pushing Daisies?
underscores@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s intentionally sorted like ass for engagement
cally@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The Good Place should be ranked 1st because the list is subjective and I disagree with it, also I haven’t watched most of these shows. Community would be in 2nd place.
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Okay so I love Mike Schur, but I know the twist of The Good Place and that’s stayed me from prioritizing watching it.
My question to you is, does knowing the twist change some of the comedy for a first viewing?
cally@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The Good Place season 1 spoilers ("the twist")
I’ve watched the show 3 times and I still enjoy it (it’s my “comfort show").
The vibe definitely changes on a second watch, or if you know the twist, but it’s enjoyable either way! You notice so much foreshadowing for it and the jokes remain funny (funnier when knowing the twist, in my opinion).
Anyway, the plot twist happens at the end of the first season of the show, so even if, to you, knowing it kinda stains the experience, it has 3 more seasons after the initial twist. I really recommend watching it!
Miaou@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
It only matters for the first season. I also didn’t mind rewatching it, as there are small details here and there hinting at the big spoiler (or at least that’ll remind you of it)
IamMoonPie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No way! It’s definitely still worth a watch. I’ve never had a show make me cry so severely both from laughter and sadness. It’s beautiful!
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I really like that The OA got on the list.
Almost no one I know has even heard of it.
Pat@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
1: Never even watched a single episode of any of these.
2: Why isn’t Mythbusters on here?
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh you’re so cool for not watching any of the top100 shows.
Just to calibrate: have you watched ANY western TV shows in the last 20 years? If so, which?
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Does Sendung mit der Maus count?
Pat@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
Mythbusters, The Simpsons, and one (1) episode of Family Guy. Also, note, “best” is an exceptionally vague term, so let’s not get into Internet flamewars over it. And, for the record, I haven’t watched non-Western TV shows either. Maybe one episode of Pokémon when I was a wee kid.
whiteblacula@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Mythbusters should definitely be up there somewhere
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No Seinfield?
radiofreebc@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seinfeld sucked. What a dumb show.
NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
The sitcom format in general just doesn’t work for modern audiences. The format needed entirely self contained narratives which could be watched with a whole family - that isn’t what the market demands these days.
I think Seinfield sucked but I think all sitcom sucks, mostly because I didn’t grow up in a house that watched them + moved to streaming before I had my own place.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seinfeld ran from 1989-98. This is a list of 21st century shows
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But gilmore girls is in there? Please dont tell me gilmore girls was on during the 2000s and fuck with my memory
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lost is far too low for how invaluable to the way television is today it is. one of the most influential pieces of media ever. it should be top 10 without question
KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude that show jumped the shark the second the time skips appeared, I couldn’t even finish it
Rikkard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Silo? From? Severance?
schmalls@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Severance made their list.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
Silo is weak. Only first season of Severance was good.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Game of…what again?..
Something about a cold season approaching? Can’t really seem to remember…
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
"Seasons change, and so did I. You need not wonder why."
- Jon Thrones
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“My clock is done.” - Jon Thrones
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m curious how they made the list… It couldn’t have been just some intern / writer putting down their top 100? There had to be some sort of stats involved no? Like number of people watching? Number of weekly watchers? Impact on online discussions? I don’t see what state it could have been which would have ignored so many other shows.
Doom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve watched almost none of these. But I’ve seen a lot of them advertised - hard. This feel like promotional material. I’d bet all of these are currently streaming on varying services. I mean looook at all these shows you haven’t seen. Do you want to be the only one who hasn’t seen PEN15? If you don’t keep paying higher and higher monies to your streaming overlords you’ll miss the the in progress award winning shows. Do you want to be a social pariah?
architect@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Pen15 is the best. You people are uncultured swine. You haven’t even seen it and you judge.
BillyCrystalMeth@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I would actually recommend PEN15 to anyone willing to listen
barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Dude same, it’s weird that there’s a couple comments specifically singling it out in this thread.
DrBob@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Californication seems to be missing.
axx@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The Expanse. Where’s the fucking Expanse?
Igris@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I think The Expanse was only streaming. On the other hand i don’t know if Breaking Bad was actually on TV.
zenez@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No Expanse, but Battlestar Galactica is 37? I liked it, but it was nowhere close to The Expanse.
Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is Dicktown erasure! Also, it’s ludicrous that Taskmaster isn’t on here.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No whose line?
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Though the majority of its runtime has been in the 21st century, it initially aired in September of 1998 (British version was back in '88). Every other entry on this list starts at 2000 or later.
adwijoma@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No
Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Girls at 13 is much more egregious, IMO
jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Key and Peele rated higher than Chappelle show? What are we even doing here?
RodersTrotters@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All time best show is Friends, everybody knows it.
CreativeCider@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Typical NYT list, lots of filler series. But where the fuck is 24?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
Deadwood. Great show. Definitely belongs on the list. Cancelled too early. I heard rumors about a movie that would work as the final episode as something.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I don’t watch a lot of TV, and this list proves it lol. I think I counted 10 or less, maybe 15.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I counted all of five (and only two I’ve seen more than 1-2 episodes of), which yeah that kinda explains a lot. I miss so many references in my day-to-day, maybe I should binge some things for the cultural literacy…
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
OK I recounted and it was 15. Some of these are really old though, and consumption habits have changed quite a bit over the last 20 years. Most of these were viewed well after they originally aired.
Breaking Bad (2008-2013; complete) Game of Thrones (2011-2019; most) Arrested Development (2003-2019; most) Lost (2004-2010; complete?) Black Mirror (2011-pres; some) Severance (2022-present; Season 1&2) Survivor (2000-pres; some) BSG (2005-2009; complete) House of Cards (2013-2018; first season) Parks and Rec (2009-2015; complete) Stranger Things (2016-2025; first season) Bourdain PU (2013-2018; complete) Bourdain NR (2005-2012; complete) Squid Game (2021-2025; Season 1&2) Planet Earth (2006; some)
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
So many shows are way too high on the list. 30 rock, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Atlanta, The Office (US), Girls… all really good shows but definitely not top 20. It’s stupid to argue if a show is top 40 of top 70 but it’s fairly easy to tell if a show is “one of the best of the century” and those are not. Adolescence, True Detective, Band of Brothers or Black Mirror set new standards. Those shows were good but far from “best”.