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Submitted ⁨⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I liked a version of this (I believe) XKCD said once.

    A perfectly valid response to the question, “why is the sky blue?” is simply, “because air is blue.”

    Yes, you can give a lot of explanation about refractive index and Rayleigh scattering. But all this does is provide details of how light interacts with air. And the same reason anything is the color that it is is due to the way it reflects, transmits, or absorbs light. You’re citing real scientific principles, but you’re ultimately just explaining why air is blue.

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    • bullsworth@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s a very good relevant XKCD.

      The title text is more directly applicable: If you ask “why are leaves green?” the usual answer is “because they’re full of chlorophyll, and chlorophyll is green,” even though “why does chlorophyll scatter green light?” is a great question too.

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    • Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Don’t breathe air, it has sharks in it! BLUE HAS SHARKS IN IT!” -The funny purple man

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      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Don’t breathe air, it has sharks in it! BLUE HAS SHARKS IN IT

        ???

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    • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But it’s an incomplete answer.

      “air is invisible at short distances, blue at longer distances, and takes on red green and orange at unset” would be better

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      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The same is true for all colors. Tell me the color of a single atom.

        Yes, air can be colors other than blue at unusual light conditions, like sunset. But the same is true for any material.

        You’re stuck on the urge to explain. You call “the air is blue” incomplete. But all answers are incomplete. When someone asks what color an object is, they mean under ordinary distances and conditions. Air is blue even in an ordinary room. It just takes miles worth of air for its slight blue color to be noticeable.

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The crazy part is the exact science behind why plants reflect green specifically is still debated. One theory is that, because much of the sun’s energy is released on that wavelength, controlling for it specifically allows the plant to better manage energy fluctuations (highly simplified but you get the idea)

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Why” and “biology” famously do not get along. The best you can usually do is say it’s evolutionarily advantageous because the true answer is usually a neural network the size of life itself. There are plenty of decent reasons that play parts that we can quibble over, though.

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    • rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So why are some plants purple?

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      • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Wish I knew lol

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      • Aqivex@fedinsfw.app ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Anthocyanins!.

        Which curiously enough, can also photosynthesize, and more readily absorb energy from green light than chlorophyll!

        Makes me wonder what could be achieved with some careful engineering…

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      • Sirdubdee@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Cold nights while growing.

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    • Zorcron@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Very interesting, thanks for the info!

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Incandescent rage” is one of those phrases I have pocketed for a future conversation.

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    • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      theonion.com/after-obama-victory-shrieking-white-…

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      • Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean, technically they weren’t wrong.

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  • rethnor@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except the sun isn’t yellow, it’s white with a slight bias towards green.

    Want to check, put something white outside, it looks white, not yellow.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The reason the sun appears to be yellow is the same reason that the sky appears to be blue.

      Blue light is scattered more by the air in the atmosphere than other wavelengths. Remove blue from white light and you get yellow. So the light coming from the sun that isn’t scattered and dispersed through the sky (making the sky look blue) is yellow.

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    • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Neither water is blue

      They take us for absolute fools

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Maybe not the water you drink (chugs Gatorade frost)

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    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s why I never developed super powers.

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  • CareHare@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Purple leaves are a thing.

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    • lemmyng@piefed.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s from plants that get their air mostly from the shade and sunsets, so obviously they’d be less yellow and more dark and red.

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      • CareHare@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I know this is a joke, but to be fair: the scientific consensus (now) is that the purple pigmentation acts as a sort of sunscreen against too much sunlight.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        they are more dark green if they a understory plant, or a shaded plant. there of course plants that have no chlorophyll whatsoever. 2 types, one is mostly albino plants where they lose all thier chlorophyll, the other is mycoheterotrophic plants(either partial or fully). ever seen a albino redwood, apparently it lives off being attached to the roots of the parent plant where it came from or from nearby trees.

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    • MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s also an extremely tiny percent of plants that are entirely white, they don’t get their energy through photosynthesis but instead a parasitic relationship of fungi and other plants.

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      • sneekee_snek_17@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mycoheterotrophs! Love them, such bizarre little plants

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Albino plants are a thing, but they usually are attached to the main plant where they came from. albino redwoods is an example. fully parasitic plants usually dont have leaves or have a small nonfunctional ones. some parasitic plants is exist as filaments inside a host(no stem no, leaves whatsoever)(rafflesia, pilostyles)

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    • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As is purple rain.

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  • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Whinging about a fact being wrong without providing a correction is worse than the one being wrong.

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    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The thing is it’s kinda right, just lacking detail

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      • ranzispa@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is indeed a valid theory, but not very powerful since it can only explain the color of green plants and not for example the color of non green plants or animals.

        More powerful theories have been developed which can work on a much broader range of applications. For example the theory that plants are the color they are because God painted them that way.

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      • hirihit640@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Cab you help explain it? I thought that the sky was blue because it reflects the ocean and because of rayleigh scattering, but do either of these affect the color of plants?

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  • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So, what color were plants during the Hadean æon?

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  • AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m still not following. What part of “blue air” imparts chlorophyll with its color? I get the sun. I understand how light works (reflection, refraction, and scattering). I understand our perception of light on a neuological level (including post-processing) to an extent that most people haven’t studied. Why “blue” air make green plant?

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    • Deme@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My guess would be that plants optimize also for absorbing a significant amount of the light they receive from the blue sky, so they still get some when direct sunlight isn’t available.

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    • Sixseven@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mix blue and yellow paint and you end up with green paint.

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      • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So, is the blue from the water in the plant or the air?

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  • whereitsat@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    lemmy poster here. both of these people are annoying, unfunny fucks.

    bet you didn’t see that one coming!

    btw i have a masters degree in internet posting.

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    • mrslt@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lemme guess, reddit transplant?

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      • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Isn’t everybody?

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