European soccer hooligans are some of the worst people on the continent. Also majority of them are fascists, especially in eastern europe.
Capital of Estonia after a visit from Swedish football fans
Submitted 2 weeks ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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TimeNaan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a swiss football team near us that has fans that all wear khaki trousers and black shirts and they march instead of singing and waving scarves. Creepy as hell.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The nationalists in the US dress like that when they march, Nazi stuff.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Then they would feel right at home in Estonia
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Not only mildly infuriating
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
‘Ultras’ of any football club should be categorized as domestic terror groups or whatever. No matter the country, all they do is just smear graffiti, destroy public property, be drunk, starting fighta and being generally obnoxious POS. Football clubs should be liable for any damage those mfs do. And if that means that they need to raise ticket prices, good. Maybe this will discourage those mfs from going to the stadium.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Exactly.
People don’t join these groups because they like football.
They join because they want to get drunk, fight, and smash things up, and need an ‘excuse’ to do that, and similar people to do it with.
huppakee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hope the hosting stadium sends the bill, local authorities find the perpetrators and all business get insurance to pay out. Also i hope some researcher shows how much more expensive hosting a football match becomes because of these ‘supporters’, and that these costs are charged beforehand somehow.
Epzillon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every day I wake up and feel the immense happiness of knowing that standing up for myself through the 10 years of elementary school and ignoring all of the football guys made me a better person.
Jokes aside, as a swede it is horrible knowing our own football fans behave this way. I sure hope authorities take responsibility and pay for this. These fans shouldnt be allowed to attend games.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This shows the difference between casual football fans that went to see the world cup (they were awesome) and hardcore football fans that are closer to terrorist organizations.
These shitstains don’t just get drunk and destroy things and attack people, they plan to do so ahead of time, this is just part of the fun for them
CombatWombat@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
This is particularly baffling because European soccer isn’t in season. They did this for a friendly? I mean a coupla-few stickers maybe, but what kind of celebrating or bad blood are you having after a friendly?
aldhissla@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
There doesn’t have to be a reason to any of this. Hooligans cause damage any chance they get. They do this at home too. They are permanently at war with everyone and everything.
They’re pests. You don’t reason with cockroaches.
Mindful@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The qualifiers for Europa league/conference league etc. has already started. This was a conference league qualifier game.
CombatWombat@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
Ah that makes more sense, although an ecl qualifier is still pretty tame.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wow look at that.
Europeans can be just as big if not bigger pieces of shit than Americans!
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
White Americans are just (usually) even more uncouth Europeans???
Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This was probably Americans who were just watching Sweden play
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Considering the graffiti is not in English (or any language that I, an American, recognize):
(X) Doubt
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
As a Swede I find this utterly embarrassing, and more than just mildly infuriating. These are just criminals who use football as an excuse to hate on society.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They’re like this everywhere.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It never seems to be a great time for the surrounding infrastructure when a huge amount of people congregate, but it really does feel like sports events bring the worst…
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Well you can’t expect them to vandalize their own home town.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Philadelphia almost exclusively damagea their own town. And they do it the most when they win.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Have you seen Göteborg? It’s a permanent shithole so damage like this wouldn’t look out of place.
M137@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Swede here (and from GBG, Gothenburg), and I can only say I’m sorry for the shit stains that did this. I have no interest in sports so I really had no idea this was something that could happen. Fuck every single person who took part in this, they don’t represent us as a country and city at all. I hope you hate them for them, not the whole country and city. And I, and I’m absolutely certain most of us, share the absolutely deserved hate towards the people who did this. I hope there’s some way to get names and make those public, I’d love to make them feel unwelcome in their own home.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
This and players pretending to be injured on the field is why of all the sports in the world football has by far the worst reputation in my mind.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
it’s kind of tragic, because smaller clubs with smaller fan communities are some of the most lovely people
Evotech@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fun fact. Their own club will pay for the damages.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m so sorry and ashamed of those Swedes. Tallin is such a beautiful city. I hope the Estonian police can gather enough data and share it with Swedish police to identify and prosecute those idiots.
NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Make the clubs pay for this kind of thing and watch the problem disappear in record time.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There was a a daycare that was annoyed by parents that were always late to pick up their kids. This was a problem because it meant the staff would have to work late. So they decided to charge a fine when parents showed up late. Problem solved, right?
Parents were tardy more often after the fine were put in place.
The reason was that people who felt bad about their poor behavior no longer felt bad when they were compensating someone for it.
The Swedish fans pay for tickets which support the team. The ticket prices would go up when they behave this way. But we shouldn’t assume that it would be a deterrent. They might think that because they pay higher ticket prices, they now have permission to behave poorly.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m sure they would vandalise with the rival clubs brands then.
lambipapp@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Man, as someone who lives near Gothenburg. I am so so sorry for my neighbors. Football brings out the worst of some. I love Tallin so this makes me really really sad
skulkbane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Damn, as a Swedish person. I’m sorry our football hooligans are a problem even here. I don’t known it was that bad though.
Avicenna@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
football fanatics being a pestilence as always
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have never understood what the point of going crazy after a sports event.
If you let sports become an emotional experience, I have problems with you already, but allowing it to get you worked up into enough of a frenzy to just go out and break stuff just makes no sense at all.
If the outcome of a game affects you even one iota more than “oh well” or “yay”, then I already know you’re of caveman-level intelligence. Yes, I’m judging raucous sports fans, and I’m tired of pretending not to. Nothing should ever get you that worked up at all. Except maybe a ton of coke. Even life or death situations should be more chill than that.
I won’t even get that crazy when Trump dies, so sports fans have no reason to ever get like that. I don’t care about their ages or maturity either. Getting that worked up at all, ever, in any context is just proof of lack of self control.
And people act like it’s just normal. I see it mentioned after American football games too (usually I hear about it in reference to Philadelphia but I’m sure it’s talked about elsewhere too).
These people need to be force sedated during the game to prevent this from happening.
KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
95% of people overlook the involvement of alcohol. I know you urinpeans love your booze, but you need to recognize that its a problem. I went out to a 4/20 event one year in the far off land of San Francisco, and everything was great until about 5pm when the liquor came out. Once morons started doing shots off park benches, the fights started, and the property destruction started. An otherwise peaceful and heavily medicated gathering turned into a riot with just a handful of handles.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Right, but other than sports, where else do huge masses of alkies all happen to be in the same spot?
People act like they can’t go anywhere or do anything without alcohol being available to overdose on. Sports? Alcohol. Restaurant? Alcohol. Fancy movie theater? Alcohol. Dinner party? Depends on the specific people involved, but fairly often, alcohol. Bowling alley? Alcohol.
Pretty much every social gathering that doesn’t specifically include kids has alcohol around. Even if we could get everybody to upgrade to (the entirely superior in literally every single possible way-and it’s not even close) cannabis, I wouldn’t recommend it being literally everywhere.
In big crowds it really shouldn’t be available at all. No context makes that a good idea.
Not sure why you’re shitting on Europeans, either.
NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I suspect they are not actually in a state of extreme emotional turmoil when these things happen, but they rather just enjoy destruction for its own sake and don’t care about the consequences for others. The sports event is just an excuse.
Similar things unfortunately exist in other contexts, too. Recently I heard on similar behavior in the camping area of large music festivals being an increasing problem.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The point is to give people a more safe outlet for their tribalistic impulses. That’s why this propaganda with Trump is working so well, they’re exploiting that instinct. I still feel that when all those right wingers decided to boycott the NFL, that’s when we lost them to the ultra right.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I tune out the moment people start talking about sportsball. I think a lot of the destructive side of things comes from a mob effect. You get a lot of inebriated people together, all high on their excitement, and it compounds. It’s not justified, but one potential reason.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
People just never grow out of kindergarten. I still say nothing should excite anyone that much, at all, ever.
And alcohol rules being as loose as they are is total mayhem. Public alcohol should never have gotten this lenient. Staying prohibition didn’t exactly work out, but public events should be like one drink maximum. Maybe two. I dunno how to stop people, exactly, but bring dishes in public shouldn’t be possible.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All these Swedes apologizing and me as an american watching this like, “so that’s what it looks like from the outside to apologize for your idiot countrymen.”
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hope the club responsible gets the bill in full, detailed and all. What a fucking travesty.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Not surprised. People from Göteborg can’t behave themselves. They’re all inbred shrimp smugglers with no imaginable future unless their dream come true and they can move to Stockholm.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
600k residents in the city area and 1.1 million in the metropolitan area. All inbred shrimp smuggles.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Pretty much, yeah. Ever been?
Ice@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Football firms consist of a special kind of fanatics. They’re there to seek out violence and destruction. Despicable really.
Awooooooga@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Feeling kinda vindicated as a Canadian curling fan rn
Frostbeard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dont talk to me about those mf’ers! Didn’t say please, didn’t say thank you. Wet clothes inside. Made a slight mess they did.
/s :)
flango@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
Which game?
sanitation@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
sweden vs estonia. football
EarJava@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wi Semen?
nullspace@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How embarrassing.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Perhaps more mildly infuriating is that the mods here seem to be on vacation
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know, as an American who doesn’t do sports, I had no idea why Sword and Shield had Team Yell as the villains when they’re just a bunch of weirdly obsessive fans of a trainer.
And then a friend in the UK explained it with a handful of photos very similar to this. Question answered.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Average football people behaviour
Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
average stadium fan
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s probably good Americans aren’t big football fans because they would celebrate like this but with guns too.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Philadelphia has to grease the light poles because Philly fans riot after basically every game, especially when they win.
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Will you stop with this hypothetical shit, there are actual, real things to be critical about
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sounds like a problem that would solve itself
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
I just want to know how the hypothetical americans got their guns to europe.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Have you not seen what sheep americans are?
sanguinepar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Absolute nonsense. By far the majority of football fans want nothing to do with the kind of pricks who do this sort of thing.
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
A good number are like this though. I used to live next to the stadium in Bulgaria and on game days we locked ourselves inside because it’s not safe with these roving mobs of hooligans. People get attacked, raped, they sweet destroy everything in their path. It didn’t matter what country they were from, a good number are always like this.
webp@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Imagine if migrants did it