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• andyburke@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We figured out scarcity 12,000 years ago.

  You can tell because we had time to start writing shit down.

  Everything since then has been the people with mental issues hoarding the resources causing problems instead of sharing like normal humans.

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  • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In other words, yeah, a job is way more likely to be a useless joke than actually contributing to humanity.

    But you're supposed to pretend so they can buy another yacht.

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    • forkDestroyer@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now if we could just develop something that allows us to get clean food, water, and shelter without relying on an external system run by these sociopaths…

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• daannii@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m going to post this fyi just in case because it’s related.

  Do not use job posting websites to find jobs.

  They just steal your information plus full of scams.

  Here is how you find actual job openings.

  Go to individual company websites and navigate to their “careers” or “join our team” page.

  Yes it’s more work as you have to make a list of companies that have the kind of work you are looking for and then manually go to each of their websites.

  But you are wasting your time using job hosting sites like monster or any of those other ones.

  The posts are made by bots and scammers.

  And less and less legitimate companies use them for that same reason as well.

  If you need ideas for companies , I suggest opening up Google maps and looking around for companies near you and then spread out.

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  • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yup. I have cobcluded that indeed.com is a sham

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    • LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There might be a kernel of truth to what you’re saying

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    • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  Man, I just can’t 😥

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• Waterpumpee@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have 2 bachelors. Had to do the second because first’s field wasnt hiring by the time i finished. Second now gets automated by AI.

  Basically got hit by 2 historic recessions by the time i finished each.

  I’d strongly emphasize doing trade/care as of now. You hear the troubles the tech ppl have getting hired? I bet 90% of office jobs get automated with having cheap developers + AI.

  Robots which go to ppls homes and repair plumbing or electricity is still 50-200 years away.

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  • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know someone who is in trades, unfortunately it’s not all roses there, either. Only so many electricians are needed. They seem happy to get work when they can get it, but it isn’t always a stable income.

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    • Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mechanic work is still alright. Yeah, the field is saturated, but the pool is like 80% drunks/unreliable. If you’re even mildly responsible and know your way around wrenches and cutting and hacking on steel, you’ll go far. That said, you don’t have far to go. Everyone old either died or quit and the last one is your boss.

      Once you’re in a shop, getting paid, bonding with the crew and settling in, it’s extremely stable. I’m a forklift mechanic at <redacted>, but any experience with any form of truck or carts carries from job to job. The pay is ‘meh’ but it’s enough to live on, buy drugs and a hobby or two. No home or retirement for us, though unless you own a shop.

      so… own a shop?

      Those types of mechanics know everybody or have a group of clients already,… and they can afford property. Who can afford property? They can, apparently. You could do mobile mechanic work and/or do roadside assistance for insurance companies, but there’s hoops to that too.

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    • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      HVAC is booming right now. That’s about the only bright side of the planet getting hotter.

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  • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I give it ~15 years but true

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, same as self driving trucks. Been 15 years away for 15 years now.

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  • forkDestroyer@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Everyone join trades just in time for trades markets to be packed. Looks like a race to the bottom tbh. They’ll pay us as little as they can.

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• phar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean…when I was 23 I worked shit jobs for a while too until I found an industry I liked. Now I have a good job. But it takes years, they don’t just hand it to you when you graduate undergrad.

  It would be nice if the lower end jobs paid better, that’s the bigger issue. Pay people fair wages.

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  • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m in my mid-30s. When I was 23 I had a master degree and got offered 2 positions that I hadn’t even applied to - both starting positions with good pay in my chosen field. When my boss was 23 he got offered a professor position at a good uni because he happened to share an office with the guy they were hoping to hire, so they hired him as well (?!). In my parents life time, neither applied to a job and got rejected.

    Times have changed drastically, even from just 10 years ago.

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    • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, the Boomers give the typical Boomer advice of “just walk in and give the manager a firm handshake” … because for them, in their time, that actually worked.

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    • Fishy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So it’s possible for both things to be true.

      You (and me) had it hard when 23 and harder compared to the boomers (I had to do shitty unpaid internships to get ahead (on top of work not in my industry to service) which was a huge gamble looking back). But 10-15 years have passed and it’s even harder now and I couldn’t recommend that pathway to younger people — cause if they’d do an internship, they won’t get recruited.

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  • wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Accurate. I didn’t begin building an actual career until mid-30s. Before that it was “unskilled” (term used loosely) labor and service.

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• CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  1.) Go find a temp agency, apply to get some job, any job, in a fabrication shop or machine shop.

  2.) Show up every day mostly sober, even if you’re sweeping the floor or running a grinder.

  3.) Take an interest in thr equipment. Learn about it. Learn how to use calipers and a tape measure.

  4.) Eventually they will train you on a machine. Maybe a mill, maybe a lathe, maybe a plasma cutter or brake or laser. Learn how to run it, learn how to run some of the other machines.

  5.) Keep learning and never want for a job again.

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  • CaptainMan251@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Better plan:

    1. Slowly take the parts of each individual machine

    2. find a secret lair to bring said parts

    3. build a suit

    4. fly over the corporate and political leaders, and shit on them.

    I think that may be less feasible though. We’ll go with your idea, for now.

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re going to build some kind of suit, you’d want the machines in the metal shop to be intact.

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most annoying is that it is actually quite simple to bulk-learn the basics of all that shit in a 1 week structured course, but you have to play politics instead, before they let you be useful.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good plan.

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    • forkDestroyer@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If the initial job pays you enough to live, sure.

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• Gates9@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose

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  • CaptainMan251@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People start revolution when they get hungry and desperate.

    But for the Americans, I feel like most of them will just give up - actually give up - and do nothing for how jaded and worthless they feel. Its disgusting to see what their leaders and oligarchs have done to them.

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, we really were a disappointing species, weren’t we?

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  • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He has mom’s furnished basement to lose. OP is golden, just chill until parents pass away and then inherit the house, he’s not revolting against shit ever.

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• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s wrong with trade-schools?

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  • Glemek@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For real, trade school did me better than most of my peers, but people definitely have some stigma around it for some reason.

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because colleges pushed the “without a degree, you’ll be flipping burgers and living in your mom’s basement”. When the reality is, trades make bank.

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nothing in particular but, for me, I spent 8 years learning to do a thing and now I won’t even be given an initial interview. It’s the “what the fuck was the point?” of it all.

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• Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Really depends on the type of degree he got and the major.

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  • TheRealShadeSlimmy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t regret my major (music education), even though I’m not using it in my current career. If I had to do it over again though, I think I could have been a good electrician.

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    • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s really not easy to predict what is going to be needed in the future. I’m trying to tell my kids to be mindful of how the industry is progressing and to keep options open as well as trying to building skills needed such as reading comprehension.

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    • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can still be an electrician!

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• Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The job market is a lie, there is no market except a market for minimum wage/gig labor. Everything else higher than that requires a human connection and you get hired by someone looking for a friend they can chill with at work.

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  • onceandfuturealice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I got my software engineering job by cold applying through the company’s website straight out of school in late 2024…

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    • blackberry28@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did u have any significant experience in Software Engineering from like, private projects? Cos otherwise that’s like winning the lottery, to exaggerate a bit lol

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• BenLeMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Trades are great for breaking into the job market but you MUST have an exit strategy by age 35. No body (sic) lays tiles until age 67.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you serious? I know plenty of guys in their sixties still doing floor work. I have never heard of a guy transitioning out at 35, but it is probably not a bad idea if you can swing it.

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    • BenLeMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, Doomsider, I’m serious. I happen to know plenty of guys who never made it to their sixties doing that kind of stuff. As in, I work with people whose health has failed to the degree that they cannot continue in their line of work.

      And this is one of the most common things I’m seeing. Craftsmen who never invested in education or any kind of further qualification and are suddenly unable to work. Many are in their forties but I’m also getting lots of men in their mid-fifties. You might get lucky and make it well past forty as a craftsman.

      But even just the pain and discomfort of the slipped discs, ruined knees, or carpal tunnel syndromes that these people get should give anyone reason to think twice about trying to make it all the way to retirement without shifting from pure physical labor to something else - be it as an instructor, salesperson, or manager. Anything that lessens the physical burden.

      The 35 figure I gave was about having a plan by then. It might take a while to set in motion but I firmly believe it’s best to start developing it sooner rather than later.

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• steveLeo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  40 with a psych degree and I sell patio furniture for an anemic wage, but in this job market, I’m grateful to have what I have. A growing cross section of Americans are living out of their cars. Could always be worse

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• Contextual_Idiot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nobody likes you when your 23…

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• tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If there’s no jobs in your field then definitely study a trade instead

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• Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fucking sick and tired of hearing Americans removed and moan. Yeah, your shitty circumstances are because of your garbage country, do something about it.

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does their shitty instance really censor the word bitch?

    What a silly place you come from.

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    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah how dare we protect women, lol.

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  • LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You seem confrontational

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    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thanks for noticing!

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  • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bro, I live in the UK and we have the exact same problem

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    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And I’m sick of that too. Rise up

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• impairedimperator@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you have to pay to go to grad school that’s the school’s way of saying you don’t belong there.

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was planning to secretly gather supplies and run off to a certain remote mountain region to try and live around there, but some emotional blackmail, and an upcoming ADHD diagnosis later…well, still on my mind.

  If I had an actual tribe, it’d make more sense. But society is bad enough to considering going on an one-way trip to some remote bumfuckville, at least I’d have freedom for the rest of my short life.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If nobody will hire you, hire yourself. There are a lot of micro-businesses you can start with little to no money, especially online. Use your imagination, do some research, and give it a try. People are creating new Internet businesses every day, and succeeding.

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  • Bacano@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, consumer, the problem is you. If you just leverage the techno-fuedalism in your favor, you too, can find stability in an unstable system.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t say the problem was YOU, I’m saying don’t sit around and wait for the Nazis to save you, they won’t save you.

      Save yourself, claim your own autonomy, make your own decisions.

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man I am in precisely the same spot. Where did we go wrong bro

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• Obnomus@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thats me dawg 🥀

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• tigermountain@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So he both can’t and can get a job?

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  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A decent paying job

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• Phoenix3875@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  > still living with parents > wasting days jacking off

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