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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And he also learnt how to hold his phone horizontally. Truly a journey of self-discovery.

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    • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hiis shift in perspective was multi-layered

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    • MrKoyun@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Truly the better improvement of the two. Death to vertical filming!

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      • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Horizontal band member here. If I have to take a photo of a wardrobe, my whole self, a jumping giraffe or the Empire States Building, you can be sure as heck I’ll hold the phone vertically. The only reason for me to take a horizontal photo of my fridge is when it fell on my foot.

        Same thing goes vice versa: vertically filming a scenery, a dish, my mom’s panties or a seesaw is plain dumb, unless there’s something else that justifies the awful framing.

        BUT when you make a video for the purpose of uploading it to sites like YouTube… You can’t convince me vertical would make more sense. I understand that it’s the same problem if it’s a vertically aligned app (I could go on a 3 day rant about Instagram not allowing horizontal - or any - full screen on desktop), but decent portals do it properly. If you have a phone and you want to watch vertical stuff, problem solved. If you have a phone and want to watch horizontal stuff, just rotate your damn screen, it’s a no-brainer. But when you have a monitor, you can’t (always) just turn in 90 degrees and watch vertical stuff full screen.

        Because of lazy uploaders AND lazy management/devs, there are countless of cases where a full screen video has actual content on less than 10% of the screen, because a horizontal video was uploaded to a vertical site, then you open it on a horizontal monitor and it plays like

        
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    • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So I guess it’s either hold your phone flat or the earth is flat, but not both. The orientation change when he changed.

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Flat earth is one of those things that’s so ignorant that I don’t even get mad at them. I just feel sad for them.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The only issue I have with flat earthers is the arrogance. The rest is ignorance that we can deal with if they allow us.

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    • zqps@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That used to be broadly my view, until I watched Dan Olson’s In Search of A Flat Earth, in which he explores the worldview in which this “opinion” persists and why.

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  • MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am entirely convinced the flat earth movement consists of 90% pranksters who are doing it for shits and giggles and 10% bona fide contrarian retards who falsely believe they’re in good company.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think it’s more like 10% grifters, 90% dupes.

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      • peripheralneuropathy@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What’s the grift angle? People make money believing that shit?

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I work with a guy who is convinced the earth is flat and space is fake and all the governments know it and that’s why planes aren’t allowed to ever fly over Antarctica or something.

      But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

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      • nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

        top kek

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I worked with someone who seriously claimed that covid was produced by 5G towers, and also was a con by the government so they could inject nanobots into our blood via vaccines. He was never able to see the contradiction.

        He also relieved that if you speed in a rental car for some reason the police cannot pull you over. Boy was he wrong.

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      • MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I lol’d. We all have a coworker like that. Hell, he’s my supervisor.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i think you have the percentages wrong but the groups right. more like 1:3 pranksters:dipshits

      also, would you mind using a different word than retard? i don’t particularly like being grouped with flat earthers.

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    • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe started by pranksters then grifters realizes that can sell fake books and fake stuff like some fake tool that pretends to prove some false assumption

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        so you start with that fuzzy equality where you end up at 1=0 due to bad math. then you just start multiplying if by shit and it looks legitimate!

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  • Lucky_777@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In my experience the highly religious hold on to flat earth the most. Just another reason religion is cancer

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    woah. i never see this. like as a former cultist, your typical response is “not my circus, not my monkeys” (even if it is your circus and your monkeys. I wish i never started that whale cult)

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Whale cult? Sounds like story time 🍿

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  • elfpie@lemmy.eco.br ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    First video: I saw the light, don’t be fooled by the lies they tell you.

    Latest video: I saw the light, don’t be fooled by the lies they tell you

    Whatever generates more profit is what they believe.

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    • SaraTonin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Don’t quote me on this, but I think this guy was one of the people who went to the Arctic to see a 24 hour sunny day and actually accepted the evidence

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The conspiracy theorist YouTube space is oversaturated and it’s difficult to generate new content when you don’t really have anything new to bring to the table.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        wait. i just thought of something new i could bring to the table. but i need funding.

        I call it “Bigfoot’s Cross-continent RV Vacation”

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    • rangber@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you generate more profit by aligning with reality, I’ll say go for it

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  • xxxb@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    wait the meme works in reverse?

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🤡🔫🧑‍🚀

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        🧑‍🚀🔫🤡🌍

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  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m a flat spacer, I think spacetime is flat, continuous, and homogeneous therefore ensure any finite arrangement of energy is occurring infinite times in any direction you can point. Is there an atom for atom replica of the earth, it’s entire history, and me? Yup, infinitely many in any direction one can point, along with all other finite arrangements of energy.

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    • foo@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Everything is flat! The third dimension is all in your imagination. You are being manipulated by Big Dimension! Do your research!

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    • farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of our current knowledge of space and the matter within it bud

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      • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Current astrophysical data shows that the large-scale spatial geometry of our universe is flat, meaning parallel lines remain parallel and triangles add up to 180°. However, flatness does not strictly prove the universe is infinite; a flat, simply connected universe is mathematically infinite, but a flat, multiply connected universe (like a cylinder or a hyper-torus) could be finite.Observations of the Cosmic Microwave Background have measured this geometry with incredible precision, though slight margins for error still allow for the possibility that the universe curves on scales far larger than what we can observe.Whether the universe is finite or infinite remains an unresolved question in physics, though scientists generally use an infinite, flat model for standard cosmological calculations because it is mathematically simpler.

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      • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He isn’t wrong. With the assumption of homogenous, and infinite universe, basically everything is guaranteed to happen somewhere.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i want to argue this point but i’m not a spaceologist. how is its scedasticity? i only like homoscedastics. heteroscedastics can see themselves out.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Whoa there, easy with the heteroscedastophobia, buddy.

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don't think that makes sense mathematically speaking. To turn the state of a group of atoms into numbers that can be represented by a random experiment, one would need to use continuous (i.e. non-quantized) variables. A continuous variable can take an uncountably infinite number of values, so it can't be modeled by a countably infinite arrangement like the one you've described. It's kind of like how you can choose real numbers at random for all eternity and never get the number 7.

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      • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Reality isn’t continuous, at least as far as we are aware. Past the plank scale at least our models don’t work. Infinite information to encode everything seems like it would all just collapse into a black hole immediately so having some limit somewhere makes sense at least in that way.

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    • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Congratulations, you’re immortal, and with parallel copies.

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    • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is this like a higher abstraction level version of looking at a mirror pointed at another mirror type situation?, or help me visualize your idea better

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      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If I'm understanding them right, it's more like this: Imagine flipping a coin and recording the result an infinite number of times. Then your record will include any finite sequence of flips, because any event with a nonzero probability no matter how unlikely will happen if given infinite opportunities. For example you'll get a sequence where Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet is written in binary with heads as 1 and tails as 0 and vice versa. By an easy corollary of this, any finite sequence of flips will be repeated an infinite number of times. What this person is saying is that they believe the universe is like this; if you decide the location and energy of every electon, neutron and proton in a section of the universe with the same mass as the solar system there's a nonzero chance it'll contain an exact replica of the Earth and everything on it, hence in an infinite homogeneous universe there will be an infinite number of such replicas. Now I don't think this makes sense, because the chance of getting such a replica probably is zero (in the same way that the probability of choosing a random real number and getting 7 is zero), but this is the logic I think.

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      • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nope just one really big (infinitely large) universe. Eventually it starts looping. Like a small example, if I have 5 cups and 10 balls and I put all the balls into a cup eventually I get more than one ball in a cup because there’s more balls than cups. For any finite volume there’s a finite number of ways to arrange energy so with an infinite universe with infinite stuff it just starts looping eventually just like the balls in the cups situation.

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  • Erna_muse@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is the problem with gossip or idle chatter. Things you think are jokes or just weird culture is actually seeding by psyops or con men.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      look all i’m saying is that horses don’t look like horses on film that’s why we need to borrow and paint your dog.

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  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Applauded for pulling his head out of his ass. Good news America - we’ve failed.

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    • gerryflap@feddit.nl ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Better than keeping his head up his ass. Conspiracy groups can often also be part of community and identity. Changing your mind, therefore, might mean losing a social circle and possibly status that you thought to have. He probably though that he was smarter than 90% of the population, and now he feels like an idiot.

      In that scenario, this is the best outcome and it should be applauded. If we don’t reward people for escaping and admitting their wrong, then they could easily get trapped. Why change your mind when it means that nobody likes you anymore and everyone thinks you’re an idiot?

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The cynical part of me thinks that he’s just trying to make bank as a reformed flat earther, he changed his entire world view in a period of a month. There’s probably more money to be made there. Much easier to get sponsorship deals if you don’t come off as a crazy person.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        yeah, like going “bigfoot hunting” with your buddies and camcorder. Tell me you don’t believe in Bigfoot when I’ve got the suit halfway on and you don’t get to come on the next road trip.

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    • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Anyone that can learn from their mistakes and take in new information that was against their initial beliefs is worthy of praise.

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  • Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What happened 6 months ago to show this man the light?

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    • 1984@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He got laid.

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      • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I imagine at the exact moment of climax, he was transferred through the cosmos for what felt like an eternity, seeing all its wonders, Gorillaz Empire Ants coming from everywhere at full volume.

        From the lucky partner’s perspective it was all over in twenty seconds and he was sobbing uncontrollably for fifteen minutes after.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So you know, this first surfaced years ago

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wanna know too

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  • WanderWisley@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I also like that his views increased as he became more aware of the bs he fell for.

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think Mark Sargent has quietly figured it out, but he makes a living being the “flat earth guy”, and doesn’t know what else to do with his life.

    What really surprised me about Behind the Curve was how smart a lot of those guys were.

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    • Hasherm0n@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The smarter someone is, the better they’re able to rationalize what they believe. Admitting one is wrong isn’t usually a matter of intelligence, it’s a matter of pride (or money).

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    • 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This guy is STST, not Mark Sargent.

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      • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But this guy also has not quietly figured it out. It seems that was a very public process.

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