I don’t want to play games that compare and compete to gambling, crypto and porn. Sounds like bad games to me. Good games don’t care about gambling and crypto.
Xbox makes more leadership changes, hiring analyst who said games were losing the attention battle with gambling, crypto and porn as chief strategy officer
Submitted 3 weeks ago by iamthetot@piefed.ca to games@lemmy.world
https://www.eurogamer.net/xbox-hires-analyst-asha-sharma
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thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I bet crack cocaine is more addictive too
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
What an odd statement. Xbox is in direct competition with porn and crypto? Do they know any of those things? Do they think people are just like “hm, 60 dollars. I could game, buy porn, or crypto. Hmmmmmm”
Anything to avoid looking inward. Their IPs have empty corporate souls because they’re made by souless corporate entities. Halo, Gears, Starfield, all shallow empty stories, and gamers are tired of it.
Of course they don’t have souls so they assume gamers done either. Couldn’t be that were gaming to enjoy a story or feel something deeply, no we’re literally debating on gambling or video games. Jesus Christ so out of touch.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
let’s be real: it’s not a coincidence that sports gambling is an exploding market and sports games are shrinking. they are targeting the same people.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
I’ll concede there, sports gaming and sports gaming are very overlapping venn diagrams
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They just hired this guy, and he made those statements before that. Besides there very much is a customer they’re losing to these other things, and they’re the largest market segment in gaming. It’s just not your demographic.
BC_viper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I cant wait to get my crypto based porn casino Xbox game.
64bithero@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No no everyone things are way better now. They hit caps lock before they type Xbox now. So the world is fixed.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Just look at Stellaris, Factorio or Rimworld players to know this is false. What modern games are clearly missing is genocide and crimes against humanity.
thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Been playing Stellaris since literal day one. Quality of new dlc had gone down, but there is definitely heart and soul put into it.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As a player of Stellaris, Stellaris players are crazy. They spend too much money on the games on DLC, that game has like more than $500 in DLC probably. Its insane.
I just play multiplayer with someone who… acquired… the DLC lol.
lorty@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
They don’t spend that money in one go, and a new player shouldn’t either. Learning the game is already pretty daunting, adding dozens of DLC mechanics will only make it harder.
tal@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
They spend too much money on the games on DLC, that game has like more than $500 in DLC probably. Its insane.
The Sims 4 is currently up to $1,596.89 with all DLC on Steam.
DCS is up to $4,368.28 with all DLC on Steam (though in fairness, I think that it’s very likely that almost all players are not getting all planes, but rather picking specific ones that they’re interested in playing.)
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Gaming has gotten so huge that investors want to target the most lucrative segments of their market. It’s not that you can’t make money with games. It’s that exploiting addiction is better at wealth extraction.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Even if you like all 3 of the other things, it doesn’t mean you need it in gaming. It’s not as though porn thinks it needs to blend in other attention competitions. A lot of games have math overlap. Gambling is for conning people bad at math.
In summary, this all seems like bad directions.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The report isn’t trying to say they need to add those thing to gaming.
I don’t understand how this whole thread has misunderstood the report point so thoroughly…
The report is saying those 3 things are now more popular and have a higher amount of attention given to them than gaming and that publishers need to do better in order regain attention.
The prior parts of the report deal with how publishers have effectively cancelled and shut down so much that there is little to play.
demonsword@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gambling is for
conning people bad at mathexploiting people with poor impulse controllorty@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Gambling has nothing to do with understanding probability or not.
smoker@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Of course it does. If you understand probability, you won’t do it.
Asafum@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Incoming xboxXXX?
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sex with Stalin on Xbox when?
dan1101@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gambling on porn with crypto NFTs. This is the future you micro soft dummies.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s the only strategy MSFT hasn’t tried yet.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My Xb One is already named XXXBONE
andrewmsc@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
lmao they are blaming anything but their ridiculous online membership prices. nintendo has no problem selling consoles and games
nicpicname@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
As if Nintendo doesn’t fuck over their consumers
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I want gaming to be a health business that makes it long term but going after crackheads addicted to gambling, porn, and get rich quick schemes ain’t it
warmaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Classic Microsoft, hire a competent person to make the unit great and then proceed to sabotage everything.
tal@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
That doesn’t really seem like mutually-exclusive stuff.
You can definitely make video games that incorporate pornography.
Gambling is probably also generally-available, though some locales have pretty restrictive law on online gambling.
I don’t know about crypto, but if “crypto” in this context is effectively “gambling by trying to trade cryptocurrencies”, I’d think that that basically falls into the gambling category.
The article also mentions TikTok. I don’t know how readily you can do that — TikTok is maybe the closest analog to television in the Internet era, and video games are something you actively participate in. It might be possible to introduce categories of mostly-passive video games, where the player has some limited degree of interactivity but is mostly watching what’s going on, and where there aren’t hard real-time demands on their attention. Like, a game that you play while simultaneously eating dinner or something.
lorty@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Auto-play mobile games not only already exist but are super popular.
tal@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yeah…idlers are a category for the desktop too, but IME they also aren’t typically oriented towards being “TV-like”, something that you’d watch.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_game
Incremental games are a video game subgenre characterized by the incremental accumulation of in-game resources, and gradual, often exponential progression through repetitive actions or automation. Incremental games that emphasize active input, such as repeatedly clicking a button to generate resources, are also called clicker games, while games that center on automation and progress that continues with minimal player interaction are also called idle games. Many incremental games combine both elements.[1]
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
where the player has some limited degree of interactivity but is mostly watching what’s going on
Telltale games has entered the chat.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ah yes, the new Xbox. with blackjack and hookers.
scratch that, just play blackjack and fuck hookers.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Well, Microsoft. It’s been fun. 🫡
HubertManne@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
as a matter of fact. forget the crypto.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Games are not losing attention. AAA publishers have been copy/pasting the same game for 2 decades.
Their greed made them risk averse.
Peffse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
All-New IP PRAGMATA Surpasses One Million Units Sold in Two Days!
Every single executive on hearing the news:
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ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pragmata isn’t the game competing with crypto, gambling, porn, and TikTok. That would be the likes of EA’s Not-FIFA, Assassin’s Creed, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Destiny, NBA 2K; the kind of game that sells to people who don’t play many different video games.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
But have you heard of live service games? Gamers will continually pay for a 10-hour game with mechanics designed to trap lonely people with compulsive addiction issues for 5000 per year. Imagine all the billions that we will make from those
suckersgamers./s
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Its not just “risk averse”, its easy money. Look at Forza 6. Or the dozen different sports games that get rehashed every year. They sell like crazy.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The location, modes, and featured cars are continually changing in Forza. I’m lagging on the titles and will probably skip Forza Horizon 5, but FH6 has great reviews on launch. While I can guess you aren’t into cars/racing like that, I guess I can’t really differentiate it from human sports games as much as I thought I could. A new football game has the same field shape, the same rules, and mostly the same teams, but just updates the roster and maybe background appearance? I don’t get it. But I can see the correlation to racing games if driving is a chore (not me) and if you aren’t up to date on the latest trends in cars (me). I guess both really come down to whether or not you can empathetically experience the game as something you actually want to do.
LostWanderer@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
That is Microsoft's ultimate problem, aside from how they started their current console cycle. They are too afraid to do something different, closing down studios that did something different and didn't meet unhinged sales metrics. I think that their studios need to be allowed to cook and work on their specialty, in order to bring something awesome to the table.
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bringing awesome to the table is not compatible with Corporations who are legally obligated to be risk averse for the shareholders.