Good way to ensure that whatever regime rises from the ashes will be even more backwards than the last.
Killing the intellectual future of Iran. Science has no borders.
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turdas@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I mean, that is their goal.
If anything, I think this will motivate the government to build even more.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All they are doing is creating generations of future enemies.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
one thousand new hamas’es, so they can continue to have someone to point to while they do their genocides
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They don’t need hamas to commit genocide. See e.g. the west bank. They will find an excuse anyway, at least hamas actually puts up a resistance.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Bold of you to assume the US and Israel will last generations in their current forms.
The Nazis didn’t create generations of future enemies for Germany.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
which is why authoritarians in thier last grasp of power, is trying everything to distract thier own population, and others from an internal uprising.
Tinidril@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
No country lasts generations in a static form. That’s not a thing.
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
but they will be poor and potentially malnutrition and potentially civil warring for the foreseeable future.
At least that seems to be the hope
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Gotta love how this is never applied to Hamas, Hezbollah or anyone of the other extremist groups with slogans such as “death to the west”.
Pro-tip: These people hated you before and will hate you after, not because who you are or what you did, but simply because you aren’t them. That’s how it works.
Tinidril@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Why on earth would they not want death to the west? It’s not like we haven’t deserved it. Israel is way more extreme than either Hamas or Hezbollah. That’s what happens when you create an ethnostate, arm them to the teeth, and back them unconditionally for generations.
Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I take some slogans everyday instead of death and destruction.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They also bombed the largest factory producing anti-cancer drugs and other medical facilities.
More than 600 schools have also been hit.
The USSA is as bad as the Shitraeli genociders.
Absolute monsters.zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
The US has done this exact shit off its own steam before, no need to fall back on the Israelis as defense. They utterly destroyed the North of Korea during their genocidal anti-communist war, for example.
TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
“This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago” - a totally normal leftist response to a war crime happening today
Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
What a way to interpret a comment that said nothing like that. They just pointed out how the comprehensive bombing campaign resembles the level of destruction done to another sovereign nation.
Kuori@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
genocide supporters get the woodchipper
Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Fuck off lib. You’ll be saying this exact same thing in a few years about Iran and pretending that the United States of Pissreal was right in doing what it’s doing today.
Your obnoxious settler states won’t last long. Count the days
Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
“This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago”
Yeah because famously only the DPRK’s ruling family was in North Korea; when you attack a country that everyone cries about and calls a dictatorship, famously only the ruling people are hurt by it (and it’s spelled ‘favorite’; what are you English?)
to a war crime happening today
If you have the mental capacity to understand that tons of innocent people get hurt by these demonic bombing campaigns, try and see if you can stretch it further to imagine what it would look like when you do it to countries in Asia as well (do some warming up exercises first, you don’t want to hurt yourself)
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago
Are you referring to North Korea? The DPRK has a cult of personality thing going on, for sure. But that hadn’t developed yet, by the time of the Korean war. Rather the DPRK was a really quite vibrant multi-party Socialist democracy.
The overwhelming dominance of the WPK, and the ostensible sidelining of other parties and organizations in the Supreme People’s Assembly only starts to occur after the war. With the genocidal bombing of the Korean peninsula by the United States, and subsequent economic and diplomatic isolation, being the primary engine which drove political centralization.
Compare the results of 1948 SPA election results with those of 1957.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Israel is the enemy of all humanity. Earth will not be in peace until these religious lunatics are destroyed.
smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Including the ones in the whitehouse
Graymouzer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Primarily the ones there. Hegseth thinks he is starting a crusade to bring about Armageddon.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Add Saudi Arabia, they were in on Iraq and they placed Iran in their crosshairs.
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
More UAE than Saudi, but yes. MBZ is an Israeli puppy, MBS is just a moron.
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
I mean yes but they’re just following the US.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I remember them saying and acting like Iraq was always a place of poor literacy, conflict, and poverty and a stone age culture.
Without ever acknowledging that this was basically the point (which many said in the lead up to the war in 2002) of the Iraq war.
Soulg@ani.social 2 weeks ago
Oh god who let .ml and hexbear into these comments
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Muting those instances made Lemmy a lot more pleasant. Highly recommended
alphabethunter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And thus, debate is dead, and your cozy bubble is formed. I get banning troll users, but banning a whole instance is a step towards killing what the federation is supposed to stand for.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
they can smell russia/china criticism and they come like rabid dogs.
mlg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a dumb dumb feddit and world user but I actually don’t see any tankie comments here lol
Koarnine@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Nah legit, the anti-tankie brigade puts out their delusion before the tankies even show… every time
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Also the USA
Why does everyone hate us? We are good people, nice people, nobody should hate us!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Hate the government and the people who support it, not all Americans!
Soulg@ani.social 2 weeks ago
This is the way
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Americans have been supporting this kind of shit for decades, they’re all complicit at this point.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Is it, though?
Who voted for him? And more importantly, who did not vote at all? Because all those tards that decided for whatever reason not to vote got us here as well and with that group added, we’re talking the vast majority of Americans.
Add to that that the best resistance we’ve seen so far were the failed and sad little no kings protests… Seriously, please look at europe on how to protest. These protests in the US did squat, nothing changed, it barely hit the news anymore.
So yeah, between Iranians being born into a theocratic dictatorship and Americans who could and should know better, pretending to “rule the free world”, I feel Americans carry a lot more responsibility for the actions of their government than Iranians
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
99.99% of americans then. I have no respect for the good american people, they clearly have no will to fight.
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Everyone means your leaders, not you. I think.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
We totally never hurt anyone or ever intended yo hurt any.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The United States of ISISrael
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
also following PUTINS lead, considering this was the pretext of lifting sanctions russian oil.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Its a war of extermination.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Yes but some of them chanted Death to America – completely uncalled for – so what goes around comes around
merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
StillAlive@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Completely uncalled for
Someone doesn’t know a lick of history.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Science is also how they can cause such devastation. Maybe all you scientists should stop empowering the assholes who murder people?
reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Science didn’t put assholes in control. It is the anti science US, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers who put them in.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But science builds the machines of war. Science unlocks the power inevitably used by those leaders to make war. Scientists are not free from responsibility just because they don’t pull the trigger. They enable the building of the entire gun.
baines@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
no one is going to put up with you advocating genocide
minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your legs must be very strong to have made such a great leap in reasoning.
Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hi Ted! Didn’t know they let you have the net in there!
Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
I agree. Iran needs to bomb tf out of Israeli universities and military plants MUCH more than they already are. Israel must never ever be able to pose a threat to anyone in the region. Neuter them completely
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Correction, that is not Israel’s goal. Israel’s goal is to expand their own territory, and it should never be allowed.
If Israel’s goal was the collapse of the Iranian state then that would be admirable because it’s a horrible fucking state. But, again, it is not.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
A failed state doesn’t just imply the fall of a government, it refers to a degradation of the conditions of a country such that effective governance by anyone is impossible for a period. Think like has happened in Somalia, or Haiti. I’m not going to claim that the Iranian government is a particularly admirable one, but that kind of condition would be even worse for the people living there, and the chances of that process resting in something significantly better when the country finally recovers again aren’t terribly high.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
TBH I think even total anarchy, with roving bands of raiders, might be better than a country that wages war on every neighbor and kills thousands of protestors in a short time period. The fact that they ally themselves with China is just more on the pile.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So you’re implying that Russia’s attack on Ukraine should have never been allowed as well - but I have yet to see any American 🇺🇸 troups there.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
I see their long range missiles there, despite every effort by the compromised Trump admin.
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Thats a cute narrative, but unfortunately it doesn’t align with reality in the slightest-
- Israel gifted the Sinai peninsula to Egypt in return for peace
- Israel attempted to return Gaza to Egypt after the `67 war, Egypt refused to take it back
- Israel attempted to return the West Bank to Jorden after the `67 war, Jordan refused to take it back (aka the “Allon plan”, google it)
- Israel has entered Lebanon multiple times to clear out the PLO and Hezbollah’s forward positions which were attacking Israel. Every single time it has pulled back to international borders once the threat was removed.
- Israel offered the PLO a 2-state solution on 98% of the land it demanded (Gaza/WestBank). PLO declined.
- Israel unilaterally exited Gaza in 2005 and handed it over to the Palestinians to self-govern. The Palestinians immediately used their newfound independence to attack Israel.
All of the above is public history which is a single Google search away. Be better.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
That would be a really great argument, if not for the fact that Palestine has been shrinking in land area for decades and that Netanyahu’s regime helped Iran supply funds and weapons to Gaza.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He is not satisfied destroying education in the just US.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I mean they already killed their own.
Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Ideas are more powerful than weapons. They don’t want their enemies to have weapons, why would they allow them to have ideas?
liuther9@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wish israel will be put in huge gas chamber.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Zionists, the word is zionists.
Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Iran needs to stop holding back and demolish all universities in Israel. This is fucking ridiculous. They’re setting your country back decades if not more. If you’re still sticking to some abstract morality while the future of your people is stolen from them, you’re a fucking idiot.
PolarPirate@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Holding back” isn’t really what they’re doing. It’s hard to justify attacking a school when doing so puts your already diminished resources at risk. Every time they launch a missile that launcher platform is highlighted for attack just like we’ve seen in Ukraine, but arguably even worse.
If you’re going to risk losing valuable assets then you have to justify it with valuable targets.
chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
I think military bases and data centers make better targets.
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
universities are also part of the military infrastructure.
Blakey@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Destroying Israeli universities wouldn’t actually advance Iran’s cause but could well lose them some of the small amount of international support they’re enjoying. I’m not saying they should be any more scrupulous than anyone else, or than they’re currently being, but they should, and presumably would prefer to, concentrate their efforts on targets that could actually impact their enemy’s ability to harm them.
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“holding back” lol they’re doing the best they can. It’s not their fault that this has been the most one-sided “war” in modern history. Oh wait, it actually is their fault. THEY LOST. cope harder.
PetoniousRex@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
O.K. call me super nieve but and I mean a HUGE BUT, what if it became an actual working democracy? I know it sounds absolutely coo coo insane-o-style but a democracy with rules for the almost but not quite equal capitalism we once had. A regulated capitalism that doesn’t squash indevidual , independent voice. Or smother it with Hush money.
Arigion@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You are probably not aware that in the 1950 they were on a good way and the usa and britain overthrew their elected government and installed the radical regime because democratic Iran wanted to sell their oil by themselves? (Very shortend version, please search for details and nuances by yourself)
baines@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
regardless if what anyone might think of Iran, this is evil
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
What anyone thinks of Iran should pale in comparison to what they think of the US. Truly the most evil nation since Nazi Germany.
baines@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
did you forget Russia exists? or China?
Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Nothing Iran has ever done is even comparable to what Israel and the US have done in the past 3 years alone.
Of all the countries that need to be dissolved entirely as political entities, Israel and US are far higher on the list than Iran
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hello Iranian bot, nice to meet you.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
israel hae to make sure they weren’t out evillled (?) be iran