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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Funny thing is, if an armed populace is utterly incapable of doing a single damn thing as the gun banners say they are, WHY do the authoritarians in charge of these powerful modern military still banning guns?

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  • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can be non-peaceful and be non-violent.

    Disturb the fucking peace, you don’t need a gun for that. In fact having a gun with you might make things more dangerous.

    Nobody is shooting at ICE, weapons do not help. They only make you feel like you are prepared while achieving nothing.

    Now, spiking tires with nails, a car breaking down, blocking the street ICE wants to take, punching a nazi… that’s way more effective, easy and (slightly) safer.

    Fuck “the right to bear arms”, you don’t need legal weapons, do illegal shit, fuck their peace up. Do not let them sleep, eat or work. Be disturbing the peace, be gay, do crime. You do not need weapons, you don’t need violence, you do need to step out of line and stop being peaceful.

    Peaceful can be ignored.

    Look to the yellow vests in France for inspiration.

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  • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Arm” yourselves with gas masks, hardhats, traffic cones (if holes for air at the top, duct tape them shut.

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  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cops shouldn’t have assault rifles either, they’re not the military. I find the second amendment so fucking dumb. It’s to rise up against a tyrannical government. But since you have it, precisely now is the time to use it. Helloooow? Why don’t you use it? You have a tyrannical government full of pedophiles. All those decades full of innocent deaths, all so you can keep your precious second amendment, just in case you reach a point you are in now. Well, go ahaid then, prove all those deaths were worth it. Bunch of self-centered uneducated hypocrites.

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    • Azrael@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I agree with you. The issue is that the people who have been fighting to keep the second amendment are the ones who are siding with and enabling the government. The pro-second amendment people are the ones who voted for Trump in the first place.

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      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So? Are they the only ones allowed to buy guns? Or is the second amendment also for the Trump haters?

        When my government would turn complete authoritarian fascist, I would love it if I could just buy a gun in the local supermarket.

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    • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What is an assault rifle? I don’t think what non-military civilians or police carry qualify. I know a few grandfathered fully automatic rifles are out there but they cost like $40k and they’re mostly in the hands of collectors. Most guns are semi auto and semi auto rifles are great for hunting things like wild boar.

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      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most guns are semi auto and semi auto rifles are great for hunting things like wild boar fascists.

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    • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The interpretation of the 2nd amendment that the courts take never made sense to me. I clearly says states can have well-regulated militias, not that citizens must have rifles with 50rd drum magazines.

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

        Emphasis mine - obviously there’s more than one interpretation, but I think that if the intent was to only protect the rights of people to keep and bear arms if and only if they are members of some organized militia, it would have been clearly indicated by the text. It seems obvious to me that everything before that comma is explanatory, personally.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s because Antonin Scalia was a feckless hypocrite

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    COPY/PASTA

    In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.

    Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 rifle is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.

    I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.

    PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors and/or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. Suppressors might be out of reach for most but quality active and passive hearing protection is not.

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    • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Familiarity is important, training will save your life.

      Get an IFAK and go to a stop the bleed class https://www.stopthebleed.org/

      If you’re currently versed in Firearms and are able to start a chapter, or if you are lucky enough to live in an area with a local chapter the SRA is a good organization. However they are apparently fractured and their politics may not align. https://socialistra.org/

      https://www.blazingsword.org/ is better for LGBTQ+ anarchists that tend to not get along with Tankies.

      A more decentralized option could be a John Brown Gun Club https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club

      Good basis of organized tactics. The guide below is more about organized movement than direct fire. Below will NOT help you in a firefight as it relies on a much larger trained force than you are likely to have. Good to know what the bastards study though. https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B2F2837%20Rifle%20Squad%20Tactics.pdf?ver=2015-05-27-100939-710

      How to avoid getting balled up and kettled. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarch-ish-how-to-win-at-kettling-a-guide-for-non-policemen

      Sabotage guide from WW2 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184.txt.utf-8

      General armed defense https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/organizing-armed-defense-in-america

      How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources. https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/

      Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources

      Feel free to reach out for any other resources

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    • AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      what is up with so many people having buckees profile pics?

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      • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Irony

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    • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe I’m just old, but suppressors seem pointless to me. If I understand correctly, you need to use subsonic ammo to get the full effect, which pretty much negates the extra “stopping power” of rifles (or higher velocity handguns). Simple foam ear plugs, like many people wear to work, can be as good or better in terms of db reduction if going to a range or popping some off in “the back nine” if you’re fortunate. If you need to run to your gun in an emergency to save you’re own life, I don’t think you’d take the time to grab your hearing protection. Hearing impaired is better than dead. And you’re definitely not going to EDC active hearing protection. Perhaps I’m not understanding the benefits though. I see the benefits if it’s like your job or something (work at a range, are a rancher that shoots vermin/predators at night). I suppose if you’re training in some kind of militia to work in a squad, active hearing protection with integrated radio would be nice, but virtually nobody is doing that.

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      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Even with hearing protection protracted use of firearms still causes hearing damage. A suppressed firearm is going to cause less damage over time than an unsuppressed. Is it perfect? Nope, but it is better than nothing.

        I recently watched a video on the differences of a suppressed and unsuppressed weapon in the field. You can tell a difference certainly, and again, it’s enough to reduce harm to your hearing.

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It really is a damn shame suppressors are illegal in California.

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      • French75@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s moronic. We demand lower noise in most products, but demand higher noise in guns because we can’t distinguish Hollywood bullshit from reality. I think most CA Dems would accept the premise that reducing injurious noise levels while participating in a legal activity is a good idea, but institutionally they’d never give an inch on gun laws.

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Suppressors also make your aim better

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I like not being a gringo.

    I like living in a normal country.

    I like living in a country that’s not controlled by a cabal of pedofiles.

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    • aldhissla@piefed.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ok to points 1. and 2.

      But where is this Shangri La you speak of?

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      • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The what?

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    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, no one is free of the influence of the US and its cabal of pedophiles.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gandhi

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    • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ghandi was non violent and unarmed. But he WAS NOT peaceful. His protests were absolutely poison for the colonial economy and he broke several laws and had stints in prison during his time.

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      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨29⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I’m reminded in this time that one of the reasons that Japan dare trying to invade the USA was “A gun behind every blade of grass.” Helicopters, planes, drones can’t hold positions. You need troops on the ground to hold a position to keep people in line. It’s hard to to do that when you can be shot from any direction.

        As well to me, if I’m facing the possibility of being killed execution style for just demonstrating or helping someone that was maced, I’d rather be armed. Even if I have little chance of surviving, that’s better than 0.

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    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spoiler, the British cared more about Indians than this administration cares about its citizens.

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who you gonna shoot? I’m serious. Stalin was a bankrobber. Haitians drove Napoleon’s army into the sea with machetes. The Black Panthers took several pigs off roll-call. What’s your plan, revolutionary?

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    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Not a stand up fight, there should be enough in a crowd that if they don’t feel safe trying to execute another person like they did Alex.

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    • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Im not american but hopefully nobody. Their whole rationality for having guns everywhere all the time is that if everyone has a gun nobody needs a gun.

      We, the rest of the world, think its a stupid idea, but if the government is literally killing people in the streets and declaring the murderers as heroes, its not looking so daft.

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      • Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For the first time in my life I have considered a gun. I agree with your comment, it’s typically something I don’t need or want. I don’t want my neighbours to want them or need them.

        But here we are and it’s terrible.

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      • mirshafie@europe.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They use the same rationale for international security. If everybody gas nuclear bombs, then nobody needs them. It’s insane doomsday evangelism dressed up as a debate club argument.

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      • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        How do you shoot children in school then?

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    • seathru@quokk.au ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Simply being prepared for the worst is a plenty fine plan. Just, actually be prepared, don’t just buy a gun and expect to know how to use it proficiently when the need arises.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I believe that I can go to the store and purchase a sense of security. Once I own a gun, I can indulge in revolutionary fantasies that aren’t complicated by material conditions.

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  • frank@lemmy.fraxoweb.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Doomed if you do. Doomed if you don’t. So might as well be a man and do what you believe in.

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    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      “Please guys, I know they’re killing us now, but if you arm up, they will still kill you. Take the high road, know that you did in your final moments as they’re beating you to death then execute you like Alex was.”

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  • AlexLost@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You all have guns, don’t see anyone using them but the popo? Way to stand against an aggressive state, eh!

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    • Soulg@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because we don’t all have guns, the data is skewed by the far right rednecks who each have like 20 guns

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, that whole second amendment thing turned out to be the joke we all thought. I’ve never known a nation to just roll over and take it as much as this bunch. They’re pathetic and their overlords obviously know it.

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      • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Or, and hear me out here, we’re really trying to not give dipshit the ammo he needs to deploy the military against us. Because when that happens, it’s game over.

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    • MxRott@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Where are you looking for the report coverage?

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    • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fun fact! If you’ve ever been involuntarily committed to like a psychiatric hospital you’re barred by Federal law from owning firearms! Some kinds of emergency and temporary holds are okay, but yeah because my wife had technically gotten involuntarily committed years ago before we met because she couldn’t make it to the hospital safely for it to be voluntary she can’t have them at all and it’s unclear if I’d be able to with my own history of mental health issues

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How did this work out for Alex Pretti? He’s the perfect example of how this shit will/would play out. Stop telling people to commit suicide ffs.

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    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Martin Luther King Jr. was only successful because he was the carrot, The Black Panthers were the stick. But tell me again how being armed is a bad idea entirely when it’s shown in history disarmed populations are just easier pickings.

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    • wpb@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No bro just roll over and take it bro pls I’m telling you

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      • Soulg@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So basically your answer is “no, go commit suicide”

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Renee Good didn’t have a gun and got killed anyways. It’s a good idea for everyone to arm themselves to fight fascism, believe it or not.

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      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Do you think her wife would have survived that trip if she had? Do you realize that Minnesota is doing it right and that we should follow their lead instead of criticizing them?

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Alex was a kind and caring individual, and if he thought he was going to die I bet he still wouldn’t have used his sidearm.

      I, on the other hand, am not a kind and caring individual. If someone rolls up on me aggressively, my instinct is to pull out and let god sort them out.

      that said, I have hyper situational awareness. I don’t put myself in compromising situations. I get myself out of them.

      I’m not a badass. I’m not a hero. I’m just a guy trying to come home to his family.

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      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I have no clue of what you’re trying to say.

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    • MTZ@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Make sure someone takes video of when you “fight back.” I’d love to see how it all plays out.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I just need a few Barrett m82s for squirrel hunting… It’s my right!

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe to make squirrel puree

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