Submitted 10 hours ago by sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social to [deleted]
There are endless discussion on the internet why pc gaming is superior than consoles and vice versa.
I don’t understand that there is a necessity to prove that one is better than the. Just play your game and let other gamers enjoy their game too.
Empathy exists in humans on a spectrum. Different people have different priorities. Accepting these 2 truths explains a lot of human behavior and history.
Why I hate console gaming: The limitations of consoles regarding the graphics and available buttons carry over to PC. Weapon wheels are a good example of that. Especially around the 2010s, when consoles were in the focus of the publishers, PC versions often felt like badly ported console games, including graphical and gameplay downgrades that weren’t necessary at all.
Why I hate mobile gaming: Microtransactions and the manipulation of the player that comes with them. They slowly crept into so many games. Sure, mobile gaming didn’t invent them, but it perfected them. Now even 70€ titles have a cosmetics store and a season pass on day one.
Why I hate PC gaming: The elitism, how awfully expensive building a PC got and the worst one: Cheaters. Cheaters that not only destroy the fun of other PC players, but of console players too with the advent of cross-platform multiplayer. It shames me that console players automatically turn off cross-platform, because they are afraid of PC cheaters.
I hate Consoles because of multiplayer paywalls and lack of crossplay on other platforms as well as locked down software
I hate mobile games because most are but t extort the user of their money with pay to win and gambling and there is generally the hardware limitations of phones and sometimes software limitations or locked down software
PC Gaming is better because you can build a system that meets your needs, upgrade it and swap out hardware along with being able to install ant operating system you want or even dual boot more than one operating system
I do kind of also dislike gaming laptops because you can only upgrade the ram in them, if you want a gaming laptop go with a framework ganing laptop as they have swappable parts excluding the cpu because the cpu is still soldered on because of cpu manufacturers though you can swap the main board
There’s a lot of hate for mobile because it does feel like literally millions of folks are abused and exploited by them. Sure, there’s neat games buried in the App Store/Google Play, but… the sheer volume of literal scams is unreal.
That, I get. I got no issue with the neat stuff though.
All the other snobbery is folks people being immature snobs. And the cross-brand ‘rivalry’ isn’t so extreme anymore.
I dont hate consoles. I just know that PC is a superior platform. More power, more freedom.
I do hate mobile, tho. Because it is 99% bullshit skinner boxes, shovelware and scams.
Because PC is better than console.
Because PC is better than console.
This is exactly why there’s animosity.
I prefer console because: it just works. Devs don’t need to address bugs related to hardware, and they can tune their games for the performance of the console.
I don’t have a lot of free time so knowing it will work within seconds of hitting the power button is worth it to me.
I used to PC game, and still do for a few that are better with a mouse/keyboard.
I don’t hate on anyone that prefers a different gaming system.
I was being facetious but yes you are obviously right. It’s just down to anyone’s needs and preference at the end of the day.
Consoles suck.
Depends on your needs. For my needs, PC is better.
I see what you mean. Everyone’s needs are different. But PC is better, of course
I have a Pc but don’t want to bring it into my living room every night to play games on my 81” screen.
Consoles have their place.
Mobile phone games that are just glorified gambling casinos are fucking trash and should be outlawed.
Just stream it over LAN.
To a point. There's just a bit of an entry gap when it comes to PC. If you have the money to build a PC that will last you years and can run just about 95% of all games released to the point of you having built the machine to entire backlogs of previous generations of games that were released on console. You won't be disappointed. The amount of those games is staggering and it can all be done with one PC as opposed to having to buy a console that's already pricey, then having to buy the actual games which have gotten even pricier on their own.
I don’t speak for others but i personally hate consoles because of their walled garden approach to games, proprietary and anti-repair design, and for paywalling access to multiplayer.
People like to support their choices. It’s not a ton different than sports. There have been periods where console and PC have had the advantage over the years, but it’s now become more of a choice of what you want your computer to look like. Mobile is generally universally hated because of the effects it had on the industry as a whole by accelerating the rise of micro transactions and loot boxes to an industry standard.
Humans are tribal creatures
And we have a hard time understanding others’ perspectives, which I think is also a big factor here.
Maybe a mix of tribalism and sunk-cost fallacy. People want to feel like the made the right choice regarding platform, while justifying the money they put in a probably closed ecosystem.
I think it was more prevalent when there were “console wars” i.e., fans of Xbox, Playstation, or Nintendo would shout at the other two about how great their system and games were. Some of it was probably marketing, some of it was overly excited and fanatical people making arguments for a thing they like. Generally, PC gamers get to enjoy a little bit of everything, from PC ports to emulators to their own exclusive swathes of games, but the label of “PC Gamer” feels marred by the idiots over at r/pcmasterrace.
Nowadays I’d be very surprised to see this bickering, considering how cross-platform everything is now. Playstation games are on PC, Xbox games are coming to Playstation. Nintendo is… well, Nintendo.
Yeah, its interesting that OP is just now asking about this when it seems like the console wars have died down entirely
They don’t. It’s all marketing
Because they consist of humans
Consoles have been brand tribalistic since forever, probably because of marketing, and that the people used to be mostly kids. Insufferable computer users felt superior because you could get a PC that runs games way better than any of the consoles.
Most of the fighting has ended now, which is nice. Mobile gaming was and is looked down because of its reputation as a shovelware platform.
That’s the real deal, right here.
The SNES vs. Genesis war from the 1990s never really ended. The banners being flown have changed over the years but the battles are pretty much the same. Me personally, what with having the luxury of being a perfectly responsible fully grown adult — that’s what it says on my driver’s license, anyway — I have at least one example of pretty much every console from the Atari VCS up to the PS3.
My beef with consoles now is that they’re all, with the exception of the Switch and its sequel, just watered down PC hardware anyway. And I already have a PC. And by and large my PC plays what I tell it to, not what Sony and Microsoft and for fuck’s sake not what Nintendo try to dictate at me. Thus, for modern games I play on PC.
As far as insufferable computer users go, that all started with Doom. Doom was the killer app of the 90s and every console maker at the time either wished theirs could run Doom but it couldn’t, or barely managed it and the experience was dogshit. Before that, it was the opposite: PC games and their developers fervently wished they could match the capabilities of the game consoles of their era, which all had specialized hardware specifically designed for the types of things games from that time did. It’s probably no coincidence that id software’s formative outing started with John Carmack and Tom Hall’s Dangerous Dave In Copyright Infringement,, which as dumb as it sounds was genuinely showing off at the time in that they managed to make a bog standard PC pull off a platformer with smooth(ish) scrolling, which is something the NES can do in its sleep.
Exactly, even the whole "pc master race" thing is ironic; now, about the tribalism inside the pc crowd...
Because the other two are stupid! Am I right fellow true gamers?! You know who you are
Basically: elitism.
Consoles have something called “exclusive games”, which are nothing more than what a blogger I read calls “Hostageware”. You can play hostageware on PC through emulators.
I’m perfectly content to let console player enjoy their games, just PC games feel so much easier to control for me, especially with the fine control the mouse offers. Although I do appreciate the vibration handhelds can have, mice can have it too, but it’s not as good. PC keyboards also have lots more buttons that you can map to functions, meaning more things can be accessible with one click.
It’s mostly kids. The typical playground arguments like ”my dad is stronger than your dad”.
And adults who refuse to grow up.
Because capitalism is designed to pit the poor against the poor; so that the rich can escape with all the value.
It is all simply for bragging rights and it is by design. This is what is called 'competition' to the corporate business world and it is what keeps it healthy. However, is it really competing when just about all sides of the camps are equally being fucked with one way or another? The true winner above them all is capitalism. The more people fight against eachother to justify their alignment, the more money comes in.
Mobile gaming is barely gaming at all, it is more like, your money is what is what you're playing with than anything. There had been honest attempts before, to bring actual gaming to mobile, but with so many games being made with intent to scam, there's no point.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’m a PC gamer that hates console gaming for good reasons.
First, what are the important differences between PC gaming and console gaming?
Because of this, console games have become the “lowest common denominator” of video games. If you’re a developer, you target the console and then port to PC. Games are dumbed down, slowed down, and graphically reduced for the console audience and then PC gamers are invited to slurp from the same trough. Modern console gaming has brought us such innovations as quicktime events (playing simon-says with buttons is not gameplay), weapon wheels (not the worst thing tbh), and exclusive deals (paying the dev to NOT release on other platforms). The keyboard and mouse is really a superior way of controlling a game. You have more buttons that you can hit quickly and aiming with a mouse is quicker and more precise. A game like Starcraft might never have been made if consoles were as powerful and popular back then. There actually was a SNES port of Starcraft and people literally only play it as a joke, the controls are too clunky.
In conclusion, I hate console gaming because it made my PC gaming worse. Worse menus, worse controls, worse graphics, less creative freedom, worse gameplay. I should also mention that most of my criticisms are for shooter games. Platformers on consoles are great fun and get ported to PC mostly without these issues.