Do younger people go home earlier now? Or go out less? Is it since COVID?

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• Sabata11792@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Early 30s. Outside is a scam. Everything there involves spending money and dealing with people. I'll talk and play games with my friends online but don't see people unless I am at work or forced to go out.

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  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everything there involves spending money

    Almost all the good socialization has become commercialized. There’s no town square anymore, it’s turned into a Walmart.

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    • Bipta@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And not even a 24 hour Walmart.

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    • lazyslacker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My town actually has a square. It’s nice to have.

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    • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      not even a walmart. where i live it's a neiman marcus. if you don't have $2000 to drop on a single coat, GTFO.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Libraries still exist! They have activities every single day!

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  • cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Late 30’s. I don’t always spend money when I go out and if I do have to spend its usually on cheap public transit to get somewhere else. I often leave the house and just walk around town. Good exercise and I’m not always stuck at home driving my cat bonkers.

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  • someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Games are a scam too.

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    • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you buy the ones with paid dlc/season passes/microtransactions, yes. You have to use your powers of observation and critical thinking and buy the complete games instead.

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    • xT1TANx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some are, and some aren’t. 100 dollars with bg3 gets you 100 plus hours of enjoyment. That is < 1 dollar / hour. That is value. I am still playing Skyrim after 10+ years and it was 60 bucks. I have 1000+ hours in it. Worth.

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• Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don't go out because post covid everything costs 100% more and is 100% worse.

  I spend $60 on two beers and a mcdonalds quality hamburger + fries last week. F that. in 2019 that would have been 20 bucks. in a place that was crowded and it took me like 30m to get my food. and almost every place is like that now. double the price for half the service or quality of product.

  if going out was fun and affordable I'd do it more. I went out regularly before covid. I just don't want to have to drop 30-40 bucks for a single beer and junk food meal anytime i want to socialize.

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  • lazyslacker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dude even stuff like bowling is too much now. An hour for two people can approach $70 at certain places. Not the bougie places either, those places are even more. I was browsing Google reviews for one place nearby like that and the owner responded saying that they should look for a Groupon.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Around here, all the affordable bowling places shut down. All we have left are the boogie places.

      My mom sent me $60 to take my kids, and it was not even close

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I get that. On top of increased cost we got into this overtipping to help people who were working and it’s all gotten out of hand.

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    • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yeah i'm not even counting tipping. that shit is insane. lots of places in my city now want a 20% tip, and a 5% fee. on top of a 9% tax. So basically your mean is now 35% more than the prices in the menu.

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  • dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seriously? I thought a beer’d be 4-5 American dollars, burger 5 and fries 2ish.

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    • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Depends on where you are and what you want. In Texas, you can get a beer in a small bar for $4-5, especially during happy hour. Hard to find a burger delivered to your table for less than $10. Fries and non-alcoholic beverages have become surprisingly expensive. Fries can easily be $5-7. Restaurants have gone over the top on portions - half pound burger on a giant bun and a bucket of fries for $20. They sell more, charge more, and half of it goes to the trash.

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    • xT1TANx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Burger is usually 20 now with fries. Beers 10 each.

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• sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not young anymore, but when I see the price of live music, alcohol, etc, and combine that with things like student debt, low income jobs and the pressure of potentially being humiliated via social media, I wonder how on earth young people ever go out.

  I feel incredibly lucky to have been in my late teens/early 20s during the late 90s and early 2000s. I suspect a lot of my generation dodged a fair few bullets, and never even realised it at the time.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So so glad i grew up without social media!! My bad decisions would be meme warnings for future generations.

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  • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    parental money and credit cards.

    my work hires lots of 22 year olds. most of them are getting an extra 1-2K from the bank of mom and dad per month.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I remember seeing P. Funk for $20 in the 90s.

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    • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We need the funk

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• HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If we invite our kids or niece/nephew to dinner they always want to go at 6/630 which feels so early.

  I hate to break this to you... but it's likely because they want to do their own things as well.

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  • Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For dinner 6.30 seems very late to me imo

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    • vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I typically eat around 730 8 630 sounds early to me.

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    • TitanLaGrange@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s funny how much this varies from family to family. We never eat dinner before 9PM. Usually two meals per day, lunch at maybe 1PM and dinner between 9 and 10PM. We’re just doing desk-work though, so no extra calorie needs. If I’m doing physical stuff I’ll usually add a light breakfast.

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like have time with each other or simply sleep before work next day.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like to do something else afterwards? Maybe that’s it.

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  • jigsaw250@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yep. I don’t mind doing it for birthdays or other special events, I’ll just need to take the day after off.

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• qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At least for me, its a threshold problem. The internet means that staying at home is always going to be at least somewhat interesting, which makes it a lot harder to take a gamble on a random late night outing. It’s not just staying out late, either—Gen Z shows declines in a whole host of risky behaviors. Smoking, alcohol, drug use, teen pregnancy, are all way down in our generation.

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• chutapues@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Cost of living and going out is insane. We don’t have the expendable income to do so.

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• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have two 15 years old sons. One of them is never home. He is always going out with his friends, either to the gym, or just walking around town. The other one rarely leaves the house. He’ll invite his friends over to hang out, and sometimes he visits them, but they usually talk at school or online.

  One difference I noticed is that back in the 1900s, we had to get a ride from our parents in order to play video games with our friends, but thanks to the Internet, it’s very easy to play and socialize with your friends from home, and being in the same room now PREVENTS people from playing together.

  The kids are actually socializing MORE because they don’t need to meet at the same location, and I don’t have to drive their asses all over town, so I’m ok with that.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    1900’s… 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the age gut punch.

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One of my kids said it a few months ago, and I decided that MUST be how I refer to it from then on! 😂

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think they had video games in the 1900s, since Tennis for Two was invented in the 1950s.

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hate to break it to you, but 1950 is only halfway into the 1900s.

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    • robotrash@lemmy.robotra.sh ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The 1950s are part of the 1900s… same as 1850 was part of the 1800s. They were just being facetious using “1900s” anyway. That will change as we all get older though, eventually it will just be the 1900s.

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• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m in my 40s, I’m not gonna go out to a concert an hour away on a weeknight because that means I’m not getting home 'til after 1 and I have to be up in the morning with a functioning brain because I have a damn job.

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  • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    speak for yourself. same here. i still go to concerts and come home at 1am. at least concerts are still affordable and like 20 bucks.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Again, I have to actually use my brain for a living.

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    • Bipta@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe near you... A hundred or more here.

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    • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How old are you, what time do you wake up for work, how much sleep do you normally require, and what’s your job?

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    • sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same except that concerts seem insanely expensive to me now!

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m 46. I took a half-day off last time I went to an event an hour away so I could sleep in the next day. It’s the only way I can do it and I do it rarely because I don’t have much PTO.

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• PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t know about your location specifically or the specific age range you’re refering to, but at least where I am, school/college tends to start at like 8:00 am, and most students want to or need to work fairly busy jobs given the ongoing cost of living crisis. Considering that, it mean they can’t stay up late, and don’t have much energy to socialize compared to older generations. Although again, this varys by area and individual.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I should have mentioned that the kids are 30ish. In the US, Texas. We all work generally 8-5 jobs and my husband is the only one who drives more than 20 minutes to work. He’s almost an hour each way- maybe that’s why we tend to go out later - come home, love on the animals, have a drink, go to dinner.

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    • girl@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m nearly 30. When it comes to family dinners, I want to eat earlier because I need time to unwind after the dinner. I want to get home by 9 so I have time to wind down before bed. I’m very introverted, and even though I get along well with both my family and my in-laws it’s still tiring to be around them. The only person who doesn’t wear me out is my husband, so I feel the same about hanging out with friends.

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    • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think that has always been the case. Working that is.

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• UnhappyCamper@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I'm in my 30s and with constant stress of life, I have no interest in really doing much of anything besides sitting on my couch playing video games and forgeting everything in my down time.

  I used to go out and party every weekend and during the week, but that was my early 20s.

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• BassaForte@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m 29. Wife and I go out for food 4 times a week. Also to do things to get out of the house. But, I make software engineer money and we live in a relatively small city in Wisconsin. I bought my house at 27 and own a sports car.

  I know shit is rough for a lot of people and inflation is nuts. I don’t take my career for granted.

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  • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    yes. nightlight in my city is predominantly wealthy people.

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    • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s plenty of fancy nightlife here, but i really love going to a dive bar with a local band! Most of our nearby colleges have drama programs and sometimes we find free late night programs at museums.

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    • BassaForte@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah that’s a bit much lol. I don’t drink at all really but I do try to spend pretty reasonably. Ideally a night out for both of us will cost less than 80-100.

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• Album@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Your kids aren’t kids and probably understand the value of a good night’s sleep in order to work the next day?

  I generally don’t go out on week nights especially not late because I want to get at least 7-8 hours of sleep or I’m a grumpy unproductive mess. My evenings I’m making dinner, getting ready for the next day, and trying to find an hour or two to relax before doing it all over again

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• WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hard to go outside when you have depression from the shit that the world throws at you. People always tell stories about wars, plagues, and, various disasters. But it’s all just stories. Most people don’t experience them, and for those who do, it’s only happebing in a small part of the world. War refugees can go to another country, you can move out of the country to avoid a local plague, and you move out of the way of a hurricane. Sars-Cov-2 (Covid-19) is worldwide, and it’s not in a history textbook. It’s not like there’s anywhere in the world that’s safe to hide. I think many people just have a sort of existential crisis. The world world having an existential crisis at the same time, over a period of a few months to years. The world is so interconnected, every news is about it. I mean, this feels so apocalyptic, like a worldwide apocalypse.

  Humans have never, on a global scale, all experience a disaster, at the same time. And being able to tell each other across the world how much people are suffering.

  Also, people are (at least where I live) getting violent due to the instability caused by Covid.

  All this on top of worldwide Autocrazation in every country, and the seemingly inevitable climate disasters awaiting in the near future.

  I don’t think humans are evolved enough to process this.

  Also, people might have long-covid which further damages the brain.

  People these days are just too depressed.

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  • teft@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    War refugees can go to another country, you can move out of the country to avoid a local plague, and you move out of the way of a hurricane.

    I’ve been to war. Most people in war torn countries are stuck there. Someone with a bunch of kids who is poor isn’t going to easily be able to move out of the way of any disaster whether it be man made or natural.

    Also I think you need to do less doomscrolling. The world is shit but it’s the best it’s ever been. Crime is the lowest it’s ever been, same with poverty and disease. Yes the corona virus affected the whole world but that’s one disease, humans are recovering from it just fine. The powers that be want you to remain depressed and placid so that you are easier to rule over. Don’t make it easy for them by believing all the propoganda. Find something small in your life that you can fix and have control over and fix it. At least then your brain won’t think everything is doom and gloom, just some things.

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    • Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah you can control small things and fix them.

      However, healthcare, education, and housing are rapidly becoming out of reach for the majority of people. That isn't a small thing any one person can fix on their own.

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  • lazyslacker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Opinion: unless you or a loved on has some kind of immune system issue, COVID is pretty much over.

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    • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I work in schools. It’s like a wildfire right now.

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    • WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Covid might be over, but doesn’t stop my existential dread that was caused by it.

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    • Silverseren@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      4 people I know right now are home sick with the new strain of Covid.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Covid definitely changed the way people think, behave, and live. I think my husband and i feel like we dodged a bullet, came through it ok, and enjoy being out (cautiously with the recent uptick). During lockdown we did dog walks to wave at neighbors, and moved our dart board outside to have people over for game nights.

    Both kids are musicians (hobby and small gigs, not for survival) - one returned to bars to watch and play when they re-opened (he went to the concert with me) while the other now mostly watches videos, plays, and records at home.

    We do have a couple of friends with long symptoms, especially fatigue, who crash after work on Wednesdays so we tend to see them on weekends.

    Being in Texas we are super familiar with oppressive government. When i read the news or watch tv i get pretty sad, frustrated, angry about it. When i talk to friends, neighbors, coworkers I’m relieved and hopeful for change. About 75 percent of the people i see in a day share my values. The few who don’t are at least reasonable enough that we can find some issues to agree on. I’m sure those numbers would be very different if i moved to a smaller city so i feel pretty thankful to be where i am.

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• AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just don’t feel like it anymore, I’m a different person than I was in my 20s. COVID has nothing to do with it.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I blame video games! No, seriously. During COViD, my kids leaned on video games as their only social outlet - everything is online and they’re generally chatting the whole time. We stopped limiting their gaming time because that was their socializing time.

  Since COViD and work from home, I don’t go out anywhere nearly as much. It’s too much hassle

  My ex moved to a new town and my younger kid (high school) is very active so spent the summer exploring the town. He’d spend entire days walking around, and never found “where the high school kids hang out”, I don’t think they do (outside the house)

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  • WeebLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, let’s blame video games. they are the typical scapegoat for complex societal issues.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or sometimes the answer is more complex than the first two sentences and you have to read the rest too

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    • pwalshj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      NO! It’s the rock music.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay, but, video games aren’t the problem here, they were a solution to the problem; so I’m not sure how they’re to blame.

    They couldn’t go outside (stay at home orders), couldn’t really play around outside with friends (social distancing at least), and didn’t really have options to simply hang out with friends, at all, ever. Many schools were doing remote learning too. So they spent all day, every day, physically alone.

    So they played games with their friends, so they could chat, emote and dance at eachother in the game, goof off if they wanted (within the limits of the game), and work together or against eachother to achieve goals or whatever the purpose of the game was.

    It seems video games were not the problem, but rather the solution to a litany of issues during the pandemic. On top of all of that, they didn’t have to beg for money to go to the shops or movies or whatever… Which is a benefit not only to the kids, who rely on their parents approval to do those things and provide them with the required funds to participate, but also on the parents pocket book. Overall a win/win.

    On top of that, they don’t need to worry about curfews, or any danger from strangers, or bullies battering them. If they don’t want to associate with someone they can simply not team up with groups that include that person. They can jump into public groups if their friends are busy and make new friends. Literally the only sacrifice they make is that they’re not going outside or getting much exercise.

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• malloc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I recently asked my son to go to a concert (free ticket to see a band i know he likes) and he declined because it was an hour away on a weeknight

  Either your son is more responsible than you or he already had plans to sneak out with his friends or gf 😂

  Also are your kids and nieces/nephews more like young adults, teenagers or middle schoolers?

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My kids are 30ish. If he’s sneaking out, his punishment comes from his wife, which i suspect is more effective than any grounding he got from us. 😁 Niece’s and nephews are late 30s-mid 40s. The older ones seem more likely to go out later and stay someplace longer drinking and chatting than the younger ones.

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  • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kids seem depressingly lethargic these days. They will probably doomscroll tiktok instead of going out with friends.

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• mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Covid isn’t a factor for me anymore, I keep up with my shots. It’s financial reasons and time restraints mostly. I got too much shit to do to have any sort of fun. My off days is catching up on sleep debt and errands. Speaking of which I need to do right now.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m 30ish. There is no time. Gotta go.

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• beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This year I’ve been going out more than ever. COVID gave me a new appreciation for out-of-the-house activities and now I can’t get enough of them.

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My kids, the teenagers, definitely do not go out like I did - it’s not money, most of what we did back then was just drink in empty parking lots, go to garage punk shows, concerts when we could. Sometimes the beach at night too. We had no money. They do similar (much less drinking, more of a police state now) but way, way less often and not usually till late.

  The older set, 25-31, it varies. Some eat at civilized 8-9pm when they do go out. Some like to go at teatime then just go home.

  The husband and I, we do usually go out to eat at teatime but sometimes go out for a drink, literally one, or to a concert or show.

  Every single one of us, adults and teens, like outdoor concerts because they have to end by 11, noise ordinance. Or concerts at clubs that wrap them early to open afterwards as a dance club. Nobody likes staying up till 3am at a show anymore, but maybe nobody actually liked it in the first place?

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  • sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agree with everything you say except the final point - I absolutely LOVED being out clubbing until 3 (4, 5…)

    Maybe it was just a product of my time as a young person, but being out that late and having a great time long after most people were asleep just felt so fundamental to my young adulthood.

    That’s not a criticism of those who prefer to stop sooner though, just a statement of how doing so would have felt alien to me. Each to their own though, as always.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If we have a show or something we eat early, or sometimes go to happy hour and eat there. Normally, we come home, talk to the animals, have a drink, and decide what to eat. We have an agreement that if we say NO to 5 restaurants, we’re having for tacos. All of that usually occurs between 6 and 7 with dinner around 8ish.

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree with that. The best thing to come from the early-ending shows is less waiting. Remember the old days of standing for an hour between bands and the headliner started at midnight?

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• Mdotaut801@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In my early 30s, I don’t have time and I’d rather spend money on stuff for my house or trips (when I finally do have time). I don’t drink or party, AND I’d rather have a good night’s sleep and feel good the next day than stay out past my bed time. I’m asleep between 9-1030 most nights including weekends.

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• son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you don’t go to dinner at like 6:30 these days then you probably won’t be able to go while the restaurants are still open.

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• hark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Too much to do indoors.

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• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The potential for device-driven entertainment right at home is so much greater now than it was for prior generations. It’s not just social media but also games. Kids these days hang out on Discord while playing a game together.

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• sibannac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I would say from personal experience it’s nice to have an evening to myself after events. I’ve stayed out late playing shows at bars in my early 20s while working a full time job and it is a godsend to have time that isn’t for sleeping to spend my own way. Again not everyone yearns for that introversion time.

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• Alwaysfallingupyup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Younger people are weird as shit compared to older generations

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  • Today@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think they’re more weird; just different weird. Every gen has different shit they deal with and react to.

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• Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Young people can’t do anything these days without their emotional support ferrets or without their phones clutched in their hands so they can ask the internet what to think.

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  • Venomnik0@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wonder which generation could be responsible for such a “useless generation”.

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