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Is there a better sequel than Terminator 2?

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Blaze@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨movies@lemm.ee⁩

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  • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aliens

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    • steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Game over, man

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    • CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The correct answer. The perfect duology.

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was about to say no, but you convinced me. They’re both phenomenal.

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  • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Dark Knight

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  • lemmyng@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Empire Strikes Back.

    And if you’re into “it’s so bad it wraps around and becomes hilarious” films, Troll 2.

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  • teft@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Empire Strikes Back

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  • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People who grew up with the original will probably flay me for this.

    Bladerunner 2049 was a better movie than Bladerunner. It took everything that was great about the original and improved upon it.

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    • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The original is a masterpiece. That said, I loved the sequel and have rewatched it multiple times. However, I don’t know if it is because I love the film or just anything Ryan Gostling is in 🤤😅

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      • Zozano@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Drive?

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      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The first movie I saw with Gosling was Lars and the Real Girl. I didn’t get his appeal then, but I do now. I should watch that movie again because as weird as that movie is, I think his performance is stellar.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Old school fan here, from the 80s. I’m just dandy with this take.

      Probably never been more nervous about a sequel to a beloved movie. I was praying and praying, please god don’t let them fuck this up. But how could they possibly follow one of the top 5 most popular science fiction movies of all time?

      Well, Villeneuve knocked it out the fucking park. I was sold from the first scene with Bautista. Sold. Enough call backs and fan service to put us in the world without being obvious and ingratiating. Damned fine line to walk.

      Entire cast rocked out, too many props to write down. Yes, Leto was a little over-the-top, but he was supposed to be. Richest man in the world, totally disconnected from his humanity, and humans. And they got Olmos and Ford back! Perfect.

      Got to see it with my ex-wife, no one else in the theater. What a grand experience. If it ever comes back to the big screen, I’ll not skip it.

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      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I had never seen the original until right before watching the sequel. While I really appreciate the original, I had no real expectations from the sequel, but it still blew me away.

        I honestly can’t say I’ve ever seen a better sequel. Especially not so long after the first one came out. It’s pretty amazing.

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      • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Do you frequently go to the movies with your ex-wives?

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    • CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It is great.

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    • Ilandar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I guess I will need to rewatch 2049 again (I’ve only seen it once, in the cinema at release). I’ve watched the original quite a few times since though and I’m increasingly of the opinion that it’s quite overrated and gets heavily carried by the visuals and the soundtrack, so I could see a case being made for the sequel being better.

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      • jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The story / writing is pretty bold too. It’s nothing new by modern standards, but it was probably relatively novel in 1982.

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The visuals and soundtrack are a major part of any movie. And yeah, the original rocks out on both.

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  • flx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Shrek 2

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    • IdontplaytheTrombone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know what, thread closed. What a perfect movie.

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  • cdf12345@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Godfather 2

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  • UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bending the rules a bit here. I know it is not a true sequel, but it’s part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead. Also, except for the second film, I think the Mission Impossible series just gets better with every entry.

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why do you think Hot Fuzz is better? Not arguing, I love both movies! I had never thought to compare the two

      Shaun of the Dead is on my “perfect films” list but I’m sure it’s at least in part because of its context in my life.

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      • UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I just think the joke ratio is a lot higher and they’re all excellent jokes as well. Plus there’s tons of little moments which you can pick up on multiple viewings.

        Shaun is still a great film, I just think they got better with Fuzz.

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      • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not OP. I think that Fuzz just got more budget and looks less campy than Shaun due to that and stylistic choices, but I love both equally and I don’t think filming Shaun like Fuzz would make it better. HF packs action and SotD shines in it’s long shots when we see parts of it’s storytelling in the background, they both have different vibes and the way they are filmed and edited serves them well.

        Ed Wright and their shared cast are so talented they could’ve made anything a cult classic, even an omegaverse\Twilight crossover where Simon Pegg, haphazardly tanned to look like Jacob (pre-RenEsme lock-in), struggles to find a match with a vampire omega and joins the Edward\Bella story only to steal Edward; Nick Frost serves as his werewolf bro giving the least useful advices Simon blindly follows; also it’s suburbs of London and the soundtrack is full of hair metal for some reason.

        Shit, now this idea would haunt me for years.

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    • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I know it is not a true sequel, but it’s part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead.

      I think we’ll have to agree to disagree here.

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    • Artyom@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For a while, Mission Impossible kept getting better, but Dead Reckoning was absolute dog water and it killed all my interest in the franchise forever.

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    • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I liked MI2 better than MI:III

      it’s been a while since I’ve seen them, so I can’t really remember why.

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      • UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        About two years ago, I watched all six, as there were then, over the course of a couple of weeks. For me, the second film stands out as being the weakest.

        I think I need to watch Dead Reckoning (formerly part 1) again as I was slightly disappointed seeing that.

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  • Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Evil Dead 2, though it’s arguably a re-telling vs a sequel.

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  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wrath of Khan

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  • ooli2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Mad max 1 was a revenge cop story Mad max 2 was apocalyptic Mad max

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  • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Paddington 2

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Short Circuit 2

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Number 5 is ALIVE!

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      • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Los locos kick your ass.

        Los locos kick your face.

        Los locos kick your balls INTO OUTER SPACE!

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  • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Godfather II. The first is honestly kind of hokey and people are really stupid when they are trying to be clever. GF II has higher levels of tension and the execution of everything is smarter. And Robert DeNiro just slays playing young Marlon Brando.

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t think of any. It’s hard to be a better sequel than the greatest action movie of all time is.

    If I had to pick, I would say The Empire Strikes Back.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t say they are better, per se, but these are some sequels I think are on the same level, when compared to the original film in the series:

    • Austin Powers 2

    • Die Hard With a Vengeance

    • Operation Condor 2

    • Back to the Future Part 3

    • Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

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    • klemptor@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This one right here, officer.

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  • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dune, Part Two

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Why better? I’d put them on exactly the same level, damned near perfect.

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      • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The first film was a lot of set-up that payed off in part 2.

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  • Foni@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was going to say terminator3 but then I realized you were serious.

    I’ll have to say Escape from L.A. It is not usually mentioned and I think it is better than the first part

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      ? Interesting take. Haven’t watched either for a decade or two. You got me thinking…

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  • reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Empire Strikes Back Star Trek II

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Nailed it! I’d add Aliens, not as a better movie, but as a worthy sequel.

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  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Hate on Michael Bay and his Transformers movies all you want, but there is only one movie with more robots that turn into more things than cars, more explosions, more ridiculous destruction, more awesomeness, more movie than 2007’s Transformers, and that movie is Transformers: Age of Extinction.

    A giant robot that turns into a semi-truck painted with red flames, wielding a sword while riding on the back of another giant robot that turns into a flame-breathing T-rex robot. It’s unparalleled in the stupid dumb action movie genre.

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  • Terrapinjoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Critters 2

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  • Deebster@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Toy Story 2? My other answer would be Godfather part II, but it’s been so long since I saw it that I don’t know if I agree with that commonly-held opinion.

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  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I saw another comment that spurred my thinking. There are (how many?) sequels in the Terminator series that have only been increasingly worse all because Terminator 2 was so good.

    The same goes for Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back is a damn good movie by any measure. I’m confident none of the Star Wars movies since have managed to even come close, and I’d even say the only ones really worth watching are the first, the second, and the immediate prequel (Rogue One)

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  • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Superman II

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    • PixelTron@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Superman lll

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      • Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Is slightly better than IV but can’t touch II. Terence Stamp’s Zod is one of the great superhero movie villains.

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  • CCMan1701A@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I qualify a good sequel as a movie that can be enjoyed without having to watch the previous. Not that the previous isn’t important, just not required.

    Terminator 2 clearly fits into this category. As do a lot of sequels. Here is my short list:

    • Terminator 2
    • The Dark Knight
    • Finding Dory
    • Toy Story 2
    • Spider Man 2 (Toby Maguire)

    Do Casino Royal or Rogue One count for anyone?

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  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Hot shots! Part deux.

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  • Frozengyro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dead snow 2. First one was so bad it was good, the second one was actually incredibly.

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  • Akanes@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The Two Towers?

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  • psyspoop@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I won’t go so far as to say this is better than Terminator 2, but Gremlins 2 is such a great sequel. Some people are turned off by the zaniness, but I love how it’s basically a parody of unnecessary sequels and that they just swung for the fences with it.

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  • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    cars 2. Nothing better than a spy movie where the protagonist is literally a car

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