Submitted 9 months ago by infyrin@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Note: I’ve no idea why the uploader decided to rotate the image, when I’ve tried rotating the original image in a way that’d fix it only to see that it didn’t matter
Beyond parody. Now ink is a subscription service as well? Soon a back to school supply subscription service will be created.
I’m all for shitting on mandatory subscription services but this is optional. You have a choice. Why are you shitting on choice?
I actually have the cheapest sub for this because I did the math and it’s cheaper than buying cartridges. I use the printer enough to justify it’s existence but that’s about it. If they price goes up and the math doesn’t work anymore I’ll cancel it.
Regarding your image rotation: When you rotate an image, it's often not done as an actual movement of data, but as an added EXIF tag. "Take this image and display it at this angle."
EXIF tags can store a lot of malicious shit like the GPS location of your photo, so lemmy aggressively strips them out. Better take your photos the right way from the start and/or use a robust photo manipulation software that will actually rearrange the data instead of adding a tag.
I hope Lemmy doesn’t strip all EXIF tags… There’s important things in there about colour, copyright, etc that should be kept.
I’ve encountered the same issue as OP where Lemmy was incorrectly rotating an image, and I couldn’t figure out how to fix it. It worked perfectly fine on other sites that strip personal EXIF data like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc; it was just Lemmy that was unhappy.
I’ve found that taking s screenshot of the pic solves the issue, for me at least
Lemmy is much more aggressive about it than the other sites you mentioned. Dunno what to tell you since you're hoping otherwise, but that's what's going on.
I hope Lemmy doesn’t strip all EXIF tags
So far as I know it does. Otherwise why strip the rotation data?
This is not mildly infuriating. This is intensely rage inducing.
Funfact, printer ink costs 20-50€ per Liter for the manufacturer and is often solled for over 5000€ a liter!
Mildly infuriating: this post’s lack of image rotation
Also mildly infuriating: When the OP had made a note of it but someone still obtusely charges in with a reply like yours.
Don’t be so acute.
Mildly infuriating: this post’s lack of image rotation
Get a basic Brother B/W láser printer.
With $15 you can buy a 1,000 page generic toner, and a 500 pack of paper.
Like I said in one of the previous comments, I would love to buy laser printer, but sometimes we still need to print at home with colors.
I’ve printed a few hundred pages with the starter toner they said would only last 30 pages, and just disabled the warning
Mildly Infuriating: HP printers and your image being sideways.
we can drop the “mildly” for the printers part
Get an Epson ecotank
This…I invested in an Ecotank ET-15000 and it’s been amazing. Much cheaper models available, but the upfront cost is worth the hit if you do a lot of printing. The family hasn’t even managed to put a dent in the original tank supply. A full load is rated at something like 9000 pages.
Yeah the ink lasts for ages as long as your not doing power print head cleanings frequently
Shit like this is why I refuse to have a printer in my house. Between the exorbitant prices for fucking INK, the suspense of “will it actually work?” each time I print something, and the printer itself usually sounding like two geriatric robots fucking, I don’t need that kind of negativity in my life.
This is why I moved to a brother laser printer years ago. No drm on their toner it’s a dry medium for printing. Everything is enclosed with in the printer so nothing gets covered in dust when sitting for too long. Oh and the best part is I get two xl toner that print 3k pages each for 20. Literally the first time I had to replace the toner the printer already paid for itself just in the savings.
She may be basic as fuck but for pushing 10 years of service. I wouldn’t trade her for anything else.
I would love to buy laser printer, but sometimes we still need to print at home with colors.
I had a Brother laser printer for a long ass time. I asked for it for a gift for either Christmas or my birthday as a teen because I’m a dweeb. It had an awesome feature called something like “continue print” or “print continue” or something that would force the printer to attempt to print even if your toner was low.
I think nowadays I’ve heard even Brother’s newer models don’t have this feature and will force you to replace the toner when it’s low instead of just going until it physically can’t anymore.
But after many years, the print head started printing funky and blotchy even with fresh toner and even after attempting to clean and fiddle with the corona wire. I’m sure someone that knew more than me could have figured it out eventually.
I was graduating from grad school at the time and just ended up chucking it in the bin when I moved, but it pained me a bit to do so considering how much of a tank it was. After I graduated I rarely need to print anything and usually just run to a print shop instead.
I wholeheartedly recommend Brother laser printers from the time, but I can’t say whether or not modern ones are as good or not.
Buy a brother. They cost more but they are no bullshit printers - I’ll never buy any other brand
Yep. The xerox one I got has done pretty well too. No drivers to download, for any device or OS in my home network. Shit just works.
Look into epson ecotank printers
You fill up ink tanks on the printer from bottles of ink
I still got and older HP one that takes cheap refills. Screw you HP. I don’t know what I’d do if that thing breaks. Luckily it only ever gets used like 2 or 3 times each year.
HP isn’t the only company that makes printers.
Fun fact: it’s really only HP that pulls this shit. Buy a printer from literally any other company and you’ll be fine.
All of you who say you never print anything must not have kids. We have to print stuff for my daughter’s school fairly regularly. Even now that assignments are generally turned in on her Chromebook.
Nah, we’re not saying we never print anything. School & work are the main reasons you’ll need a printer. However, the thing is nobody needs to print consistently. Even on a whole family of five I’ve lived in, I doubt we printed more than 5 or 10 papers per month, and that was maximum. Not to mention we live in a place where it takes 30-45 minutes to go to a school (and libraries? They don’t exist lmao) and print shops are expensive.
The fact of the matter is the usefulness of a printer is is mainly due to being able to keep it around to print on demand for essentially free (how many times have you used up all the ink in the cartridge, really?) Nobody can ever predict whenever they need to print, it just happens. The second you attach it to an overpriced subscription service where the public will absolutely not use all of their “monthly papers” is when they all leave your brand like birds in the winter, and especially if they live somewhere more fortunate than we do, just go to your local school or library.
Oh I’m not justifying the subscription bullshit. There are just multiple people in this thread who are suggesting there’s no reason to own a printer.
What grades does this start? I’ve got to prepare for it. Is it an ad hoc requirement, or is it known partially in advance can I run some test papers as work every once in a while to cover printing needs?
How are parents without printers doing it? Local library?
We’ve been printing stuff since first grade, although admittedly she didn’t get a Chromebook until fifth grade and printing has been less.
That said, I’m sure they have accommodations for parents who don’t have printers. It’s probably the school themselves or the teacher (more likely since it’s probably on their dime) wanting to save ink.
Also, it isn’t 100% necessary for this reason, but it’s really helpful to have a printer when doing posterboard projects for things like labels.
It’s not for everyone, but the subscription model works well for me. I don’t print a lot each month, but what I do is mostly very ink-heavy images. I was spending a lot more when I bought my own cartridges, plus I had to go to the store and hope it was in stock. Now they mail me a new cartridge when I’m running low.
Ink tank instead and use cheaper ink bottles?
Do you have a brand and model you’d recommend? I’m always open to a better set up.
For a second or two I thought that you don’t even get actual ink. I saw a post about multi-function printers refusing to scan if you’re out of ink, and I thought perhaps you can buy a card with an unlock code for such situations. That’s not too unbelievable these days though, is it?
Don’t give them ideas. They could send you a default cartridge to top it up, then only allow you to print when your have an active subscription.
What kind of demented toddler would even buy a printer attached to a subscription service? Printing is the definition of a thing that you do so sporadically and randomly it’s almost questionable to even get one. If you have some kind of cheap printing shop, school, or library super close by to you, then it’s not even a competition. The whole reason people buy printers and ink cartridges is so they can print something on demand at any time for essentially free (besides the odd time you might need another cartridge, which is even rarer to happen).
If someone buys a freaking “printer subscription month”, I guarantee, they’ll print one, MAYBE two papers, and not use the rest of it. Then repeat the cycle every time you need to print. $15 well spent, huh.
It’s not quite that bad (yet…) - it has reasonably clearly labelled subscription and non-subscription cartridges. So when you cancel the subscription, you just throw the non-subscription cartridge back in.
If you’re printing quite a lot, but not enough to justify a laser printer, then they can work out okay. The vast majority of people would indeed be wasting money though.
A basic brother is like $20 more than the inkjets at this point, hard to justify anything else.
Why I print everything at work.
I bought an HP Printer and now even if you have the ink you literally must subscribe to their service in order to use the ink you’ve bought…
what printer is that? I’ve never seen this before
It’s an HP Envy Photo 7100. I go it BRAND NEW for like 75 bucks, and now I see why! I will never get another HP printer in my whole life. When you buy it it grants you 1 year of free tier which only gives you 50 pages a month, and sometimes it’s even buggy and it prints the same page more than once… What a shame, DRM has reached such a high level of consumer disrespect we can’t even do much about it, even because i’ve talked to a few people who actually agree with HP’s choice to block YOUR OWN HARDWARE behind a paywall (of course all rich people)
Worked at office Depot when this first rolled out, around 2013 or so. It was a hard sell then too. Was another reason I pushed lasers to people.
So glad I have never had to print anything off at home for over a half decade now. The family printer might not be getting much use anymore, but it sure beats subscribing to use the device you purchased.
I’ve actually been printing more at home over the past couple of years than I ever had before. Both as a hobby and for my son’s school stuff. The trick is to buy those after market inks on ebay. I use the Canon PIXMA series and can get 5 packs of all 4 colors for ~$20.00us. I tried the refillable cartridges, but the effort and mess isn’t worth it.
The only thing with the printers is the print heads seem to clog too easily. Need to make sure you’re using it regularly.
We moved to a brother last (b/w) for that exact reason. Run about 8k pages through it I think and it hasn’t once complained to me
Same I rarely print . Have a brother colour laser these days (they’re quite reasonably priced compared to a few years ago) and the toner isn’t going to go bad through non-use like an inkjet would
Had an HP inlet a while back… the ink dried up and blocked the head. The HP official solution was the head was nonreplaceable and you had to buy a new printer. So I did, but never would I buy HP again.
Print 50 6*8" photos for $5 a month seems a good deal, you would never be able to spend less than that with OEM inks
that is how it works if you live right at the equator
Why is the printhead permanently attached in my hp printer. Do they have any valid justification they could make?
That way, when it clogs, you have to buy a whole new one.
Or purchase an angled syringe through eBay, thread paper towels under the printhead one by one and squirt 99% IPA through to break the clog (after manually fighting the printhead from locking itself into a non-accessible corner during shutdown or getting error messages of improper shutdown that stops the clean printhead function from working for several attempts).
I have phased printers out of my home life completely by now.
It’s just an industry in their death rolls.
Printing is now almost universally optional. Most of the things that get printed these days are only printed because people are more comfortable. Probably a pretty scary place to be if you’re the printer division of a company.
I don’t know if the best answer would be to make it even less appealing to print, but I guess they have their shareholders to impress as well.
Worst plan, but their printing division is likely no longer anywhere near profitable and they’re clawing at the bottom line trying to survive.
This whole thing is crazy
This is in the same realm as women’s clothes without pants. The people who keeping buying this shit deserve it.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 months ago
10 cents a page to use your own printer? Glad I picked laser.
yote_zip@pawb.social 9 months ago
Not only that, but you would have to print all 50 pages/month to get that “value”.
orbitz@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I haven’t printed 50 pages over many months, but I still have a laser for those times it’s useful. Pretty soon they’ll be able to downgrade your colour to black only, at only a slight surcharge over the regular black ink plan. I noticed they say you can print 50 pages but do they give the paper too? Heh.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Your own hardware as a “service.”
Fun fact: If you cancel your HP Instant Ink subscription, they lock you out of using the cartridges already installed in your printer.
I also gave up on inkjet bullshit and went laser. I use a Canon ImageClass at both work and at home; A single set of toner cartridges easily lasts me for years of home use. Color laser options are also no longer rare or expensive.
TitanLaGrange@lemmy.world 9 months ago
TBH, if they could provide a high-quality piece of hardware that would just work for years on end and automatically reorder ink (at no additional charge, up to some reasonable limit) when it needed it for a low fixed price, maybe 50 or 60 bucks a year, I might be interested. If they added large-format print-on-demand service with quick delivery (same day in cities, 1 or 2 day elsewhere) I’d probably pay a bit more. That way I could print regular documents up to, say 11x17, at home, and have big stuff like poster-sized delivered quickly and seamlessly with the same printing system.
I just want to be able to print stuff without futzing around with a persnickety machine, and needing to replace the infernal thing every couple of years.
dot20@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No shit, the cartridges are part of the subscription. If you don’t want that, you can just buy your own cartridges outside of the subscription service
Mereo@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I’ve nothing by good experience with Brother laser printers.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 months ago
likewise, brother
labguy20@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Brother is 90% awesome, 10% infuriating. My Brother laser would blow my 15 Amp circuit. I had to move it to the basement for a 20 Amp outlet. It’s been going for 12 years since on its third toner cartridge (and I probably will never get through my current 2 pack), though the Wi-Fi printing capability won’t work with any router I’ve bought after 2015. Duplex printing, Linux, smartphone, any computer I hook up to it, no worries.
oleorun@lemmy.fan 9 months ago
I have bought two laser printers in fifteen years. I got a Canon to replace the slow Brother MFC. I’ve lasted years on the toners I bought after the starter toners ran out. Toners never dry out and they don’t have the same print quality issues that ink jets have.
Anyone using an ink jet printer for anything other than printing photos onto photo paper is wasting tons and tons of money.