This is BS. By the third or fourth bottle shed be like wtf is up with this juice?
Anon helps with his gf's vaping addiction
Submitted 5 months ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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criitz@reddthat.com 5 months ago
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I tapered off vaping using the same method, and there is a clear difference in the feeling of a pull when you cut the nicotine down. Also, you can’t just “cut” the nicotine, you’d have to find some way to enhance the flavor of the diluted mix otherwise it will just get more bland. All of that being said, this is a valid strategy for kicking it. Just buy lower nicotine content bottles until you get down to 0% nic, and if your your experience is like mine, you just wake up one day and don’t reach for the vape on the nightstand.
turtlepower@lemm.ee 5 months ago
As far as it being bland, that’s why you get the same flavor juice with 0 nicotine and cut it with that. It does reduce the “throat hit” (that feeling you’re talking about), but you still get the full flavor.
Zekas@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Mixed my own until I quit. You have to be vaping the exact same shit constantly to have the taste so dialled in. If it’s this slow a taper you’re never going to be notice from one week to the other. And while I didn’t use a ton, shortfills seemed fine to use with or without nicotine added. Just add less or replace with unflavoured liquid.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
If you mixed 50/50 VG/PG with the juice 1% at a time over months, the difference would be imperceptible. If a person vapes only one flavor, olfactory fatigue is going to take the flavor away way more than even a 50% cut.
That all goes out the window if someone vapes different flavors, though.
Omgarm@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s also BS because it is 4chan and a lot of their posts are untrue and homosexual.
hoss@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
Fake and lesbian
gila@lemm.ee 5 months ago
If they were vaping a whole 30ml bottle @ 50mg/mL per week, yeah probably. That’s a pretty extreme dependency. I don’t know anyone ingesting that much nic, after 7 years in vape industry / over a decade vaping myself. I’m not in the US though, Juul kinda fucked things up over there
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 months ago
my city banned flavors yet allows the sale of flavored alcohol with cartoons on them. i dont get it
ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’ve never in over 10 years seen 50mg/ml eliquid. This has to be salt nic right? Tried that once or twice and that stuff was bonkers. Been around the scene for a while too and even released a few recipes that are on the front page of ELR
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
She would just hit harder and tape more. Quitting doesn’t work this way.
Perfide@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Did you actually lower by only a percentage a week, or were you doing the normal thing and just buying weaker juice? Commercial vape juices have multiple percentage differences in their nic content between the different “tiers” of juice. That would be much more sudden and noticeable than 1% a week lower.
criitz@reddthat.com 5 months ago
I mixed my own juice and controlled the nicotine very precisely
red@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
50% nic lmao. Fake as hell.
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 months ago
OP probably means 50mg which is standard high concentration nic salts (freebase is most commonly 3mg). People often mistake mg for percentage in vaping.
papalonian@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But they claimed to have used dilution formulas to achieve these percentages. Pretty sure it’s BS.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 months ago
everyone i know calls 50mg “50%”
everyone.
red@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
I’ve vaped since 2013 and have literally never heard of this. Could be regional 💁♂️
drathvedro@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Around these places, if anyone asks for “50% nic liquid”, they’d be promptly kicked out of the store. Chances are, that’d be kids that don’t know pure nicotine is ~1010mg/mL, or they do know and are asking for something highly illegal.
Are you sure you’re not confusing it with PG/VG composition?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
This is literally how I quit, except I did it intentionally.
But this is fake because the jump from 0.001 to 0.000 was like the ground disappearing beneath my feet.
For the previous week I was only using 0 nic juice in a pod that previously held a tiny amount of nic (we’re talking trace amounts near the end - I wasn’t feeling a thing).
Anyway I thought I was going through withdrawal so hard with the 0 nic in the used pod, but NOPE switch to 0 nic in a fresh pod and it was like “welcome to withdrawal 2.”
Still really happy I quit though. It’s so great not going into a panick whenever I misplace my vape for like 42 seconds. That was always so fucking humbling.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Finally, some hard evidence for homeopathy
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Tack a few more zeros in there and sure.
P0rkduck@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’ve also done this to quit vaping. I’ve quit cold turkey a couple times, but diluting like this was by far easier for me. Still difficult, especially when going to zero nic, but it worked.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
For sure, if cold turkey hasn’t worked for someone, I would recommend this option. As hard as it was, it actually stuck (haven’t had nic in several years), unlike the hundreds of other times I tried to quit
Chippyr@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Other than being blatantly fake this is really nice.
Xanis@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is okay to assume something is real when it doesn’t hurt anyone. :)
Cause maybe, juuust maybe, this story will help someone else.
arefx@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I unironically did this to taper off nicotine and have been smoke/vape/nicotine free for 6 years
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Anon sounds like a genuinely good partner
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 5 months ago
meh, good intentions but tampering with someones consumables without permission is a bit rapey if you ask me.
If she’s old enough to vape then she’s old enough to make the decisions for herself
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 months ago
i don’t think you know what rape is
olutukko@lemmy.world 5 months ago
but she also wanted to quit. this seems fine by me, cuz that shit ain’t healthy and anon wasnt forcing her the idea of quitting since she had already tried to do it herself, and the anon also wasn’t taking the feeling of winning away from her. just a little white lie to help her achieve her goals.
is she wouldn’t want to quite though, that would be pretty fucked
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I don’t think you understand how addiction works
PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Assault is when I nerf my partner’s vapes
fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 months ago
Man, I’d love to do this but I’d feel so bad lying. My partner is trying to stop though, so I am going to show him this juice. Successful marketing, I guess. Could be worse. :)
Perfide@reddthat.com 5 months ago
And then the gf decides she wants to try a new flavor, buys her “normal” nic strength, and fills her vape up with it before anon has a chance to dilute it.
Psythik@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This would actually work out fine because she’d get he new bottle, hit it as hard as she did with her diluted bottles, then to proceed to throw up. The nausea alone from nicotine overdose should be a decent deterrent.
efstajas@lemmy.world 5 months ago
As someone who “quit” nicotine and unfortunately picked it up again later multiple times… The first hit after a while felt amazing. Unfortunately. No nausea at all.
venoft@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Diluting 50 times you’d need one hell of an amount of “dilution formula”.
Manzas@lemdro.id 5 months ago
It’s called water
uis@lemm.ee 5 months ago
FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Why?
Let’s say the original bottle contained 100ml of liquid at a concentration of 50%. You want to want to bring the final concentration down to 1%. You take a new bottle with 98ml of “dilution formula” (probably water) and add 2 ml of the original concentration to it. You now have a liquid with 1% concentration.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Isnt fine tuning tour dosage literally the point of vapes? There are a lot of fluids with different levels of nicotine. Also from 50% you would fucking die. Its probably 50mg.
JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Wouldn’t she just use it more often and ultimately get roughly the same dose?
gila@lemm.ee 5 months ago
It’s possible, but frequency is determined by more factors than simply relief from nicotine withdrawal. It’s also possible that reducing concentration very slightly doesn’t change the overall equation enough to actually drive behavioral change. But I’d agree that outcomes are better secured with conscious intent. I think quitting successfully and meaningfully means learning resilience against compulsion to engage in behaviors driven by chemical reactions in the brain, which this approach doesn’t do at all.
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Not if you only hit it in certain circumstances, i.e breaks at work, out drinking, etc.
That kind of 1%/week gradual decrease would probably lead to less of an addiction to line up with less of a dose.
steeznson@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The story is a bit controlling/manipulative in my opinion. Even if the net outcome is good I’d feel like I was overstepping a boundary if I did this to my partner.
Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It sounds so freaking fake. Tbh, I hope it’s real and this woman is free from vape addiction. There’s a question here about boundaries but what strikes me the most is that I can’t take it seriously. The tone is just so characteristic of these 4chan green texts. No details, no heart. Straight to the point. Short enough to get a bunch of upvotes.
He wrote it like it’s a simple story that happened within a week. It just feels manufactured
mihor@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
It’s not manipulation if the manipulatee benefits from it. Besides, he saved her from cancer. Fuck cancer.
pseudo@jlai.lu 5 months ago
How long does it takes to vape a bottle?
ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 5 months ago
How big a bottle and how efficient the vape? When I did regularly if I recall a 30 ml bottle would last about a week. That switching from a pack/day smoking for comparison of volume.
don@lemm.ee 5 months ago
lmao that’s exactly what I did to quit nicotine altogether. Vaped off of cigarettes, then started lowering the nicotine until about of month of zero, then just stopped completely about two years ago.
But this was when you could order custom nicotine level juice and get it sent though the mail. I figured out that this was too good to last, so I lowered my concentrations kinda quickly. This was fortunate, because not long after I quit, the last high quantity e-juice company I sourced from closed up shop.
TBDLiquids, you were the GOAT.
I still have the last half bottle or so of zero nicotine juice as a reminder. So glad I was able to beat the addiction in time.
qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Regulations having the exact opposite effect than desired. Classic.
debil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If this was legit, she actually would’ve quit by herself. The withdrawal symptoms would all be there, just dragging much longer and somewhat more diluted (!) than cutting off cold turkey.
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I mean on the one hand you’ve made someone who’s pretty likely to be an asshole to addicts and about addiction for the rest of her life, and put her self-esteem up on a pedestal that’ll fall over if she ever finds out, but hopefully it doesn’t come to that…
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Good intentions, implementation, and results here, but seriously folks, think VERY carefully about what you’re doing when you tamper with something someone’s putting in their body.
Do not try at home to the nth degree.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
this made me really uncomfortable too, also its extremely fake, you can’t ‘take apart’ a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic), and no one on 4chan has a girlfriend (lol)
towerful@programming.dev 5 months ago
You can take apart juice bottles.
The least realistic part is that anon managed to get to and dilute every bottle their gf used.
Cause if they miss one, their gf is gonna have a serious shock.
So, lack of consent and extremely controlling?
H4mi@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I take apart mine every time I buy one. To add nicotine. Maybe there are different kinds of bottles? I’ve never seen one where the top is not detachable.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Maybe the ones you use can’t be taken apart but dont assume the whole world aligns to your image of it
Makhno@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What sketchy cheap shit are you using? I’ve used a vape for a decade now, and you can remove the nipple cape on every single bottle.
uis@lemm.ee 5 months ago
We don’t know anything about that particular bottle OP used.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I make juice and you can absolutely pop the top off’a the bottle pictured here!
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Body pillows can be girlfriends!
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Instructions unclear. Afraid to cook for gf now.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
yeah using some random “cutting solution” is how you end up with Honey Cut 2.0
turtlepower@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You don’t use a random cutting solution, you use the same juice with no nicotine. A lot of juice makers offer 0 nic versions for people that want to just enjoy the act and flavor of vaping without the addiction, and for this specific purpose of cutting the nic level because they only offer certain increments (usually 3%, 6%, 12%), which may be too high for one’s personal preference.
gila@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Just as a thought experiment, what you’d really wanna do is change the salt nic formulation, i.e. the acidic compound which is added to freebase nicotine to convert it to a salt. This directly shapes the pharmacokinetics of the resulting nicotinic effect from vaping it, which is what leads to the common knowledge that salt nic hits harder, but doesn’t last as long as freebase. That isn’t universally true at all, but is a result of the salt formulations that are popular in the market.
I worked with a scientist that once formulated a 20mg/mL solution for me that had similar throat hit to the 40mg/mL products I was using & had a very steep onset curve, and I found it to still be very satisfying even immediately after swapping. It wasn’t a successful product though because for the consumer, 20mg = 20mg & 40mg = 40mg
Guess my point is that the novel ways of using tech to improve weaning off nicotine using vaping do legitimately exist, but they don’t have a place in a free market so we won’t have it while regulators stay luddites on the issue
sukhmel@programming.dev 5 months ago
For those like me who have never heard of (E)VAPI or Honey Cut and want to read a disturbing story of how illicit products may be made of pretty much anything, there’s a read from Leafly
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Mixing vape juice is standard practice though. You can buy nicottine free vape juice everywhere. If you splti 50mg with nic free at 50:50 you have… 25mg! It’s extremely common FYI
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nicotin is already tampering itself… least one could do is remove it.
barsoap@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Would you be saying the same thing if it was about diluting vodka with water?
…because that’s what mixing vape juice with juice base is.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Yes I would, tampering is dangerous shit even when you think you’re being benign about it.