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You are in this solar system, but we do not grant you the rank of planet

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Squorlple@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shoutout to the creep stalking me atm to spam downvote my comments. You know you can just block me, right? Grass is free to touch

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  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pluto will always be a planet to me, and you’ll pry that definition from my cold, dead hands!

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    • kbal@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Stay strong. A dwarf planet is a perfectly valid kind of planet, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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      • Neato@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not the size that counts but the ability to clear your orbit. ;)

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      • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Does it dig mines and sing upbeat work songs?

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    • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Arenyou gonna start calling Ceres, Haumea, Makemake, and Orcus planets?

      We went through this 150 years ago ehen the asteroid belt was discovered. Every astronomer wanted credit for discovering a new planet, so at one point there were 15 before all the astronomers got together and said it was untenable.

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      • Ultraviolet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes. We could have had a planet Orcus and we were like “nah, we’ll pass.” That would have been metal as shit.

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    • DigitalDruid@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      without orbital dominance?

      amazon.com ass planet with fake reviews.

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      • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So Neptune has a rogue rock in its orbit that also orbits the sun and we’re just gonna give Neptune a pass on that one because we saw it first.

        At best, this is size discrimination, and neptunotism, and we both know it!

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      • Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah but it’s delivered with a nice hand written note from a single mom in China so I 5 star anyways.

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      • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The central point that Pluto and Charon orbit about is also outside of Pluto. All other planets have the center point located within the planet.

        en.wikipedia.org/…/File:Pluto-Charon_system-new.g…

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    • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Real scientific, Jerry.

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      • DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hungry For Apples?

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    • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whatever, Pluto is a dwarf planet.

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    • crispyflagstones@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A dwarf planet is a type of planet, right?

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      • diverging@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not according to the IAU.

        According to the IAU, “planets and dwarf planets are two distinct classes of objects” – in other words, “dwarf planets” are not planets.

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      New Billy Joel song? I heard he’s writing again.

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  • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know, this post made me realize something. Some people are viewing it in terms of “rank”, instead of an arbitrary scientific classification designed to efficiently communicate ideas in a clear and concise way.

    It’s like … mythology or something, and the planet(oid) being anthropomorphized.

    Do people also view kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species as “ranks” of some sort, with some intrinsically greater value being given to some over others?

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    • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s like … mythology or something, and the planet(oid) being anthropomorphized.

      I mean, the planet(oid)s are named after gods.

      The personification of its classification is probably related to the exclusivity of the title and “bigger is better” mentality. Since every life form has a taxonomy for domain to species, there’s not really an exclusivity to each echelon. I don’t imagine anybody really thinks like this meme below, for example:

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      • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This makes me want to devise a tiered, inclusive classification scheme for space objects.

        We could start with orbital objects, any object that normally experiences regular, periodic orbits with minimal deviation. So, everything in the galaxy would be one except potentially Sag A, and the galaxy itself. Perhaps the next branching subsets could be things undergoing continuous fusion somewhere in their body or not?

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    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do people also view kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species as “ranks” of some sort, with some intrinsically greater value being given to some over others?

      Well, for humans we most certainly do

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      • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So, “homo” is better than “sapiens”? And “animal” is better than homo sapiens?

        Or do I have it backwards, and “lower” ranks are better? So, “pinus ponderosa” would be better than “plant”?

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it’ll matter a bit more once (if) we get to explore our solar system for real. I feel like right now the concept of “planet” is still rather distant in our minds and a lot of people just base it on vibes

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    • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hard not to anthropomorphize things when they’re named after our gods

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    • Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thing is everyone has one of those.

      Compare it to non-sentience, sentience, and sapience, to properly anthropomorphize it.

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      • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Every celestial body fits into a specific classification too.

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    • warmaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Planet Y

      In case it’s a dwarf

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      • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Planet ~x~

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  • wildcardology@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Damnit who let Elon name that planet?

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When ever Eris isn’t on screen everyone should be asking “Where’s Eris?”

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    • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Where is Eris? Is it safe? Is it all right?”

      “It appears that, in your anger… You classified it as a dwarf planet.”

      “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”

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      • Squorlple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hmmm… Lost a planet Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing.

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      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Our Ceres is perfectly legal

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    • OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Note: Eris died on the way back to his home minor planet.

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  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The planet formerly known as twitter.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Alright, if I ever talk about this planet this is what I’m calling it from now on.

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    aint no planet x coming cause aint no space cuz aint not globe earth

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    • shadearg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      aint no birds flying cause aint no worms cuz aint not soil earth

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    • DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Cease your investigation!

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS

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      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The them themself!

        pawb is down today

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  • Deebster@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine how poor Pluto would feel if we decided this new entry counted as a proper planet.

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    • RandomWalker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, man. Pluto doesn’t care any more. Even as a dwarf planet, he knows he’s still hot shit

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      • dumpsterlid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Pluto is the celestial body your Wife tells you not to worry about because “Oh, don’t worry it’s just Pluto coming over when you are out of town, and Pluto isn’t a planet so there is nothing for you to worry about”.

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    • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’d have to be exceptionally large to clear its orbital path at that distance from the sun. It’ll probably join Pluto in the dwarf planet category.

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    • Norgur@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He should pull himself up by his bootstraps and get his Alpha Planet grindset on. No one can be a proper planet with this Sigma Planet mindset

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  • someacnt_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is planet X really discovered?

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    • bstix@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They found more evidence for its existence recently, but no. Nobody has ever seen it or even found out in which direction to look. The evidence is that the other planets move in ways that only makes sense if there is some mass somewhere pulling their orbits.

      Sort of like having to discover the moon from watching the tides in the sea.

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      • DigitalDruid@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        this method is how we discovered Neptune and Pluto and many exoplanets. Kepler’s laws are extremely specific about orbits, so once you pin down the disturbances the planet makes you significantly narrow down the places it can be.

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      • someacnt_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Thought there were some significant progress…

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      • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Have they tried looking up towards the sky? I think they won’t find it underground.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I saw it named planet 9

    Named so here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Nine

    Planet X

    Ceres and Eris didn’t even get turns being planets

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    • diverging@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ceres was considered a planet in the first half of the 1800’s, along with a bunch of things in the asteroid belt. There was a point where there were 64 planets.

      In the present state of knowledge astronomers give us the following list:
      Sixty-four “primary planets” revolving round the Sun as our Earth does.
      Twenty satellites, including our Moon.
      Of the sixty-four primary planets fifty-six are asteroids, comparatively small bodies, all of which were discovered in this century, and fifty-two since the year 1844.]

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  • Zugyuk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Finally, all that yoyo polish!

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  • Nounka@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I believe there was a mathematical constant to find the space ( km/ lightyaers from the sun ) where a planet should be. Do’nt remember the name tho. Is pluto on the next ‘free space’ ?

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