Tankies, you can keep jumping servers because we blocked your old servers, and we’ll just keep blocking you. No one is interested in your brain damage
unsure why we are surprised lol
Submitted 8 months ago by spujb@lemmy.cafe to [deleted]
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Kedly@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It’s pretty obvious a ton of them have .world alts now and just brigade from those.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Tag em in app whenever you see em, makes life easier.
SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Mines a lemm.ee alt thank you very much
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
There are people who think they’re at all different?
I’m pretty sure lemmygrad was explicitly created to be the mask off equivalent of .ml
scytale@lemm.ee 8 months ago
There are users who don’t know why .ml was the domain that was used, only that it was the original instance so that’s what they chose to sign up with.
HenryWong327@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Yep when I first joined I thought it stood for main Instance.
hash0772@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Why was it the domain that was used?
spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
i don’t know that people think they are different per se, but i do see a strange sense of shock that the same people annoyed with one might also be annoyed at the other
Amanduh@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I leave them unblocked, I like seeing the crazies sometimes
spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
absolutely a valid position to have
ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 8 months ago
I block individuals. I think it can be good to expose myself to the eastern narrative a little since I’m only experiencing a western narrative. As well as eastern shitpost’s since I subscribe to 4chan
daq@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Most non-bots are from United States and know nothing about eastern narrative other than what russian and Chinese bots are feeding them.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thanks I need to get the wiggles out sometimes too
match@pawb.social 8 months ago
Wait, what’s lemmygrad?? I incorrectly inferred that lemmygrad was a disparaging name for lemmy.ml
mihnt@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
callmepk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Me when I see c/tankiejerk is leaking:
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
!tankiejerk@lemmy.world is the syntax for linking to communities. I feel it’s used too rarely on Lemmy, leading everyone to avoid using the few unique features that make the lemmyverse navigable. I’d never manage to reach the communities I’m searching for if not for easy linking.
callmepk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh, TIL. Is there any specific documentation for syntax like this for lemmy?
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Good thing you can block instances. : )
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
I don’t think that’s a good solution. If I personally block an instance they can still see my comments and posts and have full conversations alongside them that everybody except me can read. I reserve blocking for genuine harrasment, not horrible ideas in general. I’d rather be part of the discussion and use that to build a case for defederation if it’s really so bad I’d want to block them.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Agreed, and I think defederation from Lemmy.ml is overdue.
They’re a toxic mouthpiece for authoritarian governments pretending to be communists, especially the CCP but also the Kremlin. They’re the reason I won’t even admit to anyone that I use Lemmy.
I had an old account I abandoned because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted. Most of it was funny memes I was posting to help Lemmy grow.
They’re the same trashy people as Hexbear but with a nicer mask and surrounded by legitimate users who don’t realize what’s going on.
hark@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s not enough that you ignore views you don’t like, you must apparently stop everyone else on the same instance(s) as you from seeing these views. For our protection and safety, I assume?
TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That’s fair. I’m a filthy casual and thus blocking instances works fine for me (3 so far). User comments from those instances are shown to me with a spoiler tag and when I click on them I can still see them and even comment on them. But I’m happy that posts from those instances don’t show up in my feed.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
What we really need is a Schism, and for all the ml domains to defederate from the rest of the lemmyverse, and just become their own thing.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What we really need is a Schism, and for all the ml domains to defederate from the rest of the lemmyverse, and just become their own thing.
But due its size, it’s also full of regular people. !linux@lemmy.ml is a good Linux community. Why block the entire instance when the Mao fanboys are just active in certain politics communities?
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It takes minutes to create an account on an instance, it’s not hard to move a community.
byroon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh my god who cares, shut the fuck up
spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
womp womp that’s a mean comment
🚨🚨mean comment detected your opinion does not matter🚨🚨
FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Just block them if you care that much (or if you can’t, submit a github issue on the relebent repo)
Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why does this feel like a dark family secret.
realitista@lemm.ee 8 months ago
They’re our crazy uncle that we try to keep locked in the basement but sometimes guests hear the incomprehensible ranting from the cellar door.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Newbie here, do I not see lemmygrad stuff on my “all” feed because I am on the shitjustworks instance?
I can pull it up in the search bar, but don’t seem able to subscribe.
I probably need to watch a newbs guide to the fediverse video or something. Like I understand the basic idea, but not the nuances or technical stuff.
spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
defed.xyz lets you check.
looks like your instance is defederated by lemmygrad, so that’s probably what’s up.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yea I knew I had start looking up who is federated with whom. Thanks for the link!
Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Yeah. Also, your instance is pretty well known for doing little about the vast numbers of hard right and alt right individuals on it who seek out and harass left leaning individuals, so it’s in both instances best interest to be separated.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Thanks for the heads up. Outside of a couple instances I see mentioned all the time, Im not really sure of the differences between them all and their reputations. Lemmy world was my first attempt, but two or three times the account creation did not work. I’m sure it was user error, but I’m not sure how exactly I messed up.
Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Really? I just joined it cause I thought the instance name was hilarious.
YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 months ago
LOL
bloodfart@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
yes! @TheDude@sh.itjust.works doesn’t like grad and defederated from them.
here’s why in their own words:
The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship, and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said, sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day.
starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Actually, there was a vote immediately after the defederation to see whether people wanted lemmygrad refederated, and about 80-90% of the votes were to stay defederated, so it seems the users of sh.itjust.works also don’t like grad.
stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 months ago
Why do they run two lemmy instances?
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Obfuscation. They know lemmygrad is too obviously tankie for most people, but lemmy.ml is not so obvious. The .ml is a dogwhistle that a lot of users won’t understand, so they can buy some measure of legitimacy that way. I guess they keep lemmygrad because they also want a place where they can go full mask-off.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
If your theory is correct, then why would they also keep many of their users uninformed? Referring to Lemmy.ml, of course. You claim it’s for legitimacy, but doesn’t that cease to fulfill its purpose? Is the goal to make a generalist instance, but with slightly more MLs, but also divert the MLs to Lemmygrad?
I’m not sure your theory is correct, I think Lemmy.ml is just what it says it is: a generalist, FOSS and Privacy focused instance run by the devs, who are MLs.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ML wasn’t machine learning? 😱
YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 months ago
When everyone dislikes your poorly thought out reactions and you retort to that disdain with calls for nuking entire hemispheres of the only planet we can live on, you kinda have to hide your identity/ideologies by way of obfuscation.
They seem proud and vocal in their echo chamber but these fools are weaker than a watery shit irl.
RustyShackleford@programming.dev 8 months ago
Invertebrate shit-heels pretending to be tough with Molotov-sippy-cups.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Lemmy.ml is focused on FOSS and Privacy, and is generally a “generalist” instance with that FOSS and Privacy slant.
Lemmygrad.ml is an explicitly Marxist-Leninist instance for Marxist-Leninists.
They really aren’t comparable instances outside of the dev connection.
JimboDHimbo@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
They don’t. Its basically saying that both instances are leftist based, which is true.
SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
They are fascist based, not left
Kiwi_fruit@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Hi just migrated from Lemmy.ml. just wondering what a tankie actually is? I’ve heard it used a lot especially on Lemmy. My guess is some kind of pro CCP kind of communist but that’s my best guess
spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
yeah you p much got it
Albatross2724@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Does that mean most Americans are tankies when it comes to Israel’s ongoing genocide of Palestinians 🤔
Gabu@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Depends on whether the person saying it is a fellow leftie or a rightwinger brainlet. To the first, it’s what you described - an anti-Marxist communist. To the second group, anyone left of Nixon.
htrayl@lemmy.world 8 months ago
IMO a tankie on the left is just a pure anti-west authoritarian cosplaying as a communist - the communism is largely window dressing and they are generally perfectly happy defending Russia (obviously not communist) or authoritarian nonsense from China and other communist countries.
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wtf is an anti-Marxist communist? Is that like a swimmer that can’t swim?
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
man, I really need to create my own instance sometime.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I think for many is shock and surprise is that anything even remotely “ml” is even allowed. Like something illegal is being allowed in plain sight.
Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf 8 months ago
I’ve not been on here long enough to know what this is about, anyone care to explain?
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The ml stands for Marxist Leninist. Basically, it means the admins of an instance ending in ml has been some revolting politics.
Kedly@lemm.ee 8 months ago
In case you havent been here long enough to know what a Tankie is, on top of what everyone else has shared: A Tankie is a Communist who thinks Russia and China have done nothing wrong, they’ll try and make you think we call ALL communists/left leaning people Tankies, but no, the Tank part of Tankie comes from shit like Tiananmen Square where they used tanks to destroy their political opposition, and Tankies are perfectly fine with this/claim shit like Tiananmen Square is propoganda.
Tldr: Communist/Socialists/leftists who arent a fan of Russia and China’s dictatorial tendencies? Not a Tankie. Communist who’ll defend Russia and China to the point of thinking maybe Ukraine deserves to be invade and that Taiwan should be absorbed by China? Tankie
workerONE@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lemmy.ml is full of socialists!
egeres@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wait, I though lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml were about machine learning and gradient stuff
_donnadie_@feddit.cl 8 months ago
A lot of people in the lemmy.world instance loves to spend time making threads about .ml or lemmygrad. Sounds like unnecessary drama at least for the lemmy.ml instance.
emmie@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
ml is okayish compared to hexbear lol
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Lemmy.ml is still focused on FOSS and Privacy, Lemmygrad.ml is focused on Marxism-Leninism. As such, there are plenty of non-MLs on Lemmy.ml, including Anarchist communities, while this is banned on Lemmygrad.ml.
Very different instances, I wouldn’t call Lemmygrad.ml “mask off” Lemmy.ml.
Kedly@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Except lemmygrad users are realizing we all blocked their instance and are becoming more active in lemmy.ml to try and evade this, and so yeah, .ml is getting more and more like Lemmygrad
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Can’t wait for this to become a systemic issue with Lemmy. Why does everything have to be ruined by tankies and conservatives? They know that nobody wants to talk to them, but they will evade and disrespect the rules just to make other people miserable.
What a sad hobby.
lugal@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have an account on lemmygrad and when I created it, I was asked about my politics. They formally accepted every left ideology but when you say anything remotely anti-authoritarian, you get downvoted into oblivion
ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Mind boggling. Like seriously, I am as left wing as they come and for me that is defined by anti-authoritarian views. Fascists aren’t bad because they are the wrong kind of fascist.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Not doubting you, but what do you mean by “anti-authouritarian?” Presumably you’ve read Engels’ On Authority so you know what they are operating under the pretense of, I can see anti-Marxist takes getting removed or downvoted. It is Lemmygrad after all, not Lemmy EZLN or Lemmy Catalonia.
summerof69@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Meanwhile at c/worldnews they remove replies where people disagree that Ukraine is run by fascists and Putin should take it.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
.ml is rapidly becoming the joke of the fediverse with how unapologetically they hand out band for even mild wrong think.
Gabu@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s a straight lie. ML will quickly ban you for pointing out Russian astroturfing and Russian propaganda, but they barely give a shit about anything else.
optissima@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Got any fun or good examples?
Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just realized that .ml is a domain hack for tankies. Go figure.