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He’d be composed almost exclusively of logical inconsistencies.
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Submitted 8 months ago by xfreed@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
He’s an LLM?
dezmd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You jest, but, for reals maybe.
JoBo@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Would They be able to make a curry so hot They could not eat it?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
procrastitron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No, they wouldn’t.
They would exist outside of our universe (since they created the universe), so the rules of physics in our universe don’t apply to them.
Even if the reality they existed in had something equivalent to atoms, it would be inaccurate to call those “atoms” since they are in different realities.
suzune@ani.social 8 months ago
I agree. I imagine I am a character in a game and God is the gamer playing the game. OP just asked, if God is made of pixels. Imagine this weird question…
johnlobo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
perfect analogy. 😂
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Wait that’s just the plot to reboot
yarr@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Arguably, couldn’t the creator exist in a parallel universe and have created ours?
charonn0@startrek.website 8 months ago
According to the best current understanding of physics, atoms didn’t come into existence until several hundred thousand years after the Big Bang. That would seem to rule out an atom-based creator.
Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What the fuck, I find a new rabbit hole every day. Thank you!
bassomitron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That would only rule out the creator being within the universe when the big bang occurred, right?
charonn0@startrek.website 8 months ago
Perhaps. But that’s several leaps of faith away from anything we can know.
TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 8 months ago
No, since it would have created atoms, right?
GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Eh that’s inconsistent. An all-powerful being could certainly have self assembled, and assembled the stuff it’s assembled out of.
If that sounds ridiculous, it is.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I alwas think about “god” as energy itself. wasn’t created not can be destructed, is everywhere, everytime, all at once. The thing that makes atoms possible. It’s not made of anything
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 months ago
He would be made out of Alanis Morissette.
someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Boop.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He’s like raiiyaiyiyiaaiiin on my wedding day.
cloudless@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If we live in a computer simulation, then yes the creator could be made out of atoms. They just need to make a computer that simulates whatever physics they like.
But in a purely physical world that we understand, I think this question is too hard to answer. If they are in the 4th dimension and being able to manipulate space and time, or even the laws of nature, then anything is possible.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Time is the fourth dimension
cloudless@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah I should have said higher dimensions.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If we live in a computer simulation, then yes the creator could be made out of atoms.
That logic doesn’t work out.
Your simulation would need to simulate the atoms that we know before it can simulate the world as we know it.
But then you can’t know what it’s creator is made of - just not from these simulated atoms.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Since have no knowledge about any hypothetical creator there is no way to answer this question.
BmeBenji@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I don’t believe that’s possible, depending on what you mean by “supreme creator.” If you’re talking about the being that created everything we can possibly perceive, witness, or even theorize, then I don’t think so, or at least I don’t think It could have always been composed of atoms.
If this being created atoms, it would be logically inconsistent to consider this being to have been consisting of what It created. That being said if, this being also created the laws of logic through which we are capable of understanding anything at all, then why not? If these laws of logic did not exist before the creator of these laws of logic, then why would this creator be bound by them?
TL;DR nobody can possibly answer this question with any grounded certainty whatsoever.
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Bob was the first. It was only bob and the universe sized computer. Bob decided that he would simulate a universe with his universe sized computer. Then big bang happened. Now bob is everywhere. Through observation we can infer that he was made out of atoms.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
No. Just like how a baker isn’t made a cake, a creator isn’t made of creation and is uncreated.
acutfjg@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Bad analogy. Both made of atoms
Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not a bad analogy, poor understanding. To the cake all there is is cake, the baker is not made of the same ingredients.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes.
But their’s are shinier.
Muscar@discuss.online 8 months ago
What?
gunpachi@lemmings.world 8 months ago
God probably exists outside of our understanding . There may be things different from atoms, that we humans are not able to conceptualize. So god may very well be made out of something other than atoms.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Or, it’s all random. There might be a connection amongst living things. It’s hard to say if that is considered a god.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What always hurts my brain is what existed before the big bang, and what about before even that and so on.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“God probably exists outside our understanding”, but people have an understanding of what God is (made in his image, yadda yadda). So if there is a god like being that looks completely different than our understanding god then it’s not really god is it?
Yots92@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I personally think that what we call “God” is the spiritual outcome of one’s good deeds.
Same for the good and wicked gods of past: you did harm, you were letting yourself be handled by Hel\Ares\Necron, you did good, you were letting Krishna\Yawhe\Amaterasu lead you.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 months ago
What we call god is a bedtime story intended to control the unwashed masses.
Yots92@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I know god is not real I just wrote sort of a metaphysical, personal explanation for it ;)
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sometimes they get their feet washed.
someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
If God created atoms, then likely no.
dezmd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But if we’re created in his image, couldn’t that indicate at an atomic or subatomic level?
What if we cant see God because he’s just a particular string cluster of atomic or subatomic particles?
shadowSprite@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What if we can’t see God because we’re all just a bunch of random synapses firing in some higher beings brain while they’re having a fever dream? After our world “ends” they’re gonna wake up and go “holy shit that was a fucked up dream”
Krudler@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Since the concept of God is unique to each individual, and totally irrational, and basically non-existent in an objective sense, the answer would be no.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Only in the sense that the Pythagorean Theorem is made of atoms
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If we’re talking deities, as in supernatural creator beings, the answer would be yes when they want to be made of atoms and no when they don’t want to be. If they have the power of creation and form reality itself, their nature, both physical and spiritual, would be whatever they choose, right?
If we’re talking non-infinite mind creating a simulated universe that we live in, then it’s more likely that they are made of something, though it may not be atoms or matter as we understand it. They would preaumably occupy some sort of physical universe with laws and something like matter to give it physical properties, but there is no reason to assume that the nature of the universe would resemble or own or follow the same laws. Atoms and other forms of matter that we have in our universe may be a construct of our simulation, rather than a constant truth in all universes. And honestly, their universe may not even be physical at all in the sense that we all understand it. The answer is that we don’t know, have no way to know, and may not even have the capacity to understand even if we were given the answer.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
The Christian God follows this quite well, especially with the concept of the Trinity.
hperrin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Probably not. Christians believe he created atoms, so certainly not in Christianity.
Fondots@lemmy.world 8 months ago
On the other hand, they also believe that we were created in his image, so perhaps he created atoms because he himself is made of atoms.
hperrin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Playing devil’s advocate, I think the argument would say that he isn’t made of anything since he created everything, and he is indivisible.
olafurp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In Christianity God is Jesus and Jesus was made of atoms. Thus God did exist and was made of atoms at one point at least.
Worx@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Not all forms of Christianity believe in the Trinity. God and Jesus are different people in some forms
Siegfried@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think God is the energy that bind us all together… or the friends we made along the way, I dont know any more. In the first case, no, in the second, yes
olafurp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Assuming that a supreme creator exists and that he created the entire universe then we’re in the wild west since science only deals with known things and this divine spiritual can’t be measured or examined.
That makes all answers to this question would be pure speculation to make it fit into our understanding of the world as we know it and resulting in a big “we don’t know”.
Assuming he/she is made of atoms and given we haven’t seen it on earth we can more or less determine that it’s either smaller than a human or not on the earth or in the atmosphere. It can also exist in another reality that can’t be seen or measured from ours deep inside the earth or ocean.
To actually get anywhere with this question you’ll have to make a lot assumptions until almost all the assumptions become the answer.
MacedWindow@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Its like asking a caveman if the sky is made of water. There is just no way for them to give the right answer without taking a guess and getting lucky.
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Breaking news: microplastics found inside supreme creator
MissJinx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The supreme leader already have it
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