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• NickwithaC@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Zack Polanski just stood on stage at Pride in London and said trans women are women so I will be interested to see his actions on this.

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  • Andy_R@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Probably silence like what he is with the anti-Zionists who were purged despite his big talk on Israel.

    Polanski is proving to be a bit of a figure head.

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    • mjr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Polanski is proving to be a bit of a figure head.

      Well yes, that’s part of a leader’s role.

      Actually leading is another part, but can you blame him for going “I’m not touching that minefield yet.”?

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  FFS.

  How is even the green party transphobic now? I’m actually shocked

  Not only is it incredibly disappointing to find out, it’s absolutely going to massacre their support. Most of the TERFs are comfortably voting for the right wing parties, they are never in a million years voting for the greens.

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  • Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s nothing new.

    Scottish Greens suspend ties with Green Party of England and Wales

    The formal association between the parties was suspended over concerns of transphobia

    Members stated that office-bearers of the Green Party of England and Wales had engaged in “transphobic rhetoric and conduct”, and claimed that the independence of the Scottish Greens had been ignored.

    They also underlined the importance of protecting the rights of transgender people to gender affirming healthcare.

    news.stv.tv/…/scottish-greens-suspend-ties-with-g…

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    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And the reason that Scottish Greens are working with Greens E&W is…they drummed the transphobes out of the party…

      Yes, the Greens E&W were at one stage captured by Terfs - that’s history and no longer the case

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  • Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s everywhere, disgusting

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• thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I can’t believe anyone believes what the right wing media write about a left wing party, but be that as it may, Eleanora wasn’t suspended because she was trans, she was suspended because she made comments on social media likely to bring the Greens into disrepute while holding an official post (ordinary members can say what they like, representatives of the party can’t). The party is investigating those comments to see what disciplinary action should be taken and her role is suspended while that happens.

  The comments in question were blatantly anti-semitic (as opposed to anti-zionist which I have no problem with) in my opinion, and I doubt she’ll be allowed to retain the post. I’m sure everyone on here understand the difference ? The Daily Mail certainly doesn’t though.

  This reddit thread has more details from Greens party members

  reddit.com/…/stats_4_lefties_suspended_according_…

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Once again, precisely zero hard evidence

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    • Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Zero hard evidence on either side, though. She says she was suspended due to transphobia but provides no evidence that this was the case. There are plenty of Green trans councillors that haven’t been suspended, so what’s going on?

      I would not be inclined to pick sides here until the truth actually comes out.

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    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What evidence are you looking for ? I’ve stated the Greens have made no formal statement on it - because that’s the process when someone is suspended and their conduct is being reviewed - unlike the Mail I don’t just make shit up to make the readers happy

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  • wpb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This reddit thread has more details from Greens party members

    No it doesn’t? Is there any particular comment you’re talking about here? Because I see nothing that indicates that she said anything antisemitic.

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    • Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah I’m looking for that too. Seems like antisemetic is hardly ever backed up as a slander when used against leftists.

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  • SourGumGum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No one here believes the right wing media, we believe the he victim who is the one in OPs post where they specifically say they are not linking to the right wing sources.

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  • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And the anti-semitism was what? Her support for Iran against the genocidal US and Israel?

    You really should have to qualify smears like this without just vague posting about it. Let others see what you think was anti-semitic and let them judge for themselves.

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• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Here’s a Bluesky thread by another trans Green party memeber that I think is worth considering.

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  • TRAHR@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Please take a look at Kai Taylor, the Greens Party Council member in these discussions.

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    He is abusing the definition of transphobia to claim Gender Critical ideology is not transphobia. GC also known as TERF is 100% transphobia.

    That’s not enough?

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    He is endorsed by MumsNet, one of the most prominent TERF hubs and trans hate communities.

    Oh and don’t forget

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    Who are Green Women’s Declaration? They’re the group of transphobes who the Good Law Project is currently defending the Greens party from as of a week ago because they were denied an application to hold a stall at th e Green conference in 2025 because it was felt they made trans members unsafe.

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    • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Gender “critics” aren’t the same as TERFs, almost none of them are radical feminists. They’re liberal feminists at best, and most of them aren’t any kind of feminist.

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    • soyaEnjoyer@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is the actual important info. A Marxist Trans woman was stitched up by terfs. The green party of England and Wales is riddled with them. ukkk

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  • eleijeep@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Can someone summarise this? I don’t visit corposhit media sites.

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    • Quokka@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “I don’t think it’s because she’s trans, I was discriminated for the same wording as her but I actually think it’s because she’s not nice and was a bully to me when I worked with her once and she praised the deaths of Zionists”

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “I don’t think it’s because she’s trans. I’ve faced the discrimination she’s claiming, but in the years since we’ve taken the party back and it’s generally very pro trans, including other trans people sitting in gendered seats aligning with their genders. Instead it’s likely about her hostile behaviors and some statements she’s made”

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• ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Okay… but this person was elected, right…? Does the GPC feel that the people who did the electing were somehow misled?

  This just seems like a real self-mutilation in all respects. The GPC have pissed off everyone that there is to piss off.

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  • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There are several other trans members on the GPC… she didn’t get suspended for being trans, she got suspended for breaking party rules on conduct by committee members.

    This is from the (trans) member whose bluesky post is elsewhere in the thread (Kat Bristow) taken from the reddit post I linked

    “TheKatBristow

    There’s other trans women currently on GPC, including the other co-chair of LGBTIQA+ Greens, and no action has been taken against any other trans person on GPC.

    So we can safely assume that Eleonora’s suspension is unrelated to her being trans.”

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    • Quokka@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So we can safely assume that Eleonora’s suspension is unrelated to her being trans.”

      Or we can assume they don’t have any support/angles to go after other trans women yet. It seems pretty evident that strong elements of transphobia are at play in this decision via Kai Taylor’s involvement.

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can’t safely assume this and I don’t know why you would. There is even discrimination amongst trans people. I could be an issue of passing not passing. We definitely need more information.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s still sort of ridiculous that they’ve suspended her and haven’t put her to statement as to why. The really should be no scenario under which you can suspend someone without an explanation.

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    • internetisnotthesame@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I will strongly disagree with this statement, as there’s a serious allegation against GPC, and no legal justification has been published by the authorities.

      If there’s a legal reason with backing evidence, there’s no reason not to share why she was dismissed, and public has every right to know this decision, that’s exactly why we have the transparency laws.

      Your statement is no different than an assumption where an immigrant claiming they were not discriminated in Germany yet, therefore there’s no discrimination against other immigrants.

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    • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Are the other trans women in GPC in woman only positions?

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  • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “this person” 🤨

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• itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Fucking hell. I need TERF Island to burn already. Fuck this transphobic piece of shit party.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.

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    • itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      ‘No but look they’re actually running defense!’ Yeah sure. I’m Trans, I’ve seen this shit before. This proves nothing other than they’re doing damage control.

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  “the party sent me aonk to a suicide hotline”

  That is the most caring / not-caring bullshit I think I have ever scene. I hope everyone who decided this regrets this the rest of their shit lives. Time to clean up the green!

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• Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Whilst I’m a trans ally, I am a little sceptical on this one. I’m going to wait for the official response from the Green Party on this one before judging. So far we have seen no proof of any of this.

  The lady in question is a bit of a bit of an inflammatory individual from the little I’ve seen from her socials.

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  • mjr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The discussion above implies that there may not be a party response due to “confidentiality” which seems odd when the party has defamed someone. I’d expect the ejectee would waive confidentiality.

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    • ToastedRavioli@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Defamation requires some degree of lying to damage someones reputation, so this is not defamation.

      Technically they suspended them for being elected and for the subsequent media interest, per their own words. Both of those things factually occurred

      There is much that could be said about how fucked up that is, but it is also not defamation

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah, seeing more info, I’ve got my doubts about her story, especially considering another trans member of the party is calling bs

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    • SourGumGum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve got my doubts on that other trans women when she provides nothing beyond an anecdotal unrelated story and the person involved in kicking her out is extremely transphobic and backed by other transphobes.

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• decolo@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Can’t we have one nice thing politically. fuck sake

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• atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This fits into "NotTheOnion" because what the fuck? It sounds like something Reform would do. is this real?

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  • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No it’s not real, it’s being misrepresented. Eleanora is suspended for reasons nothing to do with her being trans. She’s a toxic piece of work who also happens to be trans, and is trying to make that into the reason.

    There are a number of transwomen in various positions in the party, including posts to be filled by women only.

    She was suspended for the comments she made about Iran which were blatantly anti-semitic (anti-zionist is fine, but she well and truly crossed the line).

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    • decolo@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      She may well be toxic but if that was the main reason she’s being removed, they should be up front about it. And not have a very terf seeming man involved in removing her.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This would be compelling with sources; the OP explicitly disputes some of these points afaict.

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    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What “antisemitic” thing are you talking about?

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If that were true then they should have said that as the official reason for her being suspended, but they didn’t which makes it seem more like you’re completely wrong

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  • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It sounds like something Reform would do

    Welcome to Zionism

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    • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Aren't the Green Anti-Zionist?

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That needs an explanation

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• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Liar.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ok so what actually happened

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    • j_overgrens@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      She (repeatedly) praised the Islamic Republic.

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  • soyaEnjoyer@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The queer greens are a bunch of libs who talk like they got their civics education from the daily mail. They are not reliable narrators and are not even involved in this situation.

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• theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Clickable link to support :)

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  • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Dunno what’s responsible, but I couldn’t open this directly - nothing happened, presumably due to the tinyurl link. Put it through my URL cleaner app and wound up at the following address after a few redirects:

    docs.google.com/forms/d/e/…/viewform?usp=send_for…

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    • mjr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Oh good, google, nothing wrong with their support for the green party and they’d never mess with politics(!)

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    • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thanks for the heads up, I didnt check the link, looks like it is working now though.

      Either way people have a choice now too :D

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  • Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Broken link.

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• Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If she did not get suspended due to being trans but yet now doing this in an attempt to damage the reputation of the Green party, then she is an incredibly selfish person. This, especially considering the UK is literally fighting against a looming Trump style fascism.

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• Soot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m just gonna get out in front on this one and say this is the Green Party for England and Wales. Other UK Greens are available.

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• zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  For a little context that may be useful, Unison, the trade union, got into a legal dispute over one of their women officer roles having a trans woman stand for it. She didn’t even win but some transphobic weirdo raised a dispute because her votes could have gone to someone else and maybe potentially caused someone else to win. The complainant won after a lot of fighting Unison, and Unison have had to have a re-think about how the women’s officer works in light of the new transphobic laws.

  The greens probably panicked and didn’t want a legal battle. The entryists have hit their first major roadblock it seems.

  For info: …org.uk/…/response-decision-made-certification-of…

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  • tenebrisnox@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Who are the “entryists”?

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    • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Eleanora is amongst many others who flooded into the Green party after the fall out of Your Party hoping to move it to a more explicitly socialist position.

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• Xenny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Green is the color of sickness

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    She was suspended for actual antisemitism so

    No, lmao, 🤡

    Now if you want to talk about how Zionist genocides are promoting the resurgence of genuine antisemitism across the world and political spectrum, and it’s not just a problem for the right, that’s worth talking about.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  not much of a quorum with just 13 of 36

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