I always found his frantic fest if nihilism to be a little adolescent, like “how could humanity possibly survive the death of God? How will we live a life without inherent existential or moral purpose?” You just do, Freddy.
Anon reads nihilist philosophy
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Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 3 hours ago
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Yet here we are, celebrating people whose moral purpose is evil at best.
ZMoney@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Yeah and Kierkegaard already solved this decades before him, in exactly the way you describe (although he didn’t personally think it was possible).
csolisr@hub.azkware.net 17 hours ago
To a few philosophers, particularly the hardcore rationalists, Nietzsche's struggle for self-ownership as meaning was, in modern terms, a truckload of copiumflandish@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
yeah. didn’t he get turned down on a proposal, he had someone else make, and kinda get cucked? he was prob an incel of his time, huh?
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
I can see the argument for that. It kind of fits the narrative of “slave morality”. Can I read these philosophers statements? I kind of want to know what they’re about
csolisr@hub.azkware.net 16 hours ago
On the rationalist hub per excellence, LessWrong: lesswrong.com/posts/NxYgL5nPMT…
Criticism of Nietzsche has been out there for a good while. Bertrand Russell, for example, wasn't a fan of Nietzsche, calling his ideology "an appeal to the emotions": reddit.com/r/Nietzsche/comment…
Calling Nietzsche's philosophy "irrationalist" is still a common trend: monthlyreview.org/articles/on-…
Even Marxists hammer on Nietzsche's hardcore individualism: queer-bolshevik.medium.com/a-c…
lung@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
The fun thing is that if the universe has no meaning then it has no meaning that it has no meaning so you might as well relax and be positive since that has many obvious benefits. Not that I’m a nihilist
wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 15 hours ago
hedonistic meaningless living As if a life embedded in asceticism was supposed to be any more meaningful
FavouriteShapes@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Right! I’m glad to see someone thinking critically about what hedonism to fundamentslly means, rather than relying on the more pejorative usage of the term.
I realised once that, even tho I was a drug free tee totaller who didn’t party or have sex much, I was still a hedonistic at that time because I played videogames as much as possible.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
What would be considered hedonistic back then? Talking a walk in the woods and climbing mountains for pleasure?
vegafjord@slrpnk.net 11 hours ago
Paganism is good though. Praise wilderness!
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
(my body is devoid of worldly power but I low-key agree because physically building personal meaning and protecting the wilderness trumps all)
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Having kids (one of whom is special needs) plucked me out of the nihilism well that I was drowning in. I’m so thankful for them. Now, I don’t even have time to think or contemplate life. lol
Carnelian@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
If you accept that caring for the wellbeing of your kids is inherently meaningful then you must also accept there is meaning inherent in taking care of your own self :3
baines@lemmy.cafe 13 hours ago
only while the kids exist as you forced them into existence thereby incurring the responsibility
for a thought experiment, imagine you could see your entire life and decide to be born or not based in your mind at the point of death
what would be the point of living a ‘bad’ life?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
I’m sure they’ll be grateful for their chance to pick between being a soldier in the Water Wars, or maybe getting lucky enough to find a human job that pays in food and living accommodations.
Sorry to be that nihilist but I am so grateful for finding a partner that agrees that reproduction is wildly irresponsible to both the world, and that future being who you KNOW and cannot deny that existence will likely be worse for in basically the first time in human existence outside of the world wars and the Black Death.
If I were forced to switch places with a child today I would be pretty upset about the future I had been subject too. But they’re just so cute right? And all my friends are having them too!
Downvote away!
Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
First time? - Epicuros
majster@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Some author I read said that nihilism can only be temporary and then natural evolution will be towards stoicism/pragmatism. Later she argued that pragmatism isn’t so awesome either, but no concrete arguments were put forward. Quiet pragmatic
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
“That’s Cute.” -Machiavelli
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
Ooh. Very stigmatized ethos surrounding that one. Guess I need to find out what the heck happened there
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The short version is that Machiavelli is a rather profound Stoic philosopher, but everyone misses that in a lot of his work he is being slightly sarcastic to throw the “powers that be” off the scent that he was criticizing them. When you hear how he suggests that “Princes should be feared rather than respected.” he actually calling out the despots of his day. It’s kind of how Stephen Colbert portrayed a right wing pundit on “The Colbert Report” as a way of satirizing right-wing pundits.
mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
Active vs passive nihilism
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach you 'bout the raising of the wrist. (Socrates himself was permanently pissed).