We can't keep tying healthcare to employment

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• Gust@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

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  Okay but it was kinda easy for a connect the dots puzzle

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• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Here is a list of the 49 individuals. Names help give weight to accusations of wealth hoarding.

  www.advisory.com/…/healthcare-billionaires

  From the article: Forbes divided its list of billionaires into several categories, including industry and country. The billionaires from the United States in the healthcare industry were:

  48. Thomas Frist, Jr. & family, founder of Hospital Corp. of America ($41.1 billion)

  49. Carl Cook, current CEO of medical device manufacturer Cook Group ($11.7 billion)

  50. Robert Duggan, co-CEO of Summit Therapeutics ($11.6 billion)

  51. Charlie Mills, chair of medical supplies company Medline ($11.4 billion)

  52. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a physician and inventor of the blockbuster cancer drug Abraxane ($10.5 billion)

  53. John Brown, former chair of medical device and software company Stryker Corp. ($8.5 billion)

  54. Ronda Stryker, current director of Stryker Corp. ($8.5 billion)

  55. Li Ge, chair and CEO of Wuxi Apptec, which provides research and clinical trial services to biotech and pharmaceutical industries worldwide ($7.6 billion)

  56. Reinhold Schmieding, founder of Arthrex, an orthopedic surgical tools company ($6 billion)

  57. Andy Mills, director and former president of Medline ($5.7 billion)

  58. Jon Stryker, grandson of Homer Stryker, founder of Stryker Corp. ($5.7 billion)

  59. Wendy Abrams, shareholder in Medline, which was founded by her father Jon Mills and uncle Jim Mills ($4.7 billion)

  60. Nancy Mills Barnett, shareholder in Medline, which was founded by her father Jon Mills and uncle Jim Mills ($4.4 billion)

  61. Steward Rahr, who expanded Kinray and sold it to Cardinal Health in 2010 ($4.3 billion)

  62. Pat Stryker, granddaughter of Homer Stryker, founder of Stryker Corp. ($4.1 billion)

  63. Margaret Baker, shareholder in Medline, which was founded by her father Jon Mills and uncle Jim Mills ($3.9 billion)

  64. August Troendle, CEO of Medpace, a clinical research company ($3.5 billion)

  65. Keith Dunleavy & family, founder of Inovalon, a cloud-based software and healthcare analytics firm ($3.4 billion)

  66. Wayne Rothbaum, founder of investment firm Quogue Capital and successful biotech investor ($2.9 billion)

  67. Leonard Schleifer, cofounder and CEO of drugmaker Regeneron ($2.8 billion)

  68. David Dean Halbert, who built the diagnostics firm Caris Life Sciences ($2.6 billion)

  69. Jason Murray, cofounder, chair, and CEO of PACS Group, which operates skilled nursing facilities ($2.4 billion)

  70. Mark Hancock, cofounder and EVP of PACS Group ($2.4 billion)

  71. Vivek Ramaswamy, biotech entrepreneur, author, and Republican politician who ran for president in 2024 ($2.4 billion)

  72. David Paul, founder and executive chair of Globus Medical, a spine implant manufacturer ($2.4 billion)

  73. Phillip Frost, a long-time healthcare investor, inventor and founder who now runs diagnostics maker Opko Health ($2.3 billion)

  74. Alan Miller & family, founder of Universal Health Services ($2.1 billion)

  75. Randal J. Kirk, former attorney and executive chair of investment firm Third Security ($2 billion)

  76. Amy Wyss, daughter of Hansjoerg Wyss, who founded the medical equipment firm Synthes ($2 billion)

  77. John Abele & family, cofounder of Boston Scientific ($2 billion)

  78. James Leininger, founder of Kinetic Concepts, a medical devices company ($1.9 billion)

  79. Noubar Afeyan, founder and CEO of life sciences innovation firm Flagship Pioneering ($1.9 billion)

  80. John Oyler, CEO, cofounder, and chair of global oncology company BeOne Medicines ($1.9 billion)

  81. Forrest Preston, founder of Life Care Centers of America ($1.8 billion)

  82. Gary Michelson, a retired orthopedic and spinal surgeon who holds roughly 340 U.S. patents for orthopedic and spinal surgery instruments ($1.8 billion)

  83. George Yancopoulos, chief scientific officer at Regeneron ($1.8 billion)

  84. Martine Rothblatt, cofounder of Sirius Satellite Radio and founder of United Therapeutics ($1.7 billion)

  85. Hao Hong, chair of Asymchem Laboratories, which provides pharmaceutical outsourcing services ($1.7 billion)

  86. Lee Sang-hoon, founder, chair, CEO and chief research officer of ABL Bio ($1.6 billion)

  87. Rick Workman, founder and chair of Heartland Dental, the largest dental support organization in the United States ($1.6 billion)

  88. Herriot Tabuteau, founder of Axsome Therapeutics ($1.5 billion)

  89. Jeff Tangney, cofounder of Doximity, also known as “LinkedIn for doctors” ($1.4 billion)

  90. Ed Park, cofounder of Devoted Health, a healthcare company focused on older Americans ($1.4 billion)

  91. Todd Park, cofounder of Devoted Health ($1.4 billion)

  92. Joe Kiani, founder of medical technology firm Masimo Corp. ($1.2 billion)

  93. Yu De-Chao, chair and CEO of Innovent Biologics ($1.1 billion)

  94. Timothy Springer, an immunologist and professor of biological chemistry and molecular pharmacology at Harvard Medical School ($1.1 billion)

  95. Michelle Xia, cofounder, chair, and CEO of biotech firm Akeso ($1.1 billion)

  96. Wu Jinzi, founder, chair, and CEO of Ascletis Pharma ($1 billion)

  (How depressing to have over three thousand individuals worth the vast majority of wealth in this world)

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Hospital Corp. of America

    That is the most on-the-nose American-ass name I’ve ever seen for one of our companies, not just a healthcare one.

    It’s right up there with the places of worship named “church of god.”

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• absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t live in the US. But from the outside…

  We can’t keep tying healthcare to employment

  You can; and you will.

  I unfortunately don’t see structural reform in your short to medium term future.

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  • BussyGyatt@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They probably meant to write ‘shouldn’t.’

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  • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Given that establishment Democrats are actively working with Republicans to prevent progressives from winning primaries, I’d say you’re overly optimistic.

    It’s only in our future if we take it by force.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In short term people are going to start dying a whole lot, and the rest of us will realize we have nothing left to lose.

    It’s going to be ugly.

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    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It really is sad. You should have better.

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• BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah I think people have connected the dots, that doesn’t magically take the power away from the people holding healthcare hostage. Right now the debate is “are you going to give people a reasonable standard of living through civil processes or do we have to rip you apart and eat you?”

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  • areakode@riskeratspizza.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    lol. I think we all know the answer to that question…

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      cough Mario Party cough

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The only reason this is the setup. Was under FDR the top tax bracket was 94% of gross pay.

  For the insanely highly paid, it just wasn’t cost effective to keep paying CEOs so much, so companies made amazing healthcare packages to stand out to potential employees.

  That was 80 years ago, and all the good bits are gone and the shit remains.

  We need to fix our healthcare, but absolutely nothing is more important than getting that top tax rate back up to around 94% or even higher. That has to be the highest priority, because that’s how we pay for everything and fight wealth inequality

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  • AmyAye@nord.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Any “Income” calculated as “Increase in Worth” above 10 million dollars gets taxed at 100%.

    Done. Easy.

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• EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I love posts like this because the comments always devolve into 50/50 people who don’t live in the country (doesn’t need to be the US, it could be the UK or Belgium or Singapore) being discussed telling others to either throw their entire life away on the thin hope that they spark a revolution, or simply commit suicide by cop while getting shot disobeying, all from the safety of their living room.

  The only people who are capable of connecting the dots already know what needs done to get desired results, either peacefully or through violence, and are either doing everything they can to make sure it DOESN’T turn to violence, or preparing for when violence does happen.

  <personal vent>

  People like me can’t feasibly do any more than we are without taking hits to health and sanity. I am trying to change local government, I am campaigning for left candidates, and I’m organizing local minorities and we are learning self defense, forms of active and passive resistance, firearms and team cooperation exercises, etc… And when you’re caring for a disabled partner full time all that shit piles up fast. I haven’t even had time to look for a job this past month.

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  • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In my opinion this is applicable to virtually any political discourse on lemmy though. Overwhelmingly progressive, left leaning, politically informed.

    I myself am often annoyed with the literal echo chamber effect of people dropping facts and entire paragraphs in the comments like there is an audience to be convinced, when in fact everyone already knows and has read and heard the argument dozens of times.

    At the same time i don’t want to engage with right wingers either, so political monoculture it is.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This time, though, we’re not just talking about Carnegies and Rockefellers. In the 2020s the first estate has four times the wealth that it did during the gilded age.

    It’s not just enough to buy elections and control government, it’s enough to buy all the elections internationally, and control all the governments.

    And we’re already seeing how in the rest of the industrialized world how far right movements are gaining traction in nations that have been weakened by decades of neoliberal policies (e.g. policies that favor private corporate interests and disfavor the public).

    That is to say, watch carefully what happens here in the States, because wherever you are, they’re trying the same thing, and have high tech and lots of money.

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• dorumon@lemmy.cafe ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As someone who is going to die from lack of healthcare. It’s frustrating but what am I supposed to do in this situation? At the end of the day I’ll be another statistic but I’m kinda hopeful that it’ll be over soon. If worst comes to worst I’ll go to the ER but I have been getting gradually better minus the heart attacks.

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  • Master_Suck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Thanks for sharing. I assume you have a diagnosis, but you don’t have coverage for the treatment?

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Have you met my friend Luigi?

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    • Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The guy in his 20s, with ample access to education and credit, wealthy parents, and no responsibilities, that Luigi? Yeah, I’ve heard of him. What are the rest of us supposed to do?

      What’s someone in their mid-forties, no college education, bad credit, an ex-wife, two kids, and debt up to their eyeballs supposed to do? We can’t take a month of work to (allegedly) buy fake IDs, a gun, and a suppressor, travel the country, stalk a CEO, and then go into hiding indefinitely with no job or income. What options do those people have? That’s what matters because most US Americans are closer to being like that than being like Luigi.

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  • skvlp@lemmy.wtf ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    All the best to you, stranger 😕

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• Lor@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have been saying this for YEARS. It is how the capitalistic overlords want it and why they throw money against medicare for all.

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• HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Profit based health insurance is immoral.

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• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Problem is not connecting the dots the problem is being able to change something about it when the regulatory is controlled by the people who profit from the dots

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  all you guys ever do is connect dots. do something with the information, please.

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  • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What are you doing

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      watching from the other side of the world, writing to my mep’s, talking about inequality with people irl, asking local politicians to explain themselves at open houses, tearing down right-wing stickers and posters… the usual

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• atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s really weird to me is that there are already at least two federal universal healthcare systems in the US covering some 3.5 million people but for some reason we still can’t figure this out.

  • IHS
  • VA

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  • ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, to be fair they keep making cuts to the VA and then it’s had bad pr for as long as I can remember

    In seriousness, nothing radicalized me more than when I finally got into the VA system and suddenly my medical and mental care needs were being taken care of with no cost to me. It makes me so angry that people have to be seriously injured in the military just to have full and free access to care

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A reasonable solution has always been the “medicare for all” concept: just lower the eligibility age by a couple of years every year. Going from 65 to 0 would have taken just over thirty years, and if this had been implemented in the '90s when it was first suggested we’d have universal healthcare by now. Hilary Clinton was lauded for pushing for universal healthcare when her husband was president, but apparently she wanted instant universal healthcare and fought the “medicare for all” contingent. I don’t think she was as responsible for bad shit as is often made out, but it’s pretty clear that she didn’t help in this case.

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• Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Down from 50 I guess, so that’s good

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And after healthcare: pensions

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