They're F*ing trying again
Submitted 2 weeks ago by irate944@piefed.social to [deleted]
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irate944@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jesus. I’m not in the EU, but how is this the first I’m hearing about this?
Time to go back to email and GnuPG.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because they’re trying to suppress the public reaction.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
yeah i keep thinking, we’re not getting around the law. we have to get an effective implementation though by using 3rd party platforms, i.e. ones that don’t conform to legal pressure.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Never forget that Epstein was talking about fucking children in plaintext on Gmail and they did nothing whenever you see politicians say encryption should be illegal so they can capture criminals.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If they wanted to do anything about pedophiles, they could.
removed is in the Netherlands, an EU country, right? A website that has hosted child pornography for more than a decade (Amanda Todd killed herself in 2012? They took it down for a little while after that whole “global network of guys raping their sleeping partners and uploading it” thing earlier this year, but it’s up again. I doubt it would take more than 10 minutes to find illegal content on there right now.
It’s all a farce. It’s entirely possible to target individuals making and distributing CSAM, but it’s much easier to do nothing and use it as an excuse to spy on citizens.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It makes much more sense when you realize that most of the old, white men with money or political power are the ones looking at those sites.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’m only holding out on going KoS on ANY politician because I still need to be alive to do some things.
I have no ethical or physical issue with grabbing one of them, and dragging them into a bush.
CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
If I ever, ever somehow end up living in a world where it’s not possible to communicate with someone digitally and be completely encrypted, if we get to a point where you MUST put your ID into signal and have the government scan all signal messages, I’ll probably just kill myself.
And take a few politicians with me at the very least.
ivan@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Oh, come on.
You can still DIY shit like Meshtastic
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Been building out a mesh network bit by bit locally. Its pretty cool.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I mean, that’s hardly realistic for most people.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
… where it’s not possible to communicate with someone digitally…
I’d be thrilled to go back to that, if what we’re getting now instead is the only other option. But, I grew up in the before-times, so I’m not so put off by the idea.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
You’re still getting surveilled in real-life conversations … if anyone in the conversation is stupid enough to bring their phone or other ‘smart’ device (including any modern car).
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You cannot ban cryptography, so the messenger is not the problem. You can control computing hardware tho…
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Check out Briar and Meshtastic
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Great, teach mesh computing to an elderly relative 10k miles away that can’t even log onto a banking website
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
better idea: communicate irl. and also we need proper end-to-end encrypted chats that exchange public keys from device to device directly (NFC or QR code) (which requires physical meeting).
architect@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
I don’t know a single person in real life that can maintain a conversation about this. And I keep looking.
kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
You could always get really into steganography
mrmisses@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hope you live in DC. Or Florida.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
To be fair they do seem to think it would really catch pedophiles; why else would they exclude themselves?
Manticore@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
But what would be the point? Nobody’s doing anything about the high-profile pedophiles we already know. And kids have a bunch of other more common needs that are being conveniently ignored. The maths ain’t mathing
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’m just calling them pedophiles.
lmdnw@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I say, “Arm up and kill authoritarians.” Likelihood is that you’ll also kill lots of pedos at the same time.
Juniperus@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Sure would be nice if we could reform economically instead. Not that I feel bad for the pedos or the tyrants, but a lot of other people will have a very bad time if shit really hits the fan without some sort of economic plan in place.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
the brainwashing of the last 20 years has been incredibly effective at distracting people from everything important. people didn’t talk about the economic situation because all the (looks around) instagram and distraction schemes.
architect@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Shit is going to hit the fan. This is all unsustainable.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah. Sucks we don’t have anarchists building power and survival systems outside state and capital’s control.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s not true. Don’t assume you’ll get more than line two before they get you.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t underestimate my 10000 hours in counter strike, half of which was playing as terrorists!
timestatic@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I will never not be the guy in the bottom-right corner
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
*fucking. You can type fucking on the internet. Don’t worry, we won’t tell your mommy.
custom_username@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
You also don’t have to either? Weird thing to be triggered about.
Leg@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How are you defining “triggered”? I keep seeing it used this way, and it makes no sense.
vane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s already done Sir. Our private data is again being scanned by US corporations to protect our children.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
* to better optimize ads, and to sell AI surveillance to crackpot dictators.
vane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hey sudden increase of insurance price is just algorithm not that we sold your hashed house photos to the insurance company. There is no shazam for photos right ?
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
It’s being scanned by everyone and everything that has access to scan it. Probably your own government too, even if you have laws supposedly prohibiting that.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
How can they stop me from just doing this: U2FsdGVkX19+NGkQMc6FHt46SCVJ0SWyaPd8zo6lqiZ3V0H+IbR/EKhIt9B+o8Bu
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Inform me pls
nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How can they stop people from just sending encrypted messages?
Babalugats@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Time has come for moving towards !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com Politicians be Politicing too much with themselves in mind.
topperharlie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
here we go once again to being fucking embarrassed to be European.
the first try of this made me stop voting altogether because all the fucking parties on my country were a YES. Fuck politicians, hope they all get killed.
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
As an american using Proton, shit
marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Proton is swiss. Switzerland is not EU so they’re not affected
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Fuck, my American is showing…
huppakee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Proton is swiss, but they moved out data out of Switzerland because laws changed negatively. Not sure where it is now, but eu i believe
GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where will we run when the whole world burns?
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
under the ocean maybe? return to the sea. the whales did it
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We won’t we will block the air intake and exhaust and entrances and exits in these billionaire bunkers and rebuild the world as stewards of the earth. To do this we will have to identify and diagnose narcissism and psychopathy to treat it as a disease rather than reward it.
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
khepri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are many alternatives to the world wide web. Familiarize yourself.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Like what?
Magnum@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
You could touch grass
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Gopher and Gemini come to mind.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
How is your comment relevant to Chat Control?
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
if they really wanted to catch pedophiles they’d be in D.C. right now
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
In the US, gun owners like to joke about how great those blue helmets are as targets.
ollie@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
genuine question, im not in the EU, how would this affect self hosted/federated E2EE chat services like Matrix and XMPP?
lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
As always in these cases… it depends if backdoors will be mandated. Maybe not in the first version… maybe in the cond or third… you need to make people to accept things a bit at the time
strop@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
666
Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, the way we catch pedophiles is, oh wait, then the battle would be lost
yakko@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Funny how they’re trying so hard to catch pedos not won’t arrest a single motherfucker in the Epstein files
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s not true; they arrested one!
yakko@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Only because they really wanted to already. Boo