No one who’s actually used Grindr likes that app. It sucks, and not in a good way. It fills its niche, but it is a horrible app and gets worse and worse with every update.
Rant over.
turing completeness
Submitted 2 weeks ago by SSUPII@sopuli.xyz to [deleted]
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Johandea@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
Darkmuch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh so it’s like all other dating apps.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I read recently they’re all tuned to give you almost perfect matches with people you’ll vibe with for a few dates then end up back on the app
queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Isn’t that just… every app?
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Haven’t used it myself but my mate seems to thoroughly enjoy it.
Why does it suck?
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every update decreases the amount of people you can see. Frequent, full page ads that cannot be closed out and will open up a webpage/the App Store as you try to hit the “x.” You’ll “accidentally” hit the $99.99 monthly purchase somehow because everything moves around after your conversations load and have to exit out of the confirmation for that. There are a ridiculous amount of Only Fans and bots. Often the app would rather connect you to people hundreds of miles away rather than the people in your immediate area.
blave@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When people ask me what the difference between Reddit and Lemmy is, I can just show them this post
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Horny gamers vs gay horny programmers.
edinbruh@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
If Turing was alive he would say that LLMs are wasting computing power to do something a human should be able to do on their own, and thus we shouldn’t waste time studying them.
Which is what he said about compilers and high level languages (in this instance, high level means like Fortran, not like python)
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Humans are able to do it but it takes us weeks instead of seconds.
edinbruh@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I don’t like it because people don’t shut up about it and insist everyone should use it when it’s clearly stupid.
LLMs are language models, they don’t actually reason (not even reasoning models), when they nail a reasoning it’s by chance, not by design. Everything that is not language processing shouldn’t be done by an LLM. Viceversa, they are pretty good with language.
We already had automated reasoning tools. They are used for industrial optimization (i.e. finding optimal routes, finding how to allocate production, etc.) and no one cared about those.
As if it wasn’t enough. The internet is now full of slop. And hardware companies are warmongering an arms race that is fueling an economic bubble. And people are being fired to be replaced by something that will not actually work in the long run because it does not reason.
UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where did he say that about compilers and high level languages? He died before Fortran was released and probably programmed on punch cards or tape.
edinbruh@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
I’ll try to find it later, I read he said that in a book from Martin Davis
fermuch@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Wasn’t his ideal to simulate a brain?
edinbruh@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Neural networks don’t simulate a brain, it’s a misconception caused by their name. They have nothing to do with brain neurons
hefty4871@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I wish Alan Turing was still alive and using Grindr. It would probably motivate him to update his test just to wade through the 80% of bot profiles on the app!
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He would be 113. He wouldnt have time or the energy for anyone’s shit after 1980ish.
danc4498@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok, but would he think the AI bots on grindr pass the Turing test?
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
gAI bots, you say?
danc4498@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol. It was right there.
python@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly I’d much rather hear Isaac Asimov’s opinion on the current state of AI. Passing the Turing Test is whatever, but how far away are LLMs from conforming to the 3 laws of Robotics?
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The laws are not profitable, so why would they implement them? /s
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
but how far away are LLMs from conforming to the 3 laws of Robotics?
We seem to be moving away from those, not closer.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Does following the 3 laws of robotics increase profits? Does ignoring them increase profits? Are tech bros empty husks without a shred of shame or empathy? Is this too many rhetorical questions in a row?
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
There’s no question. Chatbots are implicated in a lot of suicides, shattering the first rule.
There could be an interesting conversation about whether the environmental impact ALSO breaks the first rule, but that conversation is unnecessary when chat bots are telling kids to kill themselves.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
yes it remains to be seen if chatbots are ever capable of obeying any of the laws.
It doesn’t and cant obey all orders, it doesn’t and can’t protect humans, it doesn’t and can’t protect its own existence and it doesn’t or can’t prevent humanity from coming to harm.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Also them strapping guns and flame throwers on the autonomous dog at fast as they can.
khepri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In practice, that’s as simple as adding a LoRA or system prompt telling the AI that those are part of it’s rules. AI’s already can and do obey all kinds of complex rule-sets for different applications. Now, if you’re thinking more about the fact that most AI’s can be convinced to break out of their rule-sets via prompt injection, I’d say you’re right.
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
AI cannot be relied upon to follow its own rules, prompt injection or no.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Excited to hear New Labour’s position on chemically castrating one of the greatest scientists in history. Perhaps we can get some Guardian Op-Eds explaining why it is both necessary and good to drive the nation’s finest minds to suicide with constant verbal and physical abuse.
infinitebagels@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This one hits the sweet spot of lazy and true. Passing a Turing test just means you can fake conversation better than the other thing in the room, it does not make you conscious. Call it clever autocomplete, not a soul.
Also, I have no idea who the bottom dude is in the pic, but the Grindr punchline is gloriously tacky. Internet history jokes will never die, thank god.
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The guy at the bottom is literally labeled.
marcos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
it does not make you conscious
That wasn’t obvious at all until a few years ago.
Anyway, I do think Turing would put as much importance on the Turing test as the meme implies. But it really looked like it predicted intelligence until we got there.
highrfrequenc@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Start the timer to the ai generated post on reddit asking to explain the joke
TypFaffke@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Grindr is a non-deterministic Turing machine that might get you laid in linear time.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Lmaoooo
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Fuck the Britains who destroyed his life!
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Since when do they pass the Turing test? They’re infuriatingly bad.
vodka@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Even the first version of ChatGPT passed turing tests.
It takes surprisingly little for an LLM to make natural language responses that are indistinguishable from a human. Especially when factual accuracy was never part of it.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Considering how easy they were to break by saying “ignore previous instructions” I’ma have to disagree
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
khepri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not after 1952 he wasn’t. {image the Incredibles ‘those who know’ meme here}
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Thanks for helping us with one of the biggest cryptographic problems giving us a strategic edge in this WORLD FUCKING WAR, now we’re guns chemically castrate you. K bye
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Real talk, I’m two days late but who in the fuck is flaming this objectively true comment‽
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I want to update but OP is at 420 ups so I wont be pressing that.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 weeks ago
good for him tbh