I often wondered how nazi germany happened given the democracy and find myself caught up in the process despite my best efforts and the efforts of many people I know.
So if we're just good with careening into fascism 2.0 what does the future look like?
Submitted 2 months ago by Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com to [deleted]
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HubertManne@piefed.social 2 months ago
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The only efforts that matter going forward is for people now to giving up their own comfort to secure the future for others. Either we trust each other with our lives or we forfeit or futures to authoritarian rule. I maybe only have another 30-40 years left. 20 years of “healthy” living. Its not me who’s losing out big.
Id happily donate those years to a cause that was real and not just talk.
HubertManne@piefed.social 2 months ago
I don't think people need to give up comfort. At least not to any reasonable level. We need to make it so that we are doing things efficiently. Passive housing using geothermal/solar/wind and such. People able to afford to live where they can be carless.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 months ago
Things are going to get real fucky.
Those in power will be unable to trust each other and their employees even less. We may end up living where we work.
Diseases will be widespread, and no care will be offered to anyone but the privileged.
Famine, likely entirely manufactured, will cause massive amounts of starvation.
Modern conveniences will be slowly lost. Cars will be falling apart because no one can afford mechanics, and the lack of vehicle regulations leads to excessive accidents.
Planes will break up midaire. Widespread blackouts when shit goes sideways. Forget about medicine.
Waterways will be polluted beyond what can be boiled. Breathing in big cities will be hazardous. They will say “efficiency” but not one instance of efficiency will be observable.
Kids showing academic excellence will be abducted and sent to special indoctrination schools so that they can only benefit the regime.
Women will have rights removed. All men will have to do a two year duty in war. Church attendance will be reported to the government.
I have more ideas but I’ll stop there
brendansimms@lemmy.world 2 months ago
damn homie are you the heritage foundation
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 months ago
I mean I could be. 13 year old me thought of most of this stuff during his hormonal days
Slartibartfass@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think No Church Attendance will be reported
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Criticism, questioning, ambiguity, or hesitance will also be reported.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Strikes me that you’ve forgotten about the rest of the world.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 months ago
The rest of the world isn’t coming to help as long as we only hurt those within our borders. No one stood up to the Nazis until they started moving on other countries, even though they were already known to be committing atrocities. The rest of the world is just going to cut us off and let us burn, most of the world hates the U.S. and only plays nice for economic and military reasons.
aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Brain drain. It’s already started. Academics, scientists, and researchers are moving to Canada or Europe to do their work. As shit gets worse, the upper and middle classes will start to do the same. The underprivileged and undereducated will fight for the scraps of what’s left.
HubertManne@piefed.social 2 months ago
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance. If you have no home to sell or money to transfer over leaving is a bit easier. If you have enough to set yourself up and then sell what you have that makes it easy. So its like people barely affording their mortgages or have decent jobs that would be hard to replace that get stuck until its to late.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance.
gtfo
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Moving is expensive, especially to another country. Assets or not.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Eventually, the world will get tired of our shit and do something about it. It will not be pretty. Mainly economic suffocation…. That’s the only way the rest of the world can hurt the US.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We’re suffocating ourselves just fine
blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Except y’all have nuclear weapons and the rest of us mostly don’t. When you’re done with your local genocides the US will inevitably turn outwards for a scapegoat.
GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
devolution@lemmy.world 2 months ago
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Bull. I don’t even get to have a double jump implant installed but I still have to deal with corpofascism. This is all a total rip-off.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 months ago
If your curious what the right is pushing for go ahead and check out The Turner Diaries.
If you actually finish the book, wait for your rage to subside then arm yourself.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Let me guess. They rape women.
stankcheez@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Turner Diaries is a white nationalist screed about overthrowing the US government to install a fascist dictatorship that starts a nuclear war and begins a systematic purge and execution of all non-whites, Jews, and any “race traitors” who view those groups as anything other than scum
It’s vile beyond words
Asafum@feddit.nl 2 months ago
So I actually just kinda answered this as a “joke” in another thread, but essentially:
The future: fascists, racist robots, billionaires, more fascists, bombing civilians, cutting science funding, the earth is on fire, more fascists, cutting HIV study funding, more racist robots, gutting artistic employment, more billionaires, fried donuts.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh boy donuts
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We’re not good with it and we hope it’s not too late to turn it around. And no, I don’t know how so there’s no point asking me.
rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“We” are not good with it. But if you’re American you might be, yeah.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The door is shutting. Might want to stick your foot in the gap before the lock it behind them.
jasoman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Death, mostly death.
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Look to the past for a view of our future.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The (significantly delayed) Bell Riots.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A big ol pile of shit.
TingoTenga@lemmy.world 2 months ago
War.
SmallsJohnson@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
V for Vendetta, but without V to help save us from ourselves.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 months ago
People have been radicalised by radical leftism this is just the pendulum swinging back the other way.
Slartibartfass@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol. If you are in the us you have no idea what leftism is
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It always amazes me how radical leftism keeps moving further right. Once upon a time radical leftism meant UBI and immediate radical action on climat change. Now ‘radicall’ leftism is anything left of squads of armed men kidnapping people off the street.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 months ago
I’m in Australia I have the goddamn flag in my username.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think the book The Fourth Turning and its sequel talk about this.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Violent protests probably. Even republicans don’t want fascism. But there is nothing we can do without a hero assassin… At least 3 of them actually.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A “Trump Boat Parade” in Jupiter, Florida, on Sunday was joined by neo-Nazis waving swastika flags, shouting “White Power,” “Heil Trump,” and “Make America White Again!”
What’s been truly revolting is in watching how many liberals have jumped on the fascism bus. Kristen Gillibrand is fully in bed with the Silicon Valley techno-fascists. Richie Torries can’t get enough genocide, whether its via our migrant concentration camps at home or our outsourcing of genocide to the Middle East via Israel and Saudi Arabia. Sitting Democrat NYC Mayor Eric Adams has gone all in on MAGA, after receiving pardons for his chronic misuse of public office and funds from the President. Gavin Newsom is flirting with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon as a podcast host. Half the 2026 Texas Dem Congressional slate is fully in favor of turning the US/Mexico border into the new Iron Curtain. The Florida Democratic Party wants a Bay of Pigs 2.
It’s Italy in 1924 all over again. Oops! All fascists.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Yeah people thinking the Democratic Party is going to save them are delusional IMO. They are part of it and many of them have been working towards the same goal. They are a false opposition at best. Not all of them, some of them are legit, like Bernie, and look how he has been treated by the Dem establishment. Any real resistance is marginalized.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
this is what the fascists want. any excuse whatsoever to declare martial law, impose curfews, ‘papers, please’ checkpoints, and ‘papers, please’ thugs going door to door, looking for anyone they don’t like so they can send them to the concentration camp.
thoughtcrime doesn’t entail death, thoughtcrime is death
Asafum@feddit.nl 2 months ago
We’re already at the thoughtcrime stage…
Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they’re salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can’t have those political opinions, that’s wrongthink!
Netux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They said it before trump was sworn in. It will be a bloodless coup of the left allows it. The options are fascism or fight.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 months ago
don’t act like they’re not going to do that anyway. if no one rises up and does real damage, they’ll stage something and enact martial law
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s not a reason to avoid resistance. They created the situation. The violence is on them. Hopefully, literally.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can show up to a protest armed to the fucking teeth without firing off a single round. That’s how those anti lockdown fucks got what they wanted in 2020 (and one of many reasons why COVID exploded).
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 months ago
They don’t? How can you tell?
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Well fascist were socialist and socialism is communism, so obviously.
/s
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes they do.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No they don’t lol. The maga cult does. But actual thinking republicans don’t want it.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
crank0271@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s starting to look like the movie “Desperado” (or perhaps the entire “El Mariachi” trilogy)
cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 months ago
The French figured out how to solve that particular problem hundreds of years ago. Guillotines are efficient and reusable.
HubertManne@piefed.social 2 months ago
yeah goes through every secretary.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Um, sorry but have you been paying attention for the last eight years?
The people left in the GOP are driving at full speed towards a fascist dictatorship. It’s not Trump, it’s the entire cadre of sycophants and Nazis he’s set up to protect him.
Laura Loomer’s “Alligator lives matter” didn’t suggest that? Nor the fact that she was celebrating the creation of a new concentration camp to round up and possibly murder ALL Latinos in the US? (And selling merch to go with it!)
What about Kristi Noem filming propaganda in front of cages full of prisoners in El Salvador?
The six SCOTUS judges who are eagerly giving Trump every immunity and power he wants?
Ron DeSantis creating a second one-stop deportation centre?
The US Republican Party ARE fascists, and are ecstatic over how things are turning out.
If you call yourself a Republican and are against this, you’re either a hypocrite, or a liar.
scarabic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Only 3? Found the optimist!
alaphic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wario, Yoshi, and Dinkey King? (Could’ve been Diddy Kong, but I think he’s been having some legal issues or something lately…)
I didn’t even know he knew Kid Cudi, either.