I’m not going to bother reading the article, because you can both be anti-capitalist and participate in the system as it exists today. The developers can’t pay rent with good vibes.
The Outer Worlds 2 Can't Be Anti-Capitalist When It's Charging Us $80 To Play It
Submitted 5 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://www.thegamer.com/the-outer-worlds-2-price-80-dollars-story-characters-themes-xbox/
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catloaf@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Also the developers don’t set the price
the_q@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
A healthy way to look at things, but also the guaranteed way to maintain the status quo. It’s funny how that works.
catloaf@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
They can take action in other ways, including publishing anticapitalist messages in their game.
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
The developers can’t pay rent with good vibes.
They can consume less and live in cheaper areas.
But why would they unless they’re forced to?
Red_October@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Clearly they should just make their own coffee and cut the avocado toast right?
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I view society as a poison I can use to hurt people. Very anti-capitalist, and promotes participation in capitalist society.
tal@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Capitalism deals with industry being owned privately.
If you want to complain about Microsoft being a publicly-traded, private-sector company rather than a worker cooperative or part of the government or whatever, okay, at least I can see where you’re coming from.
But a socialist economy is perfectly compatible with having high prices.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
“Capitalism is when pay money for things. I am very smart.”
Jesus Christ, I am begging people to actually learn what capitalism is before writing takes likes this.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
These days its incresingly ‘capitalism is when you pay money for the chance to have a thing’
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
I think it has more to do with how much they’re charging rather than them charging anything at all.
i.e. They’re maximizing profit off of people’s low standards by charging the most people are willing to pay while giving the least they’re willing to accept.
If this honestly had to be spelled out for you and you’re not just being willfully ignorant, you should really get some remedial education before shitting on others.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m sure if it was up to the developers and creative minds behind the game this would have never been an issue. Sure, things like inflation have made the process of making games more expensive, but it’s not like the extra money is going to actually go back to the developers. I’m so sick of this “games are more expensive to make” bullshit while they treat their employees like garbage and make them work ungodly hours. Micro$oft makes more money in one day than most of us or any of the developers will ever see in our entire lifetimes yet they need to lecture us on why we need to give them more money.
To be clear, I hold no grudge against the actual developers of this game. The first one was pretty decent and I’m sure this next one will be relatively good as well. But remember that we are talking about the company that forced Arkane to make Redfall when they had no desire to make it and after it failed fired everyone at Arkane Austin and closed the studio. This isn’t about making their money back to cover the cost of development, it’s about making as much profit as possible with the least amount of effort possible.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Games continue to get cheaper to make as middleware improves and advancing hardware lessens the need for optimisation. If companies choose to spend more on games despite this then that’s their problem.
Prox@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Microsoft doesn’t expect anyone to pay $80. They expect people to sub to Game Pass instead.
llii@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
That’s even worse.
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
Ahh yes, perpetually renting access and being beholden to price hikes “just because.”
Makes sense all the morons who subscribe to netflix and spotify are also stupid enough to shill game pass.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well, for starters, games are going to get more expensive.
That is their prerogative. Mine is not buying overpriced games.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
That’s always been the case. They can charge whatever they like, I’ll only buy if I think the price is worth it.
katze@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
I guess the author learned that being anti-capitalist is somewhat trendy and couldn’t resist writing this opus. But this has nothing to do with the game or games in general.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Of course you can - if an adequate share of that money goes to the devs, the only issue is the money that doesn’t go to the devs. And they very likely don’t have much control over that money
commander@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Play that years down the line. The first one was OK but I paid like $15 for it with the expansion. Obsidian hasn’t had a clear jump in quality since the MS purchase. Possibly even signs of writing regression with Avowed so can’t imagine much hype for this game
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Grounded is fun, and 2 is right around the corner, though they did (and plan similarly for 2) to release it in phases in early access and gather community feedback at every step
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They aren’t gonna charge me shit because the first one was so dull I only got halfway through it.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s a lot of money for any game, let alone one that will also be launching on Game Pass and, like its progenitor, is smaller scale than other open world RPGs of this ilk.
It’s this thinking that led to Starfield and Redfall being priced at $70 and Hi-Fi Rush priced at $30.
ech@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Lol, the cognitive dissonance of whining about capitalism because their vidya game got a little more expensive. Not only is the entitlement and hypocrisy off the charts, there are so many ways to play games for cheap and/or free, the criticism is entirely moot. Don’t like the price a company is asking for for an entirely optional commodity? Don’t fucking pay it. It’s not that hard.
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
How about they don’t pay it and voice their discontent?
ech@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
And I’ll voice mine.
WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Don’t like the price a company is asking for for an entirely optional commodity? Don’t fucking pay it. It’s not that hard.
Don’t like the discussion a community is having for an entirely opinionated topic? Don’t fucking comment. It’s not that hard.
Almacca@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
So don’t buy it.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
ITT: gamers are basically forced to buy this game.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If this game is as good as it looks Bethesda has to really step it up on Fallout 5 or big daddy Microsoft might give the IP back to its creators.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The Outer Worlds 1 was a fantastic palate cleanser after Starfield.
zecg@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
this handful of uncooked milled oats was a fantastic palate cleanser after half a kilo of shit
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
Nowhere near as good as Fallout 4, though.
Also, insultingly short.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Yeah I have to disagree, the first game was lifeless and dull imo
novibe@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I personally loved it. I finished it quicker than most games I’ve played the last few years. I was actually surprised. It’s not a long game by any means, but still.
I didn’t love that it started a bit more radical and became more lib over time, but I still enjoyed the writing and gameplay quite a bit. It’s silly fun, and it’s not pretending not to be. It does have a message, but it’s not overtly drab or serious.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not sure how the first game was a snorefest - I genuinely had more fun in Starfield.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
$80? No problem! 🏴☠️
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
Yeah, it doesn’t surprise me.
Just gonna be another torrent for me.
Fuck these hypocrites. They’re all greedy, entitled consumerists.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Oh, it just modern Obsidian, no one is going to buy it anyway.
Came and went.
Gronk@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
It’s crazy to think that a handful of people who have floated around Obsidian/Interplay/Black Isle have created (in my opinion) some of the best games to have ever existed.
You put a name like Chris Avellone or Tim Cain onto a project and I’m going to pay more attention to it than any AAA with millions put into trailers and other bullshit to sell you down the river.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I came!
bizza@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Avowed was cool but not really worth the 70. I doubt TOW2 is worth 80, and specifically especially because Microsoft/ActiBlizzard is just following the Nintendo train, which is what everyone knew was going to happen with triple A studios.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
“You’ve had the best, now try the rest!” Should be Epic’s slogan.
stupidopensourceBS@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s satire, you fucking pleb.
zymagoras777@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
…and that’s why you support decent indie developers and pirate this trash
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
Just don’t play it
Since you know, it’s trash
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It is called “a practical joke”.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
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ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This Thread-
“We should improve gaming somewhat”
“Just don’t buy the game!”
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Here’s the thing, there are already vendors doing largely what. Indies generally:
But people usually talk about big AAA games in these complaints. Buy indies and we’ll end up with more variety.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Well, yeah.
Vote with your wallet. You’re improving gaming every second that you don’t buy a AAA title.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
That’s sort of how it works though isn’t it? If games at $80 are too much then less people will buy, profits will drop and publishers will either lower prices, or vanish and get replaced by ones that lower prices.