I won’t say if that project is legal or not, but expect it (and many others) to be taken down by Nintendo soon. Make a local copy if you want to preserve it.
Mario Kart 64 got finally decompiled!
Submitted 5 weeks ago by MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml to games@lemmy.world
https://github.com/n64decomp/mk64
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Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Decomps are legal because no copyrighted material is being distributed. They typically require the original ROM to run (eg for assets).
phx@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Yeah but Nintendo doesn’t always seem to give a shit just because something is legal. They’ll still play the “but our legal department has more money than YOU” card
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The code itself is also copyrighted. Decompiled code is a derivative work.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Why expect this to be taken down if other decomps haven’t been taken down already? Why expect other decomps to be taken down?
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They will eventually be all taken down. That’s the point. They have no legal framework to exist, and Nintendo could strike any time they want, like Rockstar did with the re3 project.
They also have valid reasons to think that these projects are causing them to lose money, since they give alternative (and technically better) solutions to play their old games, without buying any Nintendo hardware or software (unless you dump your games, but let’s be honest. You don’t).
Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Mario Kart 2^6^
demizerone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Eat shell Nintendo.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It was alright, MK64, but my only real gripe is the handling. When you start your turn in, the kart strafes opposite of the direction you are turning, which makes small adjustments difficult at best.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Skill issue
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
And in this one, if you move the stick back and forth wrong, you can spin out.
It’s pretty janky, but you can get used to it.
Species5218@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
How did you get it to run? I got it to compile, but there I cant find a file that I can actually run.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 weeks ago
Are you trying to run it on PC?
This is only the decompilation of the original for N64, the binaries it produces are for the N64 or an emulator. Making a PC port is the next step.
Ansis100@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I haven’t even looked at it, but don’t you need an emulator to run it?
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’m seeing more of these decompilations lately but never for playstation titles. some things just never emulate quite right with the playstation titles and they are still fun to play. Is anyone working on decompiling original playstation games?
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There’s an entire community for PS1 and PS2 discord.gg/TzRYk7X3zw
jacecomix@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Not claiming to be an expert, but I watched this video a while back. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmKjVpVdHDQ
The impression I got is that PS1 emulation is actually pretty good, and N64 emulation is more like that Homer Simpson meme with all the clothespins on his back.InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ps1 is great because it’s a mips core, a funky 3d engine and the main weirdness is the spu.
The n64 is all weird (albeit with a similar but 64bit mips core).
MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Yes there is some work for ps1 games for example the crash team racing demp
github.com/CTR-tools/CTR-ModSDK This is the link, tho the repo is being used for ctr mod tools too.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Good. Maybe now someone can mod it so it isn’t the worst Mario Kart in the series
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
comforts you
Hey, it’s ok buddy. It’s alright to have bad opinions sometimes…doesn’t make you a bad person.
wh0_cares@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’m probably gonna get flack for this, but, based take, no clue what everyone else is on about. Must just be nostalgia bias, I remember the whole internet singing the praises of MK64 a decade ago, but like, it is really ass compared to any other game in the franchise.
For anyone who thinks 64 is better than SMK and SC, check out this video and then come back to me. (granted, video doesn’t talk about SC, but like, SC is just an improved version of SMK)
For anyone who thinks 64 is better than Tour… fair point, but like, the only reason Tour is so bad is cause Mobile. Outside of that, it’s not that bad.
For anyone who thinks 64 is better than 7… why? The only thing bad with 7 is it’s lack of a single player VS mode. Outside of that, 7 is a pretty good game, although outshined by 8 in every way.
For anyone who thinks 64 is better than World, chill out, World ain’t even out yet, ok.
For anyone who thinks 64 is better than DD, DS, Wii, 8, or 8DX, I know you’re trolling at that point.
Even still, 64 is still not that bad, and I can probably come up with at least half a dozen worse racing games off the top of my head. I’m really excited to see how people use this decomp to actually make 64 a good game.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
It’s def nostalgia bias. It is truly terrible.
4am@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I hated on it for so long, but i eventually came around and i kinda like it now.
It is still the worst In the Series lol
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I know the driving is bad, the ai is bad, and it’s full of glitches but worse than Super Mario Kart and Mario Super circuit?
4am@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Never played super circuit
OG Super Mario Kart is a banger all day long and you know it
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I think so
Glytch@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wii, Super Circuit, and 7 exist, so your argument doesn’t hold water.
Sure it isn’t Double Dash, but it’s definitely not the worst.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Wii is one of the best.
Super Circuit is still better.
I’ll give you 7. It’s down there
But the driving is terrible and so is the AI and so are the tracks
MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Man, i hope this results in a PC port like with SoH. I’d kill for a native PC version of 64 with a bunch of fancy features. It’s my favorite Mario Kart
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wow that took a while…
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
had to look it up, 1996, damn that’s an old game xd
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Playing devil’s advocate here, doesn’t this mean somebody is doing what people are calling AI evil for doing?
4am@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
That was already possible. This lets the game run natively on a modern PC, as long as you supply your legally backed up rom image of your N64 cartridge of the game.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As a software developer I spent my whole career looking at examples of other people’s work and incorporating their coding techniques into my own work without ever hunting any of them down and paying them. Possibly other people have done the same with my code. Bottom line I don’t care, it’s always been common practice. And I don’t see anything wrong with a human being writing code to automate that process - that’s the whole idea of coding.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh I see. I only took a brief glance at the code on github but it looks like the full game is there - did the devs add the cartridge check to avoid IP trouble? Because if you know what you’re doing you could always disable that.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
You can’t do what you say, because the original ROM is required to get the assets. Just this repo gets you nowhere w. running the game.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The assets folder in the github repository seems to contain the assets - unless you’re talking about different assets.
panchzila@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I guess because its not for profit.
Vitaly@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Amazing!
glitchdx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
so, custom tracks and racers when?
BigPotato@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There’s already ROM hacks for MK64.
SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
MarioKart Vs Diddy Kong Racing
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It’s not a stretch to say that n64 romhacks are often of similar gameplay quality to modern titles, albeit with far lower graphical fidelity. With a racer like Mario kart, I’m curious how they’ll go about modernizing it. It seems too fundamentally janky with its controls and visuals to compete with anything within the last 20 years, but I’ve been nothing if not surprised by the ingenuity of romhackers.
4am@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
This is not a romhack or a tool for romhacking. This lets the game run natively, on current PC hardware.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Decomp projects accelerate the rate that romhacks come out through new or improved tools and fresh information about the inner workings of the game. Particularly when there was little experimentation previous to the decomp, as is the case here, to allow romhackers find the game’s kinks. It absolutely is not a romhack or romhacking tool, you are correct. It’s better!
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Doesn’t look like this is quite that, yet. The decomp.is just the first step towards native porting. Banjo-Kazooie’s been fully decompiled for somewhere around a year at this point, and there’s still no ports afaik.