Until I have the same unlimited upside as a founder does, I’m committed to work life balance. If you’re a wage employee, there is not point in giving your life to your job.
LinkedIn’s cofounder Reid Hoffman says seeking work-life balance is a red flag that you’re ‘not committed to winning’
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MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
To be fair, he’s talking to the founders of startups, not employees. But still, he sounds like an ass.
tdawg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Personally I’d rather have both
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
Fuck this guy. I say we guillotine him as an example to the others.
jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 weeks ago
I worked at a couple of startups and every single one was a success with good exit strategies, and we had good work-life balance. His view is factually false.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“The people that think that’s toxic don’t understand the start-up game, and they’re just wrong,” he said. “The game is intense. And by the way, if you don’t do that, eventually, you’re out of a job.
For those who disagree, working at a startup is a choice, Hoffman insisted.
But the reward on the other side is second to none; the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn don’t need to work anymore, he added. Microsoft purchased the professional networking platform for $26.2 billion in 2016.
That’s good for the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn, but I’m certain that the VAST majority of employees who bust their ass trying to help get a start-up off the ground don’t have anywhere near that end result. I’m sure it isn’t worth it for 99% of employees of start-ups.
But if you want to take on the challenge, hoping that maybe you’ll be one of the lucky ones, go for it, but don’t fucking drag a spouse/significant other, or children into that nightmare. If you want to commit your entire life to a start-up, then fucking commit.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is what happens when you survey jackpot winners about the value of lottery tickets.
Telorand@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
That’s called Survivorship Bias, and it’s a fallacy! I would expect nothing less than irrationality from a billionaire that got lucky and thinks his hard work in particular was what got him where he is.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a fucking lotto. Lucky people always think they’re smarter or more hardworking than others.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
It’s like listening to successful YouTubers say all you gotta do is commit to the grind and you’ll achieve your dreams. Even focusing solely on the numbers, it’s literally dishonest.
DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Reid Hoffman can wake up at 4:30am and begin the important work of eating my entire arsehole.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wouldn’t give him the privilege of the entirety. He can just lap at the crusty bits.
lorski@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Linkedin is a meat market for capitalist labor. It is very anti- worker, pro capitalist douchebaggery. Fuck Linkedin.
iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
You will never be able to afford a two bedroom apartment with that kind of attitude, sir!
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I want to live in a place where life isn’t a game with winner or losers, but a fun experience to share with those you love.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You have been banned from /r/capitalism
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean that’s fine for the guy or gal trying to start up their own business, which is what his talk was about, in the class he was addressing.
This should not apply to the workers though which is what way to many of business owners seem to forget once they start touring s profit and hiring people.
MBech@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
What they forget is that other people aren’t going to be as comitted to their business as they themselves are. They’re not going to care as much for the simple fact, that if the business takes off, they’re not going to earn any of the profits. Why would I work 50 hour weeks like the founder, if I don’t stand to actually reap the benefits?
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
not to mention a lot of US companies have “bonuses” to encourage you, but haven’t the foresight to think that an unmet bonus - usually out of the person’s hands, at least in my experience - is just a pay cut, and pay cuts are the worst thing you can do for morale and productivity.
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Not everyone hates their family, Reid.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
I’ve worked with a number of workaholics over the years. A few have straight-up admitted that they were taking on extra work to get away.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Fuck off, Reid.
withabeard@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Excuse me sir, we appear to have a different definition of “winning”.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Does “winning” mean you ignore family, friends, and self-care to further enrich giant corporations…? Cuz if so, I suggest this dude jump up his own asshole.
markstos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The quotes are specifically about early stage startup founders, not employees of huge established startups corporations.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He (and the exploitive class he is part of) want you to neglect your personal life and be productive so they can do the opposite.
TTH4P@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean he’s definitely an asshole for many reasons, but the context is “if you are a start-up entrepreneur”
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
No, he’s still an idiot, and he’ll realize it when he dies, if he’s lucky.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Like most CEOs that push this toxic shit, hope it’s soon.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
melfie@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
I think it’s fair enough to put in some really intense years with the promise of a nice payoff and ability to retire early, as opposed to spreading that effort and payout over decades with work / life balance. The problem is when that same intense effort is asked of anyone who will not be getting such a payout at the end. Even workers with equity in a start-up can get the shaft due to the fine print where the VCs take the lions share of the exit money and the workers end up with a paltry sum to that won’t even cover their medical bills later on after the stress takes its toll on their bodies.
green@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
This context does not change anything. Not prioritizing health shows a critical misunderstanding of what wealth is, and how to reap its benefits. You are not likely to be a good business person if you do not understand fundamentals.
That being said, if you’re willing to cheat/lie/steal you can ignore a lot of the fundamentals - which is the route most of these “cofounders” took
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Processing the context, you can see how a lot of internet companies have continued the trend of making wage positions “more entrepreneurial”.
polyamorypagan69@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
martin4598@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Looking at him, he may need a bit of work-life balance.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
this belongs in linkedin lunatics
tino@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dude wants to win at work. I win at life.
Red_October@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He doesn’t understand the difference.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s also a good sign you’re not mentally ill.
EndOfLine@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
These narcissist CEOs cannot grasp the idea that “life” is employees working for themselves and pursuing their own interests instead of working for others.
What kind of commitment does Reid Hoffman have towards seeing his employees win?
What kind of profit sharing do LinkedIn employees enjoy? What’s the salary / compensation disperancy look like between the average employee and the C-Suite executives? What’s the medical insurance and parental leave packages look like? What about education reimbursement?
Seriously, who is “winning” in Reid Hoffman’s ideal scenario?
NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Hail corporate!”
Terrapinjoe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What a loser
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Fuck this “you can’t get anywhere without stepping on everyone else” attitude.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
might want to look at your linkedin site, what it has turned into
nthavoc@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
If anything, Linkedin itself is a redflag just from their psychopathic micromanagers lost in their own world thinking everyone owes them something.
ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fuck this guy and anyone who thinks like him
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I agree, it’s not winning unless you’re crying, exhausted and with barely any more money than any other average folk unable to use it properly hoping for early retirement just before the economic crash leads you to being fired and having nepotism replace you instead!
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Tired of winning yet?
whysofurious@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
That’s our secret Raid, we don’t want to win.
meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
You can win. You can lose.
You can go poke around the garden with a rake on a sunny morning to discover what spring has wrought, also. Maybe have some friends over later?
loaf@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This guy reeks of chode energy.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
There are many ways to win in life. LinkedIn isn’t one of them.
TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
He’s right. I’m committed to getting paid and doing what I want.
saltesc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Right? “Winning” what exactly? Reid Hoffman’s trying to be the best at being the most miserable and unfulfilled. The most regrets on his death bed.