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End nuclear fusion!

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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨FlyingSquid@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Given its scarcity, helium should be more expensive, to the point where filling party balloons with it is decadent profligacy.

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    • el_abuelo@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean it is expensive, it’s just the amount required for a balloon is insignificant and thus seems cheap.

      As a diver who uses helium I can tell you it is, compared to air, so much more expensive they actually charge me for it (rather than just rolled into the cost of a dive) - to the sum of about $300 a dive - depending on depth.

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      • FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What is helium used for when diving?

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    • exothermic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good news everyone! Our national helium reserves have been privatized! Expect rising helium prices soon.

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      • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Privatization seems like a really bad idea to me. Helium is non-renewable resource. Privatization is about being ‘efficient’ at maximising profits. Do you think the people / companies that own the helium reserves are going to be interested in keeping helium available for centuries in the future? I’d say probably not.

        For a profit based company, the only motivation to preserve the helium for future use is that maybe it will be worth a lot more money in the future. But there are two big problems with that. Firstly, the timescale is likely to be too long for the profit to be of interest. And secondly, the main reason the price would go up is scarcity; and that scarcity will come sooner if the helium is wasted in the short term. (Unless one company actually has a monopoly on helium, in which case they can create artificial scarcity by just not selling it. But that would obviously be bad for other reasons.)

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  • cRazi_man@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We should go back to filling them with hydrogen.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What could go wrong?

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      I mean other than that…

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      • shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Would make for more exciting birthday parties.

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      • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The alternative is to use extremely limited quantities of gas crucial for MRIs, chip making, metallurgy, and a few other high tech applications. But hey, pretty balloons.

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      • Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh the huge manatee!

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      • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Am I missing a joke? Airships used hydrogen gas

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      • rain_worl@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        wasn’t that just the flammable lining?

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When I was in school decades ago, my science teacher brought in a big balloon filled with hydrogen and lit the string on fire without telling us that it was filled with hydrogen.

      I could feel the explosion in my bones. It was neat.

      I’m not sure you could do that in schools today.

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  • julysfire@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There will absolutely still be a customer that takes a balloon from behind the sign and asks for it to be filled up in the store.

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    • Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They will demand it or else poor Kayla’lin 'da Leeigh Lynn Lee’s princess party will be ruined.

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      • Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think you just summoned an Elder God.

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  • PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck! How am I going to refuel this fusion reactor I brought back from the future? You can’t have shit these days.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      May I suggest food waste from someone’s garbage can? I hear that works.

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      • tektite@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        😏 …Is there a Mrs. Fusion?

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just use hot air. Lots of that to go around.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m afraid it’s already in use by politicians.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I could have sworn they were hot air generators

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  • Cagi@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mylar balloons should be outlawed. They get sent free and land on power lines WAY too often. Over a thousand mylar balloons caused power outages are recorded in just Southern California alone in a typical year. The cost of repairing the damage might even exceed the revenue of mylar balloon sales.

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  • Abnorc@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I want a balloon full of uranium hexafluoride.

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    • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Meh, Argon is fine. Although what you said would be kind of funny.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    why don’t we just bring a shitload back from saturn or something

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    • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nobody’s stopping you!

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      • Deepus@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dont you tell me what i can do!!

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I really wonder what power plants will do with the helium once they get fusion working. Maybe a balloon business on the side isn’t such a bad idea.

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    • subtext@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean too much Helium isn’t a problem. It’s one of the few (only?) elements that will just disappear if you don’t do anything with it.

      It’s light enough that it rises to the very tip top of the earth’s atmosphere and is then stripped away by solar radiation. That’s why is a depleting natural resource, not because it’s burned or used or anything, but because it just escapes.

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      • subtext@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Edit: seems I was wrong about the escape mechanism for helium, it seems the primary mechanism is polar wind escape.

        Also, hydrogen can also apparently escape from the Earth.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_escape

        faculty.washington.edu/…/Catling2009_SciAm.pdf

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      • dsilverz@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • saigot@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In a perfect world stick it in a secondary reactor and make lithium. But that’s obviously even further off than hydrogen fusion.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      An MRI scanner in every home!

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      • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It takes a lot to get those working and stay running. I am one of the guys that supplies it. Well over 100 liters to even start it.

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    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The amount of helium produced is truly miniscule, in the order of a few cubic centimeters. They’ll just pump it into the ground somewhere, assuming we ever get fusion working

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You don’t have to pump it anywhere. Capturing helium is actually the hard part. It’s very adept at sneaking through small cracks and flying off into space. Earth’s gravity cannot contain it and pretty much all of it comes from primordial uranium decaying and getting caught in geological features by chance.

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Brought to you by big hydrogen.

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  • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good thing I finally finished voice training and no longer need Helium to pass 👍

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t you mean “outlaw α-decay” instead?

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I just work here, sir. I’m not a scientician.

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  • clickyello@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    nice keming on that one

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  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We also need to end road work while were at it. Enough is enough!!

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  • yournamehere@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    not only are these plastic bags shit and the people finding joy in in imbeciles, but helium doesnt grow on plants. it is limited.

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    • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Counterargument: everything is limited, and all joyful people are imbeciles to some extent

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      • yournamehere@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        fair

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    • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, the half lives of the stuff that produces helium are generally above 500 million years so we’ll still be making more of it for a very long time, but the reserves we’ve found trapped in geologic formations certainly are limited.

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