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Who Wants To Be A Lemming
Submitted 8 months ago by smokebuddy@lemmy.today to [deleted]
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Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Is that your final answer?
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Considering 1 percent of 12 million is 120k I guess that’s about right.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This reminds me of how well I can do algebra and calculus but need to whip out the calculator for the tip.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Tips are easy. You move the decimal point (10%) and double (20%). Or find 10%, half of 10% is 5% and add that 5% to whatever 10% was for a 15% tip. And fudge the numbers to make the math easier when it makes sense to, it’s a tip not a math test.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
You’re going to far. 0% of any sum is 0
EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 months ago
This is the way I do it. Often I just divide by ten and multiply by two, but I’m a generous tipper, and it’s one less head math step.
The funny thing is that this basically how common core math works: get to the answer by doing as much easy math as possible.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
What are you guys talking about? Tip is just rounding up to banknotes-only. €37.25? You pay 2x€20.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Easy for you to say! You don’t have scrambled eggs for brains. 😜
Willy@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
why doesn’t she just play in the NBA?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
If you want a serious answer: athletic ability
She isn’t strong or fast enough
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In NBA history, only 1 female player has ever been drafted- Luisa Harris. She did not actually make the team though, or anyways she never played in a game. I don’t quite remember. The door is open for women to play-the NBA does not prohibit it, nor do any of the “men’s leagues”-it just never happens because women are not good enough.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The WNBA’s revenue of $70 million is what percent of the NBA’s revenue of $10 billion?
AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And how much of The profitability of that industry is owed to state sponsorship, tax breaks, and Monopoly exceptions?
Professional sports needs to learn how to pay its own bills before it can be used as an example of why women’s sports aren’t profitable.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Do you know the difference between revenue and profit?
Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A whopping 0.7%!!
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
This is the real reason why I think trans women should be able to play women’s sports: Nobody really gives a fuck about women’s sports.
Miaou@jlai.lu 8 months ago
Except maybe women, but they don’t really count as people, right?
AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Let’s drop the state sponsorship of professional men’s sports and sporting arenas down to the level that we give to the women’s teams and see how those salaries look in a couple of years…
seejur@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The wnba Is literally supported by the NBA, if you want to talk about subsidies
Snapz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is that… Nick Kroll and John Mulaney?
prowe45@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Oh, hello
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Nick Kroll does not look impressed. Then again, he never does.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Nick Kroll and John Mulaney for those who don’t know.
Lemjukes@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Wow I could have sworn that was Jason Bateman
Ejh3k@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wow. I thought the guy on the left was from arrested development
majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 8 months ago
I had to do a double take scrolling because I was like “Wait, what that Nick Kroll?”
Good4Nuthin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
either way, that would buy a lotta tuna.
baatliwala@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Victor Wembanyama lol, sounds like the PES version of Victor Wanayama
li10@feddit.uk 8 months ago
tbf, Caitlin Clark is the only WNBA player that’s profitable.
People will bitch about how the men’s league gets paid so much, then proceed to not watch the women’s league…
If you want it to make money YOU need to support it 🫵
Delphia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This has always been my stance, Women make up approximately 50% of the population and the WNBA generates 2% of the revenue that the NBA does…
My wife and her friends go to some restaraunt once a month and they buy brand name workout clothes. Go to a game, buy a jersey, take your daughter and make it a thing.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 8 months ago
So basically, “gender pay-gap are fine, because the value of a woman is decided by the free market.”? Fuck that capitalist drivel…
Tear down the entire sexist gender-segregated professional sports industry for illegal/unconstitutional gender discrimination and require professional for-profit sports be co-ed like every other industry in this country is mandated to be.
The fact that the NBA doesn’t admit women should be grounds for dissolving the NBA as an illegal organization. The fact that the NBA and WNBA operate intl-tandem while maintaining such an egregious gender pay-gap is proof of a conspiracy to discriminate against women.
Fuck the centuries of sexist tradition around sports. Just because it’s the way things have been, doesn’t mean it’s the way it ought to be. I’m sick and tired of the sexism and sexist apologia. If you think women deserve less, I don’t care what your excuse is, especially if your excuse is “the free market”. smh…
Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 months ago
This is a great response. If you want to support them, great! Donate, volunteer, watch their games, whatever. For the rest of us, it’s an entertainment product. I don’t watch WNBA because I don’t watch NBA, or any sports. But if you like basketball, yet draw the line at the players’ genitals, that’s weird.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I would think that the kind of people who watch NBA, would want to watch the WNBA.
It’s the same concepts, but with women. I would think the mostly straight/male sports audience would want to watch their favorite sport where the players are also the gender they like to stare at.
Yet, here we are.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I don’t know how so many people are so devoid of understanding of something that is such an integral part if human civilisation the world over.
People find something they like. Let’s say is basketball. They like playing the game and want to be better so like watching people better than them so they tend to watch the best. Then they also find out they like watching it for entertainment sake. But anyone that has ever watched kids play sport know watching lower quality sport rapidly decrease in entertainment value.
Why would you go actively out of your way to watch an inferior product?
There are so many amateur male athletes that are better than female athletes. But no one goes down to their local game and watch a load of randomers play sport.
People watch the top league usually the club and the international if that sport is international. Then they will watch not their favourite team but other teams to get a better idea of the league. Then they will watch the feeder youth league if they want to. Then other countries leagues or lower leagues. All of these link together and all of them will be a better level than top women’s league.
Usually at the point you run out of time to watch any more or you just like sport in general and go watch the top tier of another sport.
There needs to be a reason to watch and the only reason I have found to watch women’s sport was to watch the UFC because that’s a player on player sport not achieving something. But the women have a lot less power and a lot more flexibility so the strategy is entirely different and sport looks different. In that sense in that entertainment value men can’t achieve that, in all other sports men seem to do what women do but better.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 8 months ago
They built a gender segregated system where all of the marketing and airtime goes to the men’s side. It’s an industry where women get less than 1% of the pay that the men did for the same job.
But it’s my fault for not watching?
The corporate overlords thank you for redirecting the blame away from them.
EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 months ago
There is no rule stopping women from joining the NBA. It’s just that no woman currently is able to compete at the highest level when men are included; the whole point of the WNBA is that, without it, there are no professional women in the sport.
In other words, it’s not the same job: one is an NBA player, the other a WNBA player. The WNBA exists precisely because women can’t do “the same job” but there is a market for watching women do the job. It’s just not as big as the market for people playing at the highest level of competition.
Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Are you suggesting they make a coed league where only the best get to play. How many female players will make the league.
StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The WNBA is a marketing line item for the NBA. If the NBA didnt give the WNBA their hand out, the WNBA wouldn’t exist.
Tom_Hanx_the_Actor@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You do know that professional sports is considered part of the entertainment industry, right? This is like you insisting that Margot Robbie and Christian Slater should be paid the same because they do the same job.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Nope.
There is no rule preventing a woman from playing in the NBA. The NBA created the WNBA and has marketed it heavily in an attempt to get more women interested in the sport. Sure there’s a long term profit motive (more women watching basketball could make them some money) but the WNBA has operated at a loss for decades. But maybe next year will be the year it turns a profit!
Boycotting the WNBA doesn’t get women into the NBA, more the opposite. It’s just screwing over women basketball players because of false assumptions.
Tom_Hanx_the_Actor@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s totally unfair to use Caitlin Clark as an example of the pay disparity as well. She’s a rookie on a pay scale. Her salary is less than half the average wnba salary. What’s really crazy to me is that the average salary is about 150k with only one woman making over 250k. For the salaries to be that flat seems odd compared to other pro sports but it’s just a part of the W having less revenue. Athletes have very strong unions also.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Dunno. It was comparing rookie against rookie.
250k is 4x the rookie salary. Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant and Nikola Jokic are also around 4x the 12m quoted salary.
callouscomic@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m gonna bet that corporate executives are bigoted assholes and increases in profits won’t substantially go to the women players.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The WNBA is currently operating at a loss.
Players in the WNBA are unionized and if and when the WNBA starts turning a profit they will be compensated.
To put things in perspective, the WNBA makes less than 1% of the revenue of the NBA. They got a long way to go before they’re making anything near to what the NBA players make.
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Is bill burr on lemmy?
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 months ago
In Brazil, is even more common now to people gather to watch the women football national team, not at the level of the men one, but there’s even companies where they close up when any of the two teams play, to give people opportunity to see the game.
RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Why does nobody watch the women’s leagues? Is it because nobody else does? can’t have all the social aspects of sports if nobody else is doing it.
Imo, they need to stop the segregation. Ditch the women’s leagues, but keep the games and teams. Have both teams play in one league, and contribute to the overall score of the team.
It’ll add new strategy to the seasons. Spend all of your budget on the dudes and hope they keep winning despite the ladies; build a strong women’s team to carry your b-tier men’s team; or something in between.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
This results in zero women playing sports.
I wish so much that the top women athletes were above the replacement level. It would create so much interest, we could all root for these women. It would be a benefit in terms of equal rights arguments when you could point to a woman being better at a sport than the men.
But unfortunately that’s just not reality. Male replacement level players are better than the best of the best female players. Having women on a team means having a player that’s below replacement level on the team. Meaning they could find a male player from a minor league team that could play better. This will never be a winning strategy.
There isn’t really a rule that prevents women from competing at the top level in professional sports at the top level. There just isn’t any women that can compete at that level. I remember around 20 years ago there was a woman goaltender that was really good and there were hopes she might be good enough to play in the NHL. Ended up not being as good as the male goalies in the minor leagues, so didn’t make the cut to get to the NHL.
It’s just one of those things where reality doesn’t conform to what we want it to be from a political standpoint. Women’s leagues exist (and should continue to exist) because if they didn’t women wouldn’t get to play sports. There’s always thousands of men that are stronger and faster than the strongest and fastest woman. It sucks, but it’s how it is.
People watch the NBA over the WNBA because they want to be the very best at the sport. It’s not a segregation rule that prevents women from playing in the NBA, it’s just that there aren’t any women that make the cut. Same goes for most sports.
But in the end it isn’t really a requirement to be the best at a sport to deserve equal rights. Sports are sports and it’s not really that important that there aren’t any women that make the cut at the top level of play. There’s more important things to worry about.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
I don’t like watching basketball (love playing it, though), but oddly enough I know of more people that go to WNBA games than NBA games, which comes to think of it seems odd. Maybe the seats are a lot less expensive…
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You can sometimes buy season tickets to the WNBA for the price of similar single-game NBA seats.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Caitlyn Clark should launch her own merch store or something.