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• yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Dude. Couldn’t even proofread the easy way out they took

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  • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This almost makes me think they’re trying to fully automate their publishing process. So, no editor in that case.

    Editors are expensive.

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    • yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If they really want to do it, they can just run a local language model trained to proofread stuff like this. Would be way better

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  • TheFarm@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is what baffles me about these papers. Assuming the authors are actually real people, these AI-generated mistakes in publications should be pretty easy to catch and edit.

    It does make you wonder how many people are successfully putting AI-generated garbage out there if they’re careful enough to remove obviously AI-generated sentences.

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    • BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I definitely utilize AI to assist me in writing papers/essays, but never to just write the whole thing.

      Mainly use it for structuring or rewording sections to flow better or sound more professional, and always go back to proofread and ensure that any information stays correct.

      Basically, I provide any data/research and get a rough layout down, and then use AI to speed up the refining process.

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    • MBM@lemmings.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve heard the word “delve” has suddenly become a lot more popular in some fields

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• shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This article has been removed at the request of the Editors-in-Chief and the authors because informed patient consent was not obtained by the authors in accordance with journal policy prior to publication. The authors sincerely apologize for this oversight.

  In addition, the authors have used a generative AI source in the writing process of the paper without disclosure, which, although not being the reason for the article removal, is a breach of journal policy. The journal regrets that this issue was not detected during the manuscript screening and evaluation process and apologies are offered to readers of the journal.

  The journal regrets – Sure, the journal. Nobody assuming responsibility …

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  • Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What, nobody read it before it was published? Whenever I’ve tried to publish anything it gets picked over with a fine toothed comb. But somehow they missed an entire paragraph of the AI equivalent of that joke from parks and rec: “I googled your symptoms and it looks like you have ‘network connectivity issues’”

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    • bitfucker@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am still baffled by the rat dick illustration that got past the review

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    • magic_lobster_party@kbin.run ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nobody would read it even after it was published. No scientist have time to read other’s papers. They’re too busy writing their own papers. This mistake probably made it more read than 99% of all other scientific papers.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think that part of the issue is quantity and volume. You submit a few papers a year, an AI can in theory submit a few per minute. Even if you filter 98% of them, mistakes will happen.

      That said, this particular error in the meme is egregious.

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  • Patrizsche@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Daaaaamn they didn’t even get consent from the patient😱😱😱 that’s even worse

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    • Frenchy@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean holy shit you’re right, the lack of patient consent is a much bigger issue than getting lazy writing the discussion.

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  • N4CHEM@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s removed from Elsevier’s site, but still available on PubMed Central: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11026926/#

    The worse part is, if I recall correctly, articles are stored in PubMed Central if they received public funding (to ensure public access), which means that this rubbish was paid with public funds.

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• clearedtoland@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hold up. That actually got through to publishing??

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  • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s because nobody was there to highlight the text for them.

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    • exscape@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The entire abstract is AI. Even without the explicit mention in one sentence, the rest of the text should've been rejected as nonspecific nonsense.

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  • hydroptic@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s Elsevier, so this probably isn’t even the lowest quality article they’ve published

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  • Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yea lol

    www.sciencedirect.com/…/S1930043324004096

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yep. And AI will totally help.

      Ooh I mean not help. It’ll make it much worse. Particularly with the social sciences. Which were already pretty fuX0r3d anyway due to the whole “your emotions equal this number” thing.

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  • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Many journals are absolute garbage that will accept anything. Keep that in mind the next time someone links a study to prove a point. You have to actually read the thing and judge the methodology to know if their conclusions have any merits.

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    • clearedtoland@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Full disclosure: I don’t intend to be condescending.

      Research Methods during my graduate studies forever changed the way I interpret just about any claim, fact, or statement. I’m obnoxiously skeptical and probably cynical, to be honest. It annoys the hell out of my wife but it beats buying into sensationalist headlines and miracle research. Then you get into the real world and see how data gets massaged and thrown around haphazardly…believe very little of what you see.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A good tactic, though not perfect, is to look at the journal impact factor.

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We are in top dystopia mode right now. Students have AI write articles that are proofread and edited by AI, submitted to automated systems that are AI vetted for publishing, then posted to platforms where no one ever reads the articles posted but AI is used to scrape them to find answers or train all the other AIs.

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    • veganpizza69@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How generative AI is clouding the future of Google search

      The search giant doesn’t just face new competition from ChatGPT and other upstarts. It also has to keep AI-powered SEO from damaging its results.

      More or less the same phenomenon of signal pollution:

      “Google is shifting its responsibility for maintaining the quality of results to moderators on Reddit, which is dangerous,” says Ray of Amsive. Search for “kidney stone pain” and you’ll see Quora and Reddit ranking in the top three positions alongside sites like the Mayo Clinic and the National Kidney Foundation. Quora and Reddit use community moderators to manually remove link spam. But with Reddit’s traffic growing exponentially, is a human line of defense sustainable against a generative AI bot army?

      We’ll end up using year 2022 as a threshold for reference criteria. Maybe not entirely blocked, but like a ratio… you must have 90% pre-2022 and 10% post-2022.

      Perhaps this will spur some culture shift to publish all the data, all the notes, everything - which will be great to train more AI on. Or we’ll get to some type of anti-AI or anti-crawler medium.

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• magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To me, this is a major ethical violation. If any actual humans submitted this “paper”, they should be severely disciplined by their ethics board.

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  • bitfucker@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But the publisher who published it should be liable too. Wtf is their job then? Parasiting off of public funded research?

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    • plantedworld@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes

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    • SuperCub@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Research journals are often rated for the quality of the content they publish. My guess is that this “journal” is just shit. If you’re a student or researcher, you will come across shit like this and you should be smart enough to tell when something is poor quality.

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A spanking!

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• repungnant_canary@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe, if reviewers were paid for their job they could actually focus on reading the paper and those things wouldn’t slide. But then Elsevier shareholders could only buy one yacht a year instead of two and that would be a nightmare…

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  • adenoid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Elsevier pays its reviewers very well! In fact, in exchange for my last review, I received a free month of ScienceDirect and Scopus…

    … Which my institution already pays for. Honestly it’s almost more insulting than getting nothing.

    I try to provide thorough reviews for about twice as many articles as I publish in an effort to sort of repay the scientific community for taking the time to review my own articles, but in academia reviewing is rewarded far less than publishing. Paid reviews sound good but I’d be concerned that some would abuse this system for easy cash and review quality would decrease (not that it helped in this case). If full open access publishing is not available across the board (it should be), I would love it if I could earn open access credits for my publications in exchange for providing reviews.

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    • Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve always wondered if some sort of decentralized, community-led system would be better than the current peer review process.

      That is, someone can submit their paper and it’s publicly available for all to read, then people with expertise in fields relevant to that paper could review and rate its quality.

      Now that I think about it it’s conceptually similar to Twitter’s community notes, where anyone with enough reputation can write a note and if others rate it as helpful it’s shown for all. Though unlike Twitter there would obviously need to be some kind of vetting process so that it’s not just random people submitting and rating papers.

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    • bananabenana@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Open access credits is a fantastic idea. Unfortunately it goes against the business model of these parasites. Ultimately, these businesses provide little to no actual value except siphoning taxpayer money. I really prefer eLifes current model but it would be great if it was cheaper. arXiv, Biorxiv provides a better service than most journals IMO

      Also I agree with the reviewing seriously and twice as often as publishing. Many people leave academia so reviewing more can cover them.

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    • mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perhaps paid reviews would increase quality because unpaid reviews are more susceptible to corruption

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck that, they should pay special bounty hunters to expose LLM garbage, I’d take that job instantly

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• PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Elsevier is such a fucking joke. Science should be free and open, anyways.

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• liss_up@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It is astounding to me that this happened. A complete failure of peer review, of the editors, and OF COURSE of the authors. Just absolutely bonkers that this made it to publication. Completely clown shoes.

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It keeps happening across all fields. I think we are about to witness a complete overhaul of the publishing model.

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    • maegul@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve been saying it to everyone who’ll listen …

      the journals should be run by universities as non-profits with close ties to the local research community (ie, editors from local faculty and as much of the staff from the student/PhD/Postdoc body as possible). It’s really an obvious idea. In legal research, there’s a long tradition of having students run journals (Barrack Obama, if you recall, was editor of the Harvard Law Journal … that was as a student). I personally did it too … it’s a great experience for a student to see how the sausage is made.

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    • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Using AI to detect AI uses in research papers : the research paper.

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• ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s OK, nobody will be able to read it anyway because it’s on Elsevier.

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• Nobody@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In Elsevier’s defense, reading is hard and they have so much money to count.

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• Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They mistakenly sent the “final final paper.docx” file instead of the final final final paper v3.docx. It could’ve happen to any of us.

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• soloner@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Guys it’s simple they just need to automate AI to read these papers for them to catch if AI language was used. They can automate the entire peer review process /s

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• blackstampede@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I started a business with a friend to automatically identify things like this, fraud like what happened with Alzheimer’s research, and mistakes like missing citations. If anyone is interested, has contacts or expertise in relevant domains or just wants to talk about it, hit me up.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google Retraction Watch.

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    • AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Legend right here.

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s the business model? (How does that generate revenue?)

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    • blackstampede@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re providing review assistance and some types of automated replication to publishers for a yearly rate, and planning to sell subscriptions to individual researchers for $50 /mo.

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• breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  the entire paragraph after the highlight is still AI too

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• weariedfae@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Image

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• TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How did this make it past review? I guess case reports might not have a peer review process

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Elsevier

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    • aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fun fact! In the Netherlands, Elsevier publishes a weekly magazine about politics, which is basically the written version of Fox News for that country. Very nice that those people control like 50% of all academic publishing.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would insert specific language into every single one of my submissions to see if my editors were doing their jobs. Only about 1/3 caught it. Short story long, I’m not just a researcher in a narrow field, I’m also an amateur marine biologist.

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• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  what if this was actually just a huge troll, and it wasn’t AI.

  Now that would be fucking hilarious.

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• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Most read Elsevier paper.

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Chuckles.

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• SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I won’t even post to Hexbear without rereading my post and editing spelling/grammar errors, how do people submit research papers that will effect their professional reputation without doing it?

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• anzo@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  All MDs, no PhDs. I wouldn’t have read that anyway, but rejected instead of publishing hehe. “Long live the system!” /s

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• ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Raneem Bader, Ashraf Imam, Mohammad Alnees, Neta Adler, Joanthan ilia, Diaa Zugayar, Arbell Dan, Abed Khalaileh. You are all accused of using chatgpt or whatever else to write your paper. How do you plead?

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  • Rolando@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do you plead?

    “I apologize, but I do not feel comfortable performing any pleas or participating in negative experiences. As an AI language model, I aim to help with document production. Perhaps you would like me to generate another article?”

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  • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My money is on non-existent. I bet one of those dudes is real, at best.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do you feel about using chatgpt as a translation tool?

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Depends on what kind of translation we’re talking here. Translating some chatter? Translating a web page (most of these suck)? Translating a book for it to be published? Translating a book so you can read it yourself? Translating a scientific paper so you can publish it, without proofreading the translation?

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• Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wouldn’t you want a pediatric hepatobiliary surgeon? A four month old is going to be a tricky case, I’d think.

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AI couldn’t even recommend the right specialist 😑

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    • maculata@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probs recommend a ‘Paedophile Hobgoblin’.

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• Tyoda@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “but for specific cases, it is essential to consult a medical professional”

  Foolish robot! I am the medical professional!

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• SuperCub@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Radiology Case Reports seems to be a low quality journal. www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php?category=2741&p…

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• Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ah… welp, tis the AI era, I guess…

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