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Quentin Tarantino's 'Star Trek' Movie Would Have Been a "Balls-Out Hard R" Movie
Submitted 11 months ago by Corgana@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
https://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-movie-hard-r/
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kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 11 months ago
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Man, now I’ll never find out how many times Samuel L Jackson can be called the n-word on the bridge of the Enterprise…
Corgana@startrek.website 11 months ago
I understand hesitancy for an R-rated Star Trek movie, and I also understand that Tarantino’s style isn’t for everyone, but that said- he always puts a lot of effort in to crafting a good story, and there’s always a ton of attention detail. His movies are never shallow pandering cash grabs like certain other directors who will remain nameless here.
So while a Tarantino Trek movie sounds very weird on the surface, I think he’s far and away earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to making any movie at this point and I would welcome his perspective.
Not that it’s ever gonna happen, of course. But if we do ever see a new movie, I would far prefer an auteur over a plug-n-play disneyfied cash grab like we see with the MCU, Star Wars, and basically any other pop culture franchise.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
If he really wanted to do it he could do a sci-fi movie without it being attached to Trek and it would still make a billion dollars.
I like Tarantino movies and I like Star Trek, but they don’t need to mix
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t you men feet out? Preferably, women’s feet. Covered in oil?
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 11 months ago
Quentin’s pitch: “So there’s an entire species where they’re all feet. And Kirk says the n-word. Like, a lot.”
guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I still maintain that a Quentin Tarantino Trek likely would have been the greatest Trek film ever made (not a high bar though). Imagine something like Inglourious Basterds but set during the Cardassian resistance. Come on, that would be the greatest Trek ever made. But the rights holders have always been Trek’s biggest enemy.
KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No. The story would revolve around an intergalactic war started over a teenage girl’s feet.
guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I didn’t say give him full artistic freedom!
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t think it would be, galaxy quest set a pretty damn high bar.
Corgana@startrek.website 11 months ago
Imagine Inglourious Basterds set during the Cardassian occupation of Bajor
Damnit Jim, I hate that you said this because I know I’ll never get it!
Ithorian@hexbear.net 11 months ago
I love Tarantino but I would hate to see his star trek. His balls hard R star wars movie on the other hand would be the best film in the series.
Basilisk@mtgzone.com 11 months ago
I feel like in the best case it would have been a catastrophe that somehow manages to fall together in a way that actually works, and in the worst case it would have just been bad to the point of being offensively bad, appealing to neither regular filmgoers whole also pissing off established fans.
… But it also feels like giving a chainsaw to a bear: You know whatever’s gonna happen you’re not gonna like, but also you kinda want to do it just to see what it is.
Donjuanme@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your last analogy made me snort my 3 sleeping partners (human canine and feline) awake.
Also spot on. But I really don’t want to see it. But I’m sure I’d be entertained by reading about the result.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Tarantino movies do tend to feature the hard r pretty prominently.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 months ago
Romulan?
Plopp@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Jesus, man, Omulan please.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It would have been like the mirror mirror episode only with more of Uhuras feet.
Vaggumon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’m a big Qentin Tarantino fan, but I never felt he was right for Star Trek. Not his type of movie IMO. But what the fuck do I know.
Corgana@startrek.website 11 months ago
I just left a comment with more detail elsewhere, but at this point I think he’s earned the benefit of the doubt. Tarantino-Trek sounds like a weird combo, but based on his spotless track record, I would be surprised if he somehow managed made a stinker.
Lucien@hexbear.net 11 months ago
I love Tarantino films; major fan. But I don’t think he’s capable of nuance or subtext, both of which are heavily used in the franchise. I would also abhor a “hard R” Star Trek film. It would be right up there with the Kelvin films. There’s no way in hell the fan base would allow something like that to be canonized. The only alternative 8 could see is if it involved time travel and all of the "hard R"s were from humans from the past.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
Star Trek itself often has nuance that’s about as subtle as being hit in the face with a brick. Need I remind everyone about Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, TOS S3E15.
TonyHawksPoTater@kbin.social 11 months ago
I think when they say "hard R" here, they mean a strong R rating for the film, not the other hard R for which Tarantino is known.
guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Counterpoint: with some subject matter, you don’t need nuance or subtext. Hence why IB remains, in my opinion, his greatest work. It’s one of the few subjects where you don’t need nuance so the good technical aspects of his filmmaking doesn’t just wash out in all the blood and gore. All you have to do is cook up a story in the Trek universe where his filmmaking style would be an asset (hint: have the story revolve around killing fascists), don’t give him complete control, and make him work in tandem with Star Trek old hands like Brannon Braga or Jonathan Frakes and I honestly think you’d end up with something good.
Personally, I think Star Trek is good enough that it deserves more and more interesting film treatments than it’s gotten. Tarantino Trek would upset a lot of people, but if it was good, it could kick open the door to experimenting with all different kinds of styles.
FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 11 months ago
Either talk about the plot, set a production date or stop writing these nothing articles.
I mean, no duh Tarantino would do a Trek movie that has lots of blood. To be familiar with his name is to know that's his style. Just tired of years teasing how great something WOULD'VE BEEN but not saying why.
DosDude@retrolemmy.com 11 months ago
I like star trek, and I like R-movies. I don’t know if they will mix well.
reddig33@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hopefully better than Discovery gratuitously using the F word.
Stamets@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It used it once.
Yall really get butthurt over the weirdest fuckin things.
TIN@feddit.uk 11 months ago
A team of section 31 assassins armed with katanas are beamed aboard the enemy starship with orders to take out the top leadership?
Damage@feddit.it 11 months ago
So, set on Qo’noS?
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a longtime Trek fan, I’m certainly in favor of it. There’s plenty of things to work with; things implied but never really shown. Which is why I also liked more recent Trek projects like Strange New Worlds and Picard. They have a bit more grit to them.
Tarantino’s trek would not have been for everyone… but it certainly would’ve been a massive hit. Even if you hate his other work, you can’t help but be intrigued.
Corgana@startrek.website 11 months ago
With Tarantino you’re also guaranteed to have a well-crafted product. It would never be a shallow cash-grab like certain other movies in the franchise.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I mean, of course it was going to be R-rated, Quent doesn’t exactly make family-friendly pics.
But also, why is everyone always trying to make Star Trek edgier these days?
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Re: edgier Trek:
For me, I feel like we’ve had so much ‘positive utopia’ Trek, that more of the same just gets a bit boring. There’s also the fact that life today is different compared to when Trek first aired. We’re more aware of some of those sharper edges and want to see them represented in media.
From a practical standpoint, there’s also ‘we can, so we do’. When Trek aired on regular TV, you couldn’t drop an F-bomb, much less show actual gritty stuff. With streaming, there’s no reason to hold back. Which gives writers more room to explore.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 months ago
Pretty much every trek since 9/11 has been edgy.
query@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lucky they made DS9 before TNG had even finished, then.
We didn’t really get more of the TNG side of things with the TNG movies. Then they moved on to JJA Star Trek, which wasn’t much of anything, not dark, not utopian, just references.
While Discovery was in part based around rescuing an ultra-fascist from another universe.
It took bringing back Picard himself to approach doing what they once did decades ago.
guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Because you can only tell so many stories when literally all of your characters are required to be so narrow and flat it becomes a matter of debate and discussion when they do or say anything that would make them seem like real people.
Stamets@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Exactly. There is painfully little character development done throughout TNG. At the end of the final season the characters are still basically the same person who they were at the start. Picard is a little softer, Data is a little closer to being a person, Worf is still just Worf, Geordi is arguably a creepier person, Riker did not change like at all either. Basically the person with the most character development was Yar who died and then got resurrected through time shenanigans before forced into sexual slavery to a Romulan until she died. That’s not exactly… impressive. I love TNG and I love all the stories and the morals it tells but in todays TV atmosphere it is impossible to properly replicate that. Even SNW keeps a consistent plot throughout all the episodes and limits it to half of what TNG was dropping per year.
Then you look at Deep Space 9. This show is constantly praised by people left right and center. Why? Character development, a consistent plot, a serialized story and consequences that carry over from episode to episode instead of being immediately forgotten or relegated to a simple reference with a background prop. It is insane to me that so many people hate the newer Trek iterations for being “too dark” and “focusing too much on story” when that’s just Deep Space 9. An incredibly dark show that covers some seriously heavy subject material and has a consistent story that affects everything else around it.
kandoh@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I’m guessing it would have really leaned into the colonial pulp fiction aspect of the original series.
Flyberius@hexbear.net 11 months ago
All I know is that I would really have wanted to see it.
skellener@kbin.social 10 months ago
I’d still love to see him make it!
xilliah@beehaw.org 11 months ago
Set phasers to fry
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Pure marketing piffle.
Paramount would never let a Hard R Trek get made. Not only is it the completely wrong tone for Trek (even if you rate the JJ Abrams movies) but it would seriously harm ticket sales as kids and young teens would be prohibited from going to the theater to see it. Imagine Kirk and Spock sitting around, smoking weed, talking about their favorite obscure 2200s films while holding knives to each other’s nutsacks.
They only started talking about Tarantino directing a Star Trek movie in order to build hype for the new Trek shows that are of dubious quality.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 months ago
I also don’t think Captain Picard needs to drop the N-word while gazing at alien feet tbh