And a majority of Americans have completely bought this bullshit. That’s why workers will fight against any kind of single payer.
They say, "You'll have to wait". It's a bullshit argument against Universal Healthcare.
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SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 20 minutes ago
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You have to wait under the current system, too. I’d rather not be paying $500/mo for the privilege.
cheesemoo@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
No need to wait at all when for-profit insurance tells you it’s just not covered! So efficient. Best system ever.
feral_sh@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
Luigi is a motherfucking American hero. Make sure you donate to his legal fund if you can!
lena@gregtech.eu 3 hours ago
He didn’t even do anything, I was playing chess with him at the time of Brian Thompson’s murder
feral_sh@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
For real, I was there were were taking turns!
atearinspace@retrofed.com 2 hours ago
I just had to wait for 3 weeks to get a refill on my daily asthma inhaler, one and a half of them without my meds. There was some sort of supply issue with my regular one, so had to get a new one prescribed. I had to deal with going back and forth with the pharmacy, doc office, and insurance company to finally get the approved brands/prior authorizations figured out. I’m glad my asthma isn’t too bad right now despite being allergy season.
I’m taking a wild guess here, but I’m guessing that folks in places with universal healthcare don’t have to deal with this sort of bullshit.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Kind of. I’m in Germany (but from the US), and while it’s leagues and leagues better than the US, I recently had a similar issue. I was prescribed a daily generic medication that comes in increments of 100, which had some supply issues. The name brand version comes in increments of 30, so I had to get my prescription rewritten for 90 pills instead of 100, because they couldn’t just dispense less medication than I was prescribed.
I ended up going two days without my medication, but it was still better than in a non universal healthcare system. I used the same medication in the US, and regularly had to skip a day or two around refills, plus I was only able to fill one month at a time and had to pay way more. In the US, I had to pay for: a monthly doctor’s visit, a drug test to make sure I was taking my medication, and a high prescription cost ($50-$330/month, depending on whether I’d reached my deductible and whether it was a generic or not). In Germany, I pay 8.50€/month for the brand name or 10€/3 months for the generic, no cost for doctor’s visits and no required drug test.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
When would you like to see your primary care doctor? We have an appointment slot in 6 months you have no idea if you can get the day off for, but you can waitlist for an earlier appointment cancellation that you probably won’t be available for either…
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 hours ago
The only long wait times in socialized health care are for non-critical issues, although sometimes the definition of “non-critical” can differ from what a person might expect.
I was a long term pain patient because my spine has been fucked since i was a teen, and waiting times for things like these are sometimes longer than they should be. But every time i had an emergency, service was impeccable and on par with the highest level of care you can pay for.
VAK@lemmy.world 56 minutes ago
This has been my experience too. Maybe we need one government department focused on healthspan, rather than lifespan.
mrmisses@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Or is the biggest lie “death panels” that will deny you help. Let’s ask Luigi
Obituarykidney@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I had a severely herniated disc to the point where I spent a good six months or so on opiates and stuck laying in bed. Was ok to walk short distances after a while so it was considered low priority for surgery. 3 year wait time, but I finally had it done and went home after a night in the hospital. The opiates were ~$12 for a month with no insurance.
Cost me $0, and was given strong meds to take home for post op pain. Also free. (In Australia).
Idk if I’d have even gotten surgery in America, Luigi killed the United cunt because he was denied treatment for the same issue. Like, what’s the point of insurance if there’s a chance they won’t even give it to you at all? And if they do you’re still probably so out of pocket that you’re worse off anyways.
Like yeah, I wish I’d been treated sooner. It fucking sucked and I’ll have back pain for the rest of my life. But I had the option to go private and go into debt if I wanted to. Americans don’t even have a choice.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
In Germany that’s fitting though (in most cases). Privately insured I just go to most docs when I need to, don’t have to wait for an appointment and don’t have to wait when I’m there.
People tell me they’ll sometimes have to wait maaaany months for an appointment. Even years for areas like psychotherapy.
funkreddit@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Legend
natecox@programming.dev 26 minutes ago
I had to wait an entire year to get into a specialist to diagnose a tumor we knew was in my ear canal. Tell me more about how privatized health care is so fast.