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Should the next President of the US pardon Trump for all his crap like Ford did Nixon?

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We got Trump in no small part because Nixon was pardoned.

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    • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      14A3 disqualification, impeachment, prosecution for crimes against humanity, put him against the wall

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nope. Pardoning Nixon was a mistake that should not be repeated.

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    • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Giving him a general pardon and not for specifics was the mistake. Alternate history for Nixon going to trial or any other course other than the one he took is a wild ride. As is most points in history, but it would have been an ugly America, so Ford's spoken motive had some merit. Whether Reagan makes it in seems to be a debated point, depending on how long the Nixon trial(s) go.

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    • YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But he was not a crook, someone said?

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      • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Then that someone has slept in school, or had an American education.

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  • silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think the country needs nuremburg trials

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    • jackal@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hear, hear! We need to have an absolute fuckton of trials for people involved in this blatantly corrupt administration.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      #GuillotineParty

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ford shouldn’t have pardoned Nixon.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nixon looks like an angel compared to Presidents after him.

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even if Trump copied Nixon by resigning early so Vance could pardon him, he’d still be facing various state charges. (And he could always be extradited outside the US for war crimes.)

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  • Space_Cowboy92@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck no.

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  • HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck no

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  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The next president should arrest every other president and conscribe them to slave labor until the nation’s school lunch debts are repaid.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does this include digging most of them up and propping them up on trial in the manner of Pope Formosus?

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      • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think that’s up to the president, sounds stinky

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    • dan1101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And private prisons all closed.

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      • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Replaced with The People’s Prison where I can throw things at all the incarcerated presidents like a horribly mismanaged zoo

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Should they or would they? Should they? Of course not. Will they ? Of course because no POTUS wants to set precedent of accountability.

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    • whoneedsgravy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s like that thing in the drive thru, where the person in the car ahead paid for your coffee. The President pardons the president behind him so the next president can pardon him.

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  • Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bro what next president

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  • pbhj@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You should drop him into Iran to face punishment from the Iranian families whose children he bombed at school.

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    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There ain’t enough of him to go around. Willing to negotiate sending a musk, hegseth, or thiel though.

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  • fratermus@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No.

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  • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    NO. Pardons shouldn’t cover unrepentant criminals who know what they’re doing.

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  • Bwaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Of course not. He should send Trump and his sons to Guantanimo.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck no.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sure of only one thing, the rest of the world won’t pardon you so easily you fucktards

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  • anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He doesn’t need one. SCOTUS said it’s all legal.

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ford was a loyalist who put party over country. We needed a reckoning and that never happened. If it had happened, you’d have found a much different Reagan and Trump presidency.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No

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  • Toasticus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hard to pardon someone who hasn’t like…been convicted or impeached yet. For some reason.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      except that is literally what Ford did to Nixon, and pardons aren’t a thing for impeachment anyway (for US federal offenses)

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      • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I do think you have to admit to the crime tho. I could be wrong but accepting a pardon means you agree you were guilty I believe.

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  • Thorry@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The whole pardon thing should be abolished ASAP!

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    • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The pardon isn’t the problem, it’s who gets elected. The power of the pardon has existed for a thousand years or so in English Common Law.

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  • Major_Tsiom@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well no, but the next president will likely be Republican and will surely do it. We can't vote them out anymore. Our last chance was 2024. We have to overthrow them. If we do that, then we should hang Trump.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He won’t live long enough to face consequences. Let him pass in infamy as the most corrupt ever. Let him be featured only in history about how fragile democracy can be.

    And dish out justice for his minions and sycophants, everyone who violated the constitution, broke laws or enriched themselves. Especially including his family

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, but they will.

    It’s a big club, we ain’t in it, and their class solidarity is absolute.

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  • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No. We need to make examples.

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  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The next “president” will quite likely be named trump.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If they run Hillary or Harris again, you’re probably right.

      Jon Stewart should be president. And Mark Kelly should be his VP.

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  • DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Man I don’t even give a damn anymore. This is what its always been they used to just keep appearances up. It’s a circus of our suffering for the aristocracy.

    Fuck Trump. Fuck the next president too. Fuck them all. None of them give a fuck about us or our children.

    We should start over.

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No. The correct course of action is a public hanging.

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  • Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If he is pardoned, we will get Nixon 3.0 but somehow dumber and more corrupt.

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  • peacepath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there a chance the next president of the US be neither republican nor democrat (for the parties labels)?

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