It doesn’t matter what it is, if I have to do it 40 hours a week I will hate it.
Forty hours, one life...
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Don_alForno@feddit.org 6 hours ago
cRazi_man@europe.pub 7 minutes ago
Theres breathing and there’s sleeping… Checkmate
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I think that’s a misunderstanding of the intent. Obviously having a miserable job will make you miserable. But not everyone has to have a job that is their life’s great passion. It’s OK to have a job that just pays the bills. It’s OK to not care about your work.
That’s the part that CEOs hate to hear. Capitalism wants everyone to believe that their work has to define them, has to be the most important thing they do. Because if you get people to believe that then 1) that depresses wages for the “meaningful” jobs by creating more competition, and 2) it sells the lie that you have to go above and beyond because if you’re not treating your job as a calling then you’re failing at life.
It’s OK to clock out on time. It’s OK to put in the minimum effort required. It’s OK to care about your work life balance. And it’s OK to find a job that just pays the bills and doesn’t stress you out.
sanpo@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Exactly. You don’t have to like your job.
But you can’t spend half your life doing something you hate.
And in the middle is where I guess most people are, a job is just a means to an end.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Pradoxically, I think for a lot of people, understanding that your job doesn’t have to be your passion is actually the key to not hating it. People push themselves to give everything they have to their work in the belief that it somehow brings meaning to their lives, or they put up with endless abuse to do a job just because it’s something they’re passionate about. Those same people might be a lot more happy and less stress if they were willing to check out and just let their job be a job, or find some work that pays the bills while they pursue their passions as a hobby instead.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
This age will be looked upon as a terrible dark age, and it will be mind-bending for the future generations how barbaric we were.
Assuming we just don’t end up in an I have no mouth, and I must scream scenario.
ape_arms@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I think another thing that people miss is that anything you HAVE to do (i.e. responsibility) is going to get old at some point. My “dream” would be to make its as a musician, but even that would get tiring and monotonous at some point after doing it over and over again. I mean, I’d still take that life, but every job has plusses and minuses.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I’m over 20 years into my field. I used to really find the science behind it fascinating.
Now I don’t give a shit and just want to be free and never think about it again.
muelltonne@feddit.org 1 day ago
There is also a lot to be said about colleagues and company culture. It’s better to do a job where you’re not that invested in doing it with great colleagues in a great company than having your dream job in your dream field in a completely toxic environment.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 hours ago
I wouldn’t say I spend those 40 hours “dedicated” to it. I am physically present at best.
There is a difference between not liking it and hating it though.
Stolas@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
It’s also hypocritical because companies fully expect you to pretend to like your job for their own satisfaction.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
I worked at a job a decade ago where the management expected you to show your company pride OR ELSE.
But they didn’t seem to have a problem doing layoffs.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 hours ago
This kinda stuff is something I respect in the generation below me where I work. They have no concern with saying they hate it and want another job in front of management. While I usually only feel comfortable saying it to coworkers at the pub.
raze2012@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Spend 2 generations going “we’re a family!” then ousting otherwise well performing workers. Then are stupified when the next generation no longer falls for the propoganda. Gen Z is in for a reckoning on this society.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
It’s a lie. A bad job absolutely will negatively affect the rest of your life.
2piradians@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Plus the unpaid commute for many of us, which is both lengthy and expensive in many cases
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The worst part of my day, the worst part almost every single day, is when I have to unwrap myself from the arms of those who love me the most before getting in a vehicle and driving away from them at the maximum legal speed. All the nonsense at work I can mostly handle. I even have a job where I can be creative, I’ve got a job so cool that if I mentioned my job title, nobody would believe me.
But I really just want to be home with my wife.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
But I really just want to be home with my wife.
Sorry, can’t have that until you’re 65-70. Then you’ll just be sitting in hospitals with each other and figuring out how you’ll pay for end-of-life care.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Yaaaay.
Sometimes we are disappointed to wake up and find that society hasn’t collapsed.
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 19 hours ago
I’ve got a job so cool that if I mentioned my job title, nobody would believe me.
Is it “CAD monkey,” perchance?
gibmiser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Man, I live in a county dominated by a military base. It has been and still is hard finding suitable work that is not department of defense or a contractor. If I had a job that supported our military it would be weighing heavy on me.
SillyDude@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Same, but whole state. I was able to for a good while but have been laid off from anyone who isn’t, which is like 3 places. I knew going into the engineering college that I did was pipeline to the labs, but I promised to never work for the military or any federal contractor. Or even anything tangentially related.
I just want to be a farmer now. Sell eggs and peppers at the farmers market. I don’t need much to live.
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I prefer “work to live, not live to work”.
I have a very professional job. I could of I wanted to absolutely pour my entire life essence into this job and I would probably make more money than I make now and be more professionally successful.
But in reality, my career is and will always be a way to support me and my family. Bottom line.
You should absolutely be looking for a job and a career that gives you balance, wherever that balance may be for you personally.
Honestly I have never heard anyone give the advice in that post anyway…
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I’ve turned down promotions because I knew what it would do to my mental health.
I’ll let the ladder climbers climb. I don’t want to hate my life all day, every day.
daychilde@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a spectrum.
I wasn’t diagnosed with ADHD until I was 30 - that diagnosis helped a lot.
When I was growing up, I was convinced I was going to be a programmer like my dad. And when I was seeking work, I was trying to work my way up doing tech support to get my foot into the tech door.
The problem is that this was in the late 90s, before chat support (which I was much better at surviving). Telephone support sucked. I’m good at it, but I passionately hate it. I kept getting jobs doing it.
I remember once of them, around 2003, I got a job for a cable internet provider. Went through training, got out on the floor. I lasted about two weeks and one day I literally could not talk myself into going to work.
That’s really not what they’re talking about. In my case, I had to find something else to do.
All the saying really means is that it’s okay if you don’t enjoy your job - that you don’t wake up and go HOLY SHIT I GET TO GO TO WORK COME ON LET’S GO GO GOOOOOO. You do have to survive, of course. And if you’re in a shitty place, if you can find a better place, go for it.
But it’s okay if you’re mostly just ticking the hours at work and you can find your passions outside of it.
You also have to be able to stand up and stop after-hours bullshit, too. That is stolen labour and is illegal.
But it is complicated, sure. One simple saying is not This Is The Rulebook For Everyone’s Life.
danc4498@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Part of the problem is many of us can’t describe what a good job is. So we just stick with what we got.
merc@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
“A job” is the modern equivalent of “finding enough berries to stay alive for a few more days” or “going through the crops on your hands and knees picking weeds and killing pests”.
It’s insane to think that a job is supposed to be fun. A job is what you have to do to survive.
Some extremely lucky people will actually find something that they love doing, are good at, and that people are actually willing to pay them money to do. If you’re among the richest billion people on the planet, you may be lucky enough to have a job that’s boring, unfulfilling, but not dangerous and doesn’t involve back breaking labour.
For most people on the planet, a job is whatever you have to do to get a roof over your head and enough to eat for the next meal. Of course it’s going to suck, and it’s probably going to be a lot more than 40 hours a week. But, the alternative is death.
If you are one of those richest billion people and you have a job you hate, but you could do a job that’s only unfulfilling and boring, by all means, switch.
natecox@programming.dev 21 hours ago
Nah, fuck this.
If we were allowed to do just what is necessary for survival we would spend way, way less time on it than we do working now. Picking weeds from a crop just big enough to support a family does not take 40 hours a week 52 weeks a year. Picking berries does not require you to check with a supervisor before you’re allowed to pee during working hours. We live in a form of indentured servitude, which eats most of our waking hours and provides a host of genuine physical and mental health issues.
The sentiment in the comment I’m responding to is reductionist nonsense borne of corporate brainwashing.
This shit has nothing to do with “a job should be sunshine and rainbows” and everything to do with “working a 60 hour work week to displace more wealth into the hands of a few people is not and should not be seen as fine”.
merc@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
If we were allowed to do just what is necessary for survival we would spend way, way less time on it than we do working now
Sure, bud.
Picking weeds from a crop just big enough to support a family does not take 40 hours a week 52 weeks a year
Sure, bud. I guess you’ve never met a farmer?
We live in a form of indentured servitude
Sure, bud. That famous form of indentured servitude where you get nights and weekends off, and are free to change bosses at any time.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 hours ago
i want a job close to home, where my boss makes sure im not working too hard and kicks us out when its time to clock out. i would honestly do pretty much anything for a boss like that. these MBA cunts think they need to squeeze every drop of blood from us but dont realize that if they just treated us like humans with a little fucking compassion theyd get so much more.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I’ve wanted to blow my brains out at every job I’ve ever had except the one I currently have.
I decided that I was going to blow my brains out unless I could find a job that treated me with respect, paid me fairly, and gave me decent benefits, without piling on so much work that I felt like I was being physically crushed.
I got lucky and after 1,000,000 applications and basically at the end of my rope, I finally got it. Or, honestly, I probably would have blown my brains out cuz I was pretty much over this shit.
Our work culture is fucking dogshit.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I used to complain to my dad about my truly horrible jobs, and he would always say something along the lines of “No one likes their job.” and treat it as if all jobs are equally bad, so I should stop complaining.
About six months after he retired he realized he had legitimate PTSD because his jobs were so awful, but he had to fully relax before he could even feel it. He’s a lot more empathetic now, but my current job is actually nice.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Same story here.
My parents had to step out of the shithole grind they’d been normalized to before getting enough perspective to have sympathy. And even then, they didn’t have to deal with one million applications and a super intensely competitive job market with shitstain computer moderated hiring processes that we do. They had their career jobs by their late 20s. I didn’t get mine until 35 and that was after a super long job hunt and crazy background check and living pretty near poverty level the whole time.
My dad liked to think that me complaining about jobs meant I didn’t want to work and jerk off all day. Nah. I wanted to be treated with human decency and not worked like a machine until I burned out, without much to show for it.
Our work culture is dogshit.
x00z@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
There’s a difference between accepting your job and liking it.
A job has always been necessary. Even if you live of the land you still have to put in the work to survive.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Also, not all jobs are sitting at a desk looking at a screen.
I got lucky and found a job I actually enjoyed doing. Yes, I’d take the occasional mental health day, but most Mondays I went to work feeling pretty okay.
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 minute ago
So “never take a job you hate, unless absolutely needed for reasons” is a good advice