“Netflix for games” has proven to be far from the ideal solution.
Gamepass didn’t make their games shitty.
Game Pass Was Supposed To Save Xbox – Instead, It’s Killing the Company
Submitted 1 day ago by mereo@piefed.ca to games@lemmy.world
https://www.ign.com/articles/game-pass-was-supposed-to-save-xbox-instead-its-killing-the-company
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rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
moustachio@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I’m back and forth on that… it might have had a hand in that because gamepass making them try to pump out content / games asap in order to populate the service… but also, MS is just generally shitty so maybe they just bungled two things at once.
trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Starfield’s revenue sits at roughly $300 million across all platforms. […] a figure surely sabotaged by the Xbox and PC-exclusive RPG being readily available on Game Pass from the second it landed.
Well, let’s not forget that it was often not highly regarded, because the content was spread out so much. And that it launched in the wake of Baldur’s Gate 3.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Pretty sure Skyrim is on gamepass and that games still selling everywhere
llii@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Yeah. I had a game pass subscription back when it launched but I didn’t play it because of the full gameplay and world.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I hate Microsoft. I love XBOX.
I hate Nintendo. I love Nintendo games.
I hate Sony. I loved Sony.
I love VALVE. I love Steam.
PC is the Endgame.
nullify3112@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Until Gabe has a heart attack, venture capitalists takes over and stab all the PC gamers in the back. I guess there will be warning signs and it’s still people to un-DRM some Steam games so for now we’re ok.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
People seem to forget valve was ahead of the curve of being anti consumer. They were the first to really heavily push online DRM for single player games (Half Life 2) and made online marketplace games mainstream (TF2 store items like hats and CSGO skins). I wish they would make a new ground breaking single player game that wasn’t relegated to VR but I digress.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
People will have to buy exabytes of disk in a rush to download their Steam libraries, storage prices will soar (again).
ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sony has always been ‘cool but evil’ and haven’t really changed.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I loved the little Sony laptops. Other than that, meh. They kept pushing weird proprietary things…
Racoonwithbenefits@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Its very different from a video streaming service
It makes little sense
You can make several episodes of a tv show for a fraction of the cost of a large video game, and in muuuuuuuuuch less time
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can also watch a season of a TV show far faster than I can play through a video game at the size that AAA publishers keep making them.
trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yeah, similarly, you don’t rewatch movies or series all too often, but there’s quite a lot of people that just play one or two games pretty much forever…
terabyterex@lemmy.world 1 day ago
i really dont understand why people dislike game pass. i am mainly a pc player so i use it there but i also have an xbox. i have played so many games i woild have never tried and i live having the xbox studio games on release. i am a patient gamer do i always waited for a game tp drop below $40.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That’s fine and dandy but what if it was the only option to play games? What happens when Gamepass is 49.99 a month? And a couple years later, it is 54.99, the 64.99.
What if they start gate keeping your save files? What if licenses expire and they get delisted and you can’t play them ever again?
This is the problem with Gamepass, and all subscription services if they dominate a market.
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Piracy is an option. Your existing game library is an option. There is no shortage of alternative game marketplaces. Especially on PC where people still overwhelmingly prefer Steam even in cases where it costs more. I’m not saying it’s impossible but the odds of it happening in the current market is extremely unlikely.
LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 1 day ago
I can spend the monthly Game Pass cost on a new Steam game once a month and add to am ever growing, “permanent” library rather than just piss my money away on renting games.
warm@kbin.earth 1 day ago
People dont want a subscription to play games, it only made sense as an extension of Xbox Live. Outside of that it was mainly used as a way to demo some games for a month, or play that one game for $1.
Just buying games has way more value overall.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Day 1 AAA games were its biggest value in my opinion, because those are the most expensive games. I forgot the exact old prices, but I think on PC it was 12 and on console 15 Euros. Paying 180 Euros per year to “lend” them is still cheaper then buying one AAA game each or just every second month. I’m not the biggest fan of subscription. When I stop paying, then I loose access to those games. Yes, that’s the point of it, but that is also the problem I have. When the point of as service is a problem, then we have a problem. Therefore I purchase games rather (especially on PC). But that’s not the value for everyone else. Game Pass genuinely had its value, even if you subscribe for a few months in a row.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Game Pass was great when it was literally only $1/month. After that, the value of it rapidly declined.
wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
i have played so many games i woild have never tried and i live having the xbox studio games on release. i am a patient gamer so i always waited for a game to drop below $40. its nice having access to so many.
Subscription gaming has its problems but I’m with you on this.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
i probably would have disliked avowed if i paid full price for it but trying it out on game pass i could be less critical and just enjoy it. and i tried south of midnight on game pass and liked it so much i bought it
FluidBeef@quokk.au 1 day ago
Oh no.
warmaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Good news?
CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 1 day ago
First of all, fuck Microsoft. But I prefer a reality where Xbox exists as at the very least a competitor
Peffse@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I feel like I’m going to summon somebody from c/latestagecapitalism but it really seems like we’ve gotten to the point where companies are so big, so invested in everything, that the “scrappy can-do company” can no longer challenge the ingrained supremacy.
So we just kinda… wish for less abuse from whoever is still in the market.
I asked all the gamers I know who they think could turn around that Playstation news and enter the market by promoting physical media. All I really got was shrugs. Nobody really can. Sega is out. Gamestop probably would benefit most, but they don’t design hardware. Evercade has hardware and production lines, but fills a niche at best. You’ve got giants like Google who failed with Stadia, so Amazon and Samsung probably wouldn’t dare try.
It’s uhh… not good.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think the reality is that we outgrew our need for consoles the way they’ve always existed, with certification, exclusives, walled gardens, generations, etc. that no longer make sense. If you want physical to come back, it’s probably on a PC somehow, but people also don’t typically have disc drives anymore, and even offline games tend to get patches and updates that you’d have to account for in some way; the media you can store that on will have a more restrictive shelf life and cost more to purchase.
mereo@piefed.ca 1 day ago
In my opinion, only PC and Linux matter. We desperately need Linux to succeed because it’s a community project. Yes, companies contribute to it, but it’s still a community project with no for-profit objective.
For many in the open-source community, contributing is an affair of love, not a way to enrich shareholders. We need this ecosystem to compete with console companies and Microsoft in the PC market.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Games Media has been acting like they want Xbox to die off and have only Sony and Nintendo making hardware, but I have been saying for years that would be horrendously bad for gaming.
Nintendo pulled the ultimate anti-consumer move by actively removing themselves from competing with PlayStation and Xbox.
Right now Sony is acting like they have no competition, pushing the envelop of what they can get way with while Xbox is still in the game: No more disks, absurd price increases, etc. They figure the same thing I was warning: Don’t like it? Where are you going to go? To what competitor? See you in two weeks.
But for all the Normies? They don’t care. Just eat up the slop until the water is boiling them alove and they won’t have noticed until its too late.
andyburke@fedia.io 1 day ago
https://kazeta.org/
Why root for MS when you don't have to? We have never had more megacorp-free gaming options.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s true; Game Pass exists in part because Microsoft didn’t have a great inroad against Playstation. Playstation kicked PS+ features forward in part because Game Pass was eating their lunch at a time when subscriptions seemed like a critical market element.
But these days, if I see an appeals board reject a corporate merger, it seems like a failed measure regardless - that both parties are already colluding as much as possible.