It’s nice to have an option that isn’t one of the corporate overlords. I want it to be successful, but I also don’t want it to be mainstream, because that brings mainstream level problems too.
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SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Some will, but if they haven’t left yet I don’t see why they would. We’ll continue to get stragglers that get banned from reddit.
limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lemmy can’t grow niche communities without significantly larger number of users.
Lots of users will not replace Reddit with Lemmy without access to the niche Reddit they’re active in.
Personally, I still use Reddit for a lot of niche communities that just aren’t present on Lemmy.
Although, if they they shut down a RedReader’s API access that would force my hand, as the official app is unusable IMO.
mursejoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I use Narwhal 2 for now. $5 a month is a small price to pay for the largest aggregation of information outside of Wikipedia.
Once they force the proprietary app on me I’ll likely be out. It’s a bloated cartoonish app.
I like Lemmy a lot but like people are saying it needs more users. I try and post my own content to practice what I preach.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
PragmaticOne@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hehe this made me chuckle :D
Bear003@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I just did.
So far really enjoying.
Reddit i really changed… forcing the app
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Welcome to Lemmy, glad you’re here!
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I come across many users less than 3 months old, and they tend to introduce themselves occasionally on !reddit@lemmy.world.
It’s fine if they come over a little at a time or in large waves or even if they don’t. I do worry about sometimes there are periods where discussion feels a little more toxic, bandwagoney and rigid, and others where people allow themselves to be a little more nuanced when discussing with each other. I like this site more when the latter is happening. Maybe new users need a little time settling down into a slightly different culture which is normal and expected.
Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Of all the reddit replacements, Lemmy has the most staying power because of its federated nature. It’s not dependent on a single source of administration or funding. Voat, for example, went to shit because it ended up full of Nazis that got ran off of reddit and then they ran out of money. While this same fate could potentially befall any individual Lemmy instance, the platform as a whole can react and continue.
Arts251@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I hope so. It’s a more open platform and in some ways the interface is better (but as with most of fediverse tools it requires a wee tiny bit of learning to undo the programming of using proprietary webpages).
trashcroissant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I see this stated often but I switched to lemmy over a year ago and I’ve literally never had to use any sort of programming. The only thing that took me a minute was learning what’s up with separate instances, but even then, if people want to just stick with one it’s not the end of the world.
spacegoat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Want to politely point out that they didn’t mean computer programming. From context, they meant behavioral conditioning.
one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
They are moving very slowly, which is a good thing.
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It depends.
If we’re lucky and lemmy is more of less left to its own devices then we’ll probably get a few more users as Reddit keeps getting more and more awful.
If we’re not lucky then either Reddit or Meta will decide that lemmy needs to be somehow incorporated into their services wether we like it or not and we’ll be inundated with a deluge of the worst possible kinds of users. Spam bots, trolls, scammers, people trying to use it for their crappy MLM schemes etc.
Only time will tell!
bufalo1973@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Except in the Fediverse we can block instances. So one from Reddit or Meta is just a click away from being banned.
Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The Facebook population won’t, but all the cool people who made 2014esque Reddit good will or already has. Lemmy will never be the front page of the internet.
Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Meatwagon is right. The content is where the creators are, and they’ve all left Reddit; myself included.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I think more of them will just quit using reddit and not come here either.
When you want to sign up for lemmy, there are questions and questions are friction. That feels easy for us because obviously we did it, we picked an instance, we got our approvals, we’re here, but I’ve seen it firsthand trying to get people to use lemmy and for a lot of types of people that you would want for establishing more variety in communities, that initial friction is more than enough to drive them away.
Reddit doesn’t even make you pick a username, they’ve gone almost as far as you could with making account creation frictionless. If we want to stay in our echo chamber with everyone who thinks that’s not a big deal then someone else who solves that friction is probably going to eventually be the real reddit replacement. Seriously y’all, know it’s been awhile, but people were picking discord as an alternative to reddit to move to instead of lemmy during the apicalypse and they barely even compare.
bryndos@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Probably not materially faster than they leave - over the long run.
This first graph is mostly dominated by mastodon obviously we don't know who did or did not use reddit previously, but its a general pattern.
https://fediverse.observer/stats&months=96Similar pattern in monthly active users for lemmy specifically.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=96I don't know about newer versions like pieface or whatever - but since the total fedi population is fairly stable any specific software is probably mostly shuffling the same people around.
Though maybe the dataset doesn't crawl stats for newer ones, I don't really know - but it feels pretty stable population with inflows and outflows more or less matching.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
i think we need more users
![](feddit.org/…/c35f4588-08f2-4aeb-9157-7d624e97c793…
there i made a sticker. now i’ve gotta stick it somewhere
lautan@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Reddit actively removes posts mentioning lemmy. And google specifically pushes posts from reddit. It’s gonna be an uphill battle but slow and steady will win the race. the more valuable content that gets posted here the stronger lemmy gets. One thing hurting is a good native app for lemmy.
spacegoat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I hope so. My only issue so far is the lack of content
Astronut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
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kubok@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
I would like to see more niche communities here. That's tthe only reason I still visit reddit. I do not know whether more reddit users will find their way here, but I sure do hope that their niche communities will migrate with them.
spacegoat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
One strange thing I noticed is that there are a lot of communities created here, mirroring subreddit names or subjects, with zero content. I have a feeling that the overbearing mods on Reddit have already prepared to set up shop here when the tide turns.
garbagehead@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Given the out of control censorship and normative thought dogpiling that continually occurs over there, we can only hope more and more users leave reddit. It is now known as one of the most censored websites. Now combine that with all the paid posters and bot content, and it’s a recipe for little user reward.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Absolutely.
It’s a good thing and a bad.
Bad:
- I don’t really like the prevailing philosophy of redditors. If Redditors™ are around, i don’t like talking to them.
- a small nunber of people who get banned and come here were genuinely being terrible and won’t stop once they’re on lemmy. Those people usually aren’t drawn to smaller less public sites like this, however.
Good:
- People who get banned tend to be quite fun, and active users. A lot of people find themsekles banned from reddit essentially for ‘posting too much’, e.g they make a joke that a mod doesn’t like, temporary ban makes multiple accounts flag up, user gets banned on all of them.
- i think the vibe of the site you’re on governs how you behave a littke bit. People will fall into communicating with you in a way you’re comfortble with.
I have a headache and can’t make the lists longer, oops
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
More? Yes. All? Probably not. Time will tell but I think the internet will fragment again, at least to some degree. It wasn’t healthy to have it all consolidated around a few mega-sites.
IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I sure hope so, and yes it is.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Nah. Lemmy/fediverse will evolve and then that will become the thing. Tech literacy is going down, so something either has to drive it back up, or people are gonna need a lazier solution.
plutopos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I think it’ll remain niche, but it’ll slowly grow in popularity
olafurp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I actually don’t think they will, they’ll go for an alternative that has a big ass marketing budget and backed by a large corporation next.
plutopos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Like they did to Teamspeak for like two weeks when Discord leaked private IDs
wyrmkeeper@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I just joined. I was a lurker and effectively banned. Honestly wish I would have done it sooner!
Highlow@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I think a majority have already left and 80% of the content is just bots making posts about some shit posted earlier and copying the top comments.
It makes it look way more active than it is.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Foreign communities are pretty active. India tech trade subs and memes. It’s basically that and a portion of the OF complex that are still humans, just on principle of those being heinously active compared to everywhere else
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Not by a large amount probably by a bluesky like reddit at some point that some will move to instead unfortunately.
Undvik@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Yes, especially right now. Reddit is revoking API keys that made third party reddit apps work. And the reddit app sucks, switching to that is a lot of friction so the friction of switching to Lemmy will be smaller
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Yes, I think it will grow organically, and often in bursts when Reddit does something particularly publicly stupid or frustrating. We’ve seen this before, we’ll see it again. I don’t know if we’ll ever see a mass exodus. I don’t know if this will ever “replace” Reddit per se. Obviously it has for me, but on a whole, I think it will continue to be a niche community, and I’m fine with that. There are good people here, my kind of people, and I like it for what it is, not for what it could become. I really don’t need the tiktok-memelord-masses and the teenagers and the onlyfans trolls in my life. I think they’ll find their own places to congregate and feed off each other, and I don’t think it will ever be here, no matter how shitty reddit and tiktok and whatever other dumb apps they use become.
I don’t want the Fediverse to be massively exclusive but it doesn’t need to be massively inclusive either. Its nature means it can be inclusive, and I welcome any community who really feels like they belong here. But I’m realistic about who is actually going to feel included here, and I don’t think we need to go out of our way to “attract” more users, we just need to do enough that the people who want this sort of thing, can find it.
kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’d go back to the actually good reddit days, oh wait were there right now on lemmy
br3d@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I find the quality of discussion sadly lower than Reddit. Back therrthere you often got really thoughtful and interesting responses to posts, and indeed they were frequently more interesting than the posts themselves. Here, the quality is really poor, in general